New Predator film and Machete

[KR~!]

Robert Rodriguez wields 'Machete'
Director plans pair of pics
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Robert Rodriguez is ready to cut a wide swathe, and his plans include re-launching the "Predator" franchise for Fox and co-directing "Machete."

For the later, the filmmaker will create a feature out of the blade- wielding antihero who appeared in a mock trailer that was part of "Grindhouse."

Rodriguez is eyeing a June start date in Austin for "Machete," a film that is financed and produced by Overnight Productions, with Danny Trejo starring as the title character.

Machete is a Mexican ex-Federale with a gift for wielding a blade, who hides out as a day laborer, who is double-crossed by a corrupt state senator.

Rodriguez wrote the script and will direct the film with Ethan Maniquis, his longtime editor. The film is being produced by Rodriguez, Rick Schwartz of Overnight Productions and Aaron Kaufman.

Not immediately clear is whether Rodriguez and Overnight will find a way to use the irresistible marketing slogan that appeared in the "Grindhouse" trailer: "This time, they fucked with the wrong Mexican." It is the first non-studio movie that Rodriguez has directed since "El Mariachi."

For Fox, Rodriguez has scripted "Predators," a film that will bring back the dreadlock-sporting alien hunter who originated in the 1987 Arnold Schwarzenegger hit "Predator." While a sequel didn't become a hit, Fox kept the alien sharp by launching the "Alien Vs. Predator," a wildly profitable series that has racked up strong grosses and DVD sales, wit little or no gross out the door.

While Rodriguez juggles these projects, he's also directing his script "Nerveracker" for Dimension Films, with Bob Weinstein setting a 2010 release for the futuristic action thriller.

SOURCE: http://www.variety.com/VR1118002792.html

[fattyjoe37]

Very excited about both of these! It's about time we get another Predator and not a crappy Vs.

[Erick H.]

I look forward to both.

[Shlockjock81]

This sounds amazing. I'm crapping my pants for "Thanksgiving".

[Midnight Buddha]

Great news. Looking forward to both.

[Harry Warden]

Very much looking forward to a new Predator film that doesn't have the Predator pitted against Aliens. I love both, but the Predators have always been more fasinating to me.

[aoiookami]

Psyched for a new Predator film, with or without 'VS'. Though, they really need to take us to the Pred's homeworld, enough with the coming to earth stuff.

[satans-sadists]

Very much looking forward to a new Predator film that doesn't have the Predator pitted against Aliens. I love both, but the Predators have always been more fasinating to me.

Same here. Remove the Aliens from the equation and it's bound to be a better film. Rodriguez was going to direct Predator 3 back in the late 90's. I'm sure he could breathe new life into the series. Let's hope his movie happens.

Machete will be awesome too as long as Cheech Marin comes aboard to play Trejo's Reverend ally. :fire:

[Spit]

W00T! I'll be in line to see a new Pred film opening day, independent if it sucks or not.

The 'trailer' for Machete looked decent enough too. I'm excided for both these films.

[Katatonia]

I'm game for both!

[rhett]

Cool news, but yeah, give me Thanksgiving first!

[Vortex]

Robert Rodriguez has more misses than hits. These'll be rentals.

[Workshed]

So wait, is Rodriguez directing the new Predator movie or just producing it? In the AICN interview, the intro states he is the director (or co-director), but then he says:

5. What is coming up next for you as director and is there any chance that you'd take the reins on PREDATORS?
RR: The idea is that I'd produce PREDATORS here at Troublemaker Studios, so that I can feel free to walk to the PREDATORS soundstage, pick up a camera and co-shoot the coolest scenes.

Directing wise, next up will be NERVERACKER for the Weinstein Company.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40879

:eek2:

[Vortex]

It'd be better if he did not direct. He rarely makes anything worth watching. And Troublemaker Studios? Who comes up with this crap?

[Bobbywoodhogan]

This sounds amazing. I'm crapping my pants for "Thanksgiving".

What a trailer that was.

But it doesnt say hes making a Thanksgiving movie here?

Look forward to both of these.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Thanksgiving was Eli Roth's faux trailer, so even if it ever got made into a feature, everyone here would hate it anyway.:rolleyes:

Both of these sound great. AvP2 really should've been Predator 3, hopefully this time a new Predator flick will get made.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

Thanksgiving was Eli Roth's faux trailer, so even if it ever got made into a feature, everyone here would hate it anyway.:rolleyes:

Both of these sound great. AvP2 really should've been Predator 3, hopefully this time a new Predator flick will get made.

I know it was a trailer, it looked good. Just the way it was mentioned here sounded like he'd mentioned making it.

[Mattapooh]

My guess? Give this a few months and it'll fall apart.

As much as I respect Rodriguez for being so punk rock and doing everything himself, I think he should stay far, FAR away from a Predator movie. He's best suited for stuff like Planet Terror in which his sense of humor and over-the-top action scenes work well.

[Katatonia]

My guess? Give this a few months and it'll fall apart.

As much as I respect Rodriguez for being so punk rock and doing everything himself, I think he should stay far, FAR away from a Predator movie. He's best suited for stuff like Planet Terror in which his sense of humor and over-the-top action scenes work well.

I agree, and could think of better choices for a new Predator movie.

I've been a fan of his ever since I first saw El Mariachi when it first came out on video. I don't "love" all of his movies however. I don't think any are "bad" per se, but I actually own very few of his films.

[Harry Warden]

Psyched for a new Predator film, with or without 'VS'. Though, they really need to take us to the Pred's homeworld, enough with the coming to earth stuff.

That would be so cool! Some type of plot that intertwines characters on the Predators planet. I always liked how Predator 2 ended, when one of the Predator's throws the gun to Danny Glover and he can see an engraving dating back to the 1897, or something like that. They give you clues that the Predator's have been on earth many times before, but seeing their world would be awesome.

[spawningblue]

That would be so cool! Some type of plot that intertwines characters on the Predators planet. I always liked how Predator 2 ended, when one of the Predator's throws the gun to Danny Glover and he can see an engraving dating back to the 1897, or something like that. They give you clues that the Predator's have been on earth many times before, but seeing their world would be awesome.

Yeah I thought that gun was supposed to have belonged to Billy the Kid. I'm pretty sure if you look closely a lot of those trophies probably belonged to real famous people. I know there was def. an alien skull there.

[Chunkblower]

Rodriguez sucks, but at least he can't possibly fuck the franchise any more than Paul Anderson or the Strause brothers did. Danny Trejo is awesome, but I couldn't care less about Machete. Some actors just aren't headline material.

The pistol belonged to a pirate, BTW.

[Slackjaw83]

RR, while I dig his fliks, seems to take on too much sometimes. That said, he "starts" about 150 projects a years, and all but a handful ever make it to completion. How about Sin City 2 and 3 first?!?!?! They were announced YEARS ago, yet nothing's come of them yet.

[spawningblue]

The pistol belonged to a pirate, BTW.

Cool, yeah I just read about it. Thanks!

[maskull]

Though, they really need to take us to the Pred's homeworld, enough with the coming to earth stuff.

Finally the franchise featuring horror's favorite hunters is getting itself back on track and leaving the poorly written and lit world they have come to know all too well.

According to Production Weekly director Nimrod Antal is scheduled to begin filming Predators on September 28 at Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios in Austin, Texas.

The film is said to revolve around a group of people who find themselves stranded on the Predator's home world in which the shit hits the fan from both outside of their circle and within.

20th Century Fox is releasing the sci-fi action-adventure, written by Alex Litvak and Michael Finch, on July 7, 2010.

from Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/33041/predators-officially-rolling-september)

[springjack]

Holy fuck... Nimrod Antal??? Vacancy was kinda cool...

Please don?t be another Paul Anderson...
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[rhett]

And in similar news, Machete is still definitely underway, with even Lindsay Lohan in on the action for some tit teasing:

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/08/lindsay_lohan_has_fake_topless.php

[NaturesMistake]

I honestly don't consider either AVP film cannon for either franchise. As far as I'm concerned, Predator left off on a great note (even though AVPR was alright, I'm talking about P2). They better not fuck this up.

[baggio]

New news:


The upcoming Predator redux will be called Predators & will be out in July 2010.

Starring.............

Adrien Brody to play the lead. - Topher Grace also close to joining the cast.

[Grim]

New news:


The upcoming Predator redux will be called Predators & will be out in July 2010.

Starring.............

Adrien Brody to play the lead. - Topher Grace also close to joining the cast.

Yeah I read about this awhile ago. Brody is great and I think Grace was one of the higher points of Spider-Man 3, so I'm looking forward to this.

[MorallySound]

Leaked images from the Predators set: http://i.imgur.com/NwOV8.jpg

Looks like there are 3 Predators in this one so far!

[KR~!]

Leaked images from the Predators set: http://i.imgur.com/NwOV8.jpg

Looks like there are 3 Predators in this one so far!

Looks like it going to be more like the 1st one. Rodriguez may suck at telling stories but he knows how to do action and gore, so it should be good.

[bigdaddyhorse]

I like that the Predators look more like the one from the first film than the re-imagined ones from AVP, at least in the couple side shots of unmasked ones near the bottom.
Looking forward to this as Predator is still my favorite movie creature. I'm there for the shit, so I'll be there for the good when and if it comes back. I have faith in RR, not sure what's up with people saying he can't tell stories or make good movies. His kid flicks aside (and even those are somewhat entertaining), the dude makes great movies IMO. Sin City was the best comic adaption ever, From Dusk Till Dawn is forever in my top 5 favorites, I like Faculty even though most don't, etc.

[BloodMan]

*Rodriguez isn't directing this y'all...*

[MorallySound]

*Rodriguez isn't directing this y'all...*

Correct, he's only producing and he co-wrote the script. Nimród Antal (Kontroll, Vacancy, Amored) is directing.

[aoiookami]

Looking forward to this, as much as the AVP films are a guilty pleasure, I'm glad to see the Pred's going back to their leather/tribal wear, it fits them better than the heavy, armored look from the AVP movies. Cant wait for a pure Predator flick!

[KR~!]

Correct, he's only producing and he co-wrote the script. Nimród Antal (Kontroll, Vacancy, Amored) is directing.

His name is Antal Nimród.

[Hellbilly]

First Predators clips: http://www.predators-movie.com/

[Iron Jaiden]

Looks pretty awesome! I'll be in line opening night for sure.

[zompirejoe]

I am really looking forward to this. Hopefully it will be rated "R". It would suck to see a watered down Predator film.

[MorallySound]

I am really looking forward to this. Hopefully it will be rated "R". It would suck to see a watered down Predator film.

Rodriguez has confirmed they've gone "Hard R".

[Iron Jaiden]

Rodriguez has confirmed they've gone "Hard R".

Every bit of news I hear about this movie gets me a little more stoked on it. From casting to plot to who's behind the lense to who's making decisions about how Fox's money gets spent, all very promising.
A Predator film ABSOLUTELY needs to be "Rated R for scenes of extreme gore / violence and crude language" or it just ain't a Predator film.
And was that a goddamn handheld mini-gun (a la Old Painless) I saw in the sneak??? YES!
If they utilize the amazing Alan Silvestri score from the first film I'll be there for the midnight showing July 8th.

[Iron Jaiden]

So I asked Fox, do we even have the rights to be able to use that music? They [said], “Oh yeah, you can use his original score, we can give you the original charts if you want to re-chart them and write something using references of it, here’s the full thing.” So we’ll probably incorporate some of that. At the right time, because you don’t want to overuse it. - Robert Rodriguez

Well that answers that :)

[Buddusky]

Cool news, but yeah, give me Thanksgiving first!

I second that rhett, that would be one great movie!

[Grim]

It's pretty hard to fuck up a Predator movie, but Anderson somehow did it, so here's hoping this turns out great like the first two.

[Alexis6BE]

In this segment Alex talks about how he became attached to Predators 2010. He describes his relationship to the Predator franchise (including Predator, Predator 2, and the Alien V.S. Predator films). He also discusses Arnold Schwarzenegger's involvement with the franchise. Alex shares his experience of writing with Robert Rodriguez. He also talks about writing as a fan and for the fans. Check back soon for more from Alex Litvak.

http://www.sixthboroughscreenplay.com/index.php

[aoiookami]

Trailer is supposed launch today on the website. Nothing yet, hope they put it up soon..

[fceurich39]

trailer is up

it looks bad ass i think there is no way in hell the pg-13 rating is gonna happen here u go
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/19517

[Iron Jaiden]

trailer is up

it looks bad ass i think there is no way in hell the pg-13 rating is gonna happen here u go
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/19517

Looks awesome! :fire:

[Mutilated Prey]

I'm looking forward to this one for sure.

[aoiookami]

Looks good, gonna see it for sure. I kinda wished the trailer had shown more though, its like 90% of what we've already seen in the sneak-peek.

[spawningblue]

Yeah I am really surprised to see how good this movie looks. Definitely reminds me of the first and best film in the series. Can't wait!

[fattyjoe37]

Can't wait for this. Danny Trejo vs. Predators!

[Shlockjock81]

I am so pumped for this. It looks INCREDIBLE.

[2D4EVER]

Looks great. I have high hopes for this movie. I think it will bring back the Predator series from the brink of death after AvP and AvP2 sullied its name.

[indiephantom]

Good stuff, and Antal is a great director IMO.

[Shannafey]

I didn't realize this was coming out so quickly!!

[mclay18]

So I asked Fox, do we even have the rights to be able to use that music? They [said], “Oh yeah, you can use his original score, we can give you the original charts if you want to re-chart them and write something using references of it, here’s the full thing.” So we’ll probably incorporate some of that. At the right time, because you don’t want to overuse it. - Robert Rodriguez

Well that answers that :)

Not only that, but composer John Debney did post this on his Twitter: "Nothing compares to Alan's score for Predator. Period...Fans won't be dissapointed...."

[maskull]

Robert Rodriguez 'Machete' Set Sept. 3
By Nikki Finke | Friday April 16, 2010 @ 4:17pm PDT

That's Labor Day Weekend when it'll open wide. This is the pic that 20th Century Fox won after a heated Hollywood studio bidding war. Robert Rodriguez wrote and co-directed Machete with Ethan Maniquis, his longtime editor. He produces with Rick Schwartz, Aaron Kaufman, Iliana Nikolic and Elizabeth Avellan. Stars are Danny Trejo, Robert De Niro, Jessica Alba, Michelle Rodriguez and Lindsay Lohan.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/04/robert-rodriguez-machete-set-for-sept-3/

[HorrificCat]

Awesome new movies, Thanks for the previews! This place makes me happy:eek:

[indiephantom]

I posted this in Other Movies forum already, but here is the MACHETE trailer. Rodriguez is calling it a "bootleg" trailer for now--but you get the idea.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44943

[Spit]

I posted this in Other Movies forum already, but here is the MACHETE trailer. Rodriguez is calling it a "bootleg" trailer for now--but you get the idea.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44943

Holy Crap, I didn't realize there were so many big names attached to this project. I'm more stoked then ever to see this.

[KR~!]

Holy Crap, I didn't realize there were so many big names attached to this project. I'm more stoked then ever to see this.

LOL, for a film that started as a joke, it has blown up with all-star cast ;)

[bigdaddyhorse]

Wow, just fucking wow. I was happy enough this movie was just happening, but with that cast, this should be a masterpiece!

[fattyjoe37]

That is an amazing trailer! Liked it even more than the one for Predators.

[BloodMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X92Cv3T9s7o

spine ripping in this trailer!!!!

[Iron Jaiden]

So we went to midnight screening of Predators last night and all I'm gonna say is bleh. So much potential, so disappointing. It had it's moments The spine ripping scene and the sword fight were kinda neat. but for the most part it was a mess.

*sigh*

On to the next bastardized franchise.

[Kolpitz]

So we went to midnight screening of Predators last night and all I'm gonna say is bleh. So much potential, so disappointing. It had it's moments The spine ripping scene and the sword fight were kinda neat. but for the most part it was a mess.

*sigh*

On to the next bastardized franchise.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with this. It was entertaining, for the most part, but ultimately disappointing. I kept hearing all this positive early buzz about how bad-ass the flick is and how it's the first worthy follow-up to the first Predator. However, I actually liked both Predator 2 and Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem better than this. Plus, the movie comes to a screeching, agonizing halt as soon as Laurence Fishburne is introduced into the film. Bad character, bad scenes. If you can see it cheap, it might be worth checking it out in theaters if you're bored. Otherwise, just wait for rental.

[meljon]

I thought Predators was going to suck real bad, but I really enjoyed the film. It was nothing very original, but it entertained me.

[BloodMan]

it was ok... nothing great though... i feel so jewed... there are 2 shots in the trailers that are not in the movie... well they are but they aren't... those who've seen it know what i mean... why do that? ehhh... had potential but its just so... flat...

[dave13]

i feel so jewed...

wow, thats PC :rolleyes:

[Mattapooh]

wow, thats PC :rolleyes:

Political correctness is the new fascism.

[indiephantom]

Count me as another unimpressed viewer. This is easily my least favorite film with Predator attached to it. Requiem I actually found to be pretty fun. There is far to little action in this one. Sure it's nice to build tension here and there, but I was falling asleep in certain scenes. I agree with Kolpitz Fishburne is a real drag...I felt the same way about his performance in The Matrix, which is just there for exposition. Here he is even more boring and the fim does literally stop moving for a long time

There was a guy who actually fell asleep sitting beside me. Can't say that I blame him at all.

The biggest letdown is that Rodriguez and Antal really didn't bring anything new except those predator dogs, that were very silly

The characters really don't make sense either. Lazy, lazy stuff. I won't be adding this one to the collection.

[bigdaddyhorse]

I enjoyed it, sure it plots holes and some stupid shit, but it also had some very cool shit.
Loved the "Blood Feud" aspect of it, if anyone has read the Predator comic series called "Blood Feud", one of the best IMO.

Hated Fishbourne's character, just stupid and pointless and cliche. Nothing irks me more than some badass who has no real problem surviving almost 2 fucking years among Predators hunting him, only to hook up with some new people and die instantly right after. Fucking done to death cliche that is stupid and insulting.

Those trailer shots must be just that, as there's no way the shot of Brody covered in crosshairs could be in this. There were at least 15 on him in the trailer, but only 4 predators in the whole film.

Did like the nods to the first Predator, and Fishbourne's introduction was the best part of his character. But how did he use the cloak? Those are in the wristband and the netting/armor of the Predator outfit, just having a helmet will not allow for cloaking. He did sound exactly like Bill Duke from the first film though, same lines and everything. I dug that bit.

[Iron Jaiden]

Political correctness is the new fascism.

Antisemitism kinda goes beyond being "politically correct" man.
Bigotry is always fuckin lame and should be called out and corrected, dig?

[X-human]

Antisemitism kinda goes beyond being "politically correct" man.
Bigotry is always fuckin lame and should be called out and corrected, dig?

:gay:

I thought the new Predator WAS all Rodriquez, so I thought it had a chance. Only just the other day did I learn he didn't direct, so fuck that shit.

[Iron Jaiden]

:gay:

Haha. Did we just slip into 1950's Kentucky while I was sleeping?
Some of you hillbillies still call things you don't like "gay" and say you got "jewed" when you feel shortchanged?
I've said a few times that I hope some of you yokels don't vote but I take that back. Vote all you want but please just make sure you're using birth control... like ALWAYS using birth control. :glasses:

[Zombie Dude]

Those trailer shots must be just that, as there's no way the shot of Brody covered in crosshairs could be in this. There were at least 15 on him in the trailer, but only 4 predators in the whole film.


You still feel ripped when something you've seen in a trailer doesn't make it in the film at all. Especially when it's such a big moment in the trailer.

[Zombie Dude]

Here's another bit that wasn't in it:

http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/8/7/10/springwoodslasher/f_xigl7m_0d250ce.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)

Also there's a scene at the beginning of the international trailer where one of the characters is running and then gets spear tackled but an invisible Predator which I don't remember being in the film:
http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/8/7/10/springwoodslasher/f_jhs5sm_155c8a7.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)
http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/8/7/10/springwoodslasher/f_13epohjm_4f7bbe1.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)

[Mattapooh]

Haha. Did we just slip into 1950's Kentucky while I was sleeping?
Some of you hillbillies still call things you don't like "gay" and say you got "jewed" when you feel shortchanged?
I've said a few times that I hope some of you yokels don't vote but I take that back. Vote all you want but please just make sure you're using birth control... like ALWAYS using birth control. :glasses:

Okay, so you think everyone that doesn't think like you is wrong and you can say things like "I hope some of you yokels don't vote" and make eugenics jokes, but WE'RE the weird ones? You're actually going out of your way to be offended on behalf of other people, that's just about the douchiest douche that ever douched. Some of us are smart enough to realize that sounds we make with our mouths and/or letter combinations we type don't have to be completely eliminated just because some people can't quite figure out context and take things a little too seriously.

This silly horseshit is the reason we can't get a copy of "Boss Nigger", you know.

In other news, this Predator news bums me the frig out.

[mcchrist]

Haha. Did we just slip into 1950's Kentucky while I was sleeping?
Some of you hillbillies still call things you don't like "gay" and say you got "jewed" when you feel shortchanged?
I've said a few times that I hope some of you yokels don't vote but I take that back. Vote all you want but please just make sure you're using birth control... like ALWAYS using birth control. :glasses:

:gay:

[Myron Breck]

This silly horseshit is the reason we can't get a copy of "Boss Nigger", you know.

THANK YOU!!!

Well, only if you want the real title on the box. I will die an old man before I get my hands on the first 2 movies in the series. :fucked:

[dave13]

This silly horseshit is the reason we can't get a copy of "Boss Nigger", you know.

man, i've never heard of this one before, but the wikipedia summary and poster make it look awesome! "white man's town...black man's law!"

[maybrick]

Antisemitism kinda goes beyond being "politically correct" man.
Bigotry is always fuckin lame and should be called out and corrected, dig?

Saying "jewed" does kind of make me sit up and take notice, but really, saying "gypped" in the same context isn't any better but I say that all of the time. If there's any class of people more prejudiced against than Jews it's probably Gypsies.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Saying "jewed" does kind of make me sit up and take notice, but really, saying "gypped" in the same context isn't any better but I say that all of the time. If there's any class of people more prejudiced against than Jews it's probably Gypsies.

Dang, I always thought gyp was spelled jip or gip, and not a derogitory term towards gypsies. Learn something everyday, but it kinda sucks I'm more racist than I thought.:eek: But technically I am Jewish, so make of that what you will.

That was mighty white of you to share the info (ducks).:lol:

[maybrick]

Dang, I always thought gyp was spelled jip or gip, and not a derogitory term towards gypsies. Learn something everyday, but it kinda sucks I'm more racist than I thought.:eek: But technically I am Jewish, so make of that what you will.

That was mighty white of you to share the info (ducks).:lol:

Please, bigdaddy. I prefer the term "cracker" or "honky".

When my Playstation burns out, can I say that I've been japped? How about nipped?

Gypped is usually spelled jipped, but the root is taken from the belief that gypsies are all thieves.

[dave13]

if someone inadvertently makes a semi-racist comment, then feels guilty about it, can we say they got "whited"?

[Iron Jaiden]

if someone inadvertently makes a semi-racist comment, then feels guilty about it, can we say they got "whited"?

:lol:

[Iron Jaiden]

Okay, so you think everyone that doesn't think like you is wrong and you can say things like "I hope some of you yokels don't vote" and make eugenics jokes, but WE'RE the weird ones? You're actually going out of your way to be offended on behalf of other people, that's just about the douchiest douche that ever douched. Some of us are smart enough to realize that sounds we make with our mouths and/or letter combinations we type don't have to be completely eliminated just because some people can't quite figure out context and take things a little too seriously.

This silly horseshit is the reason we can't get a copy of "Boss Nigger", you know.

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[X-human]

Some of you hillbillies still call things you don't like "gay" and say you got "jewed" when you feel shortchanged?

I object to the term hillbilly. I can be a bigot without being an inbred hick. Like maybrick I prefer "cracker" or "honky," although I find "white devil" acceptable within the proper context.

Please try to keep my feelings and spiritual beliefs in mind when you voice your own personal prejudices you fudge packing dyke.

[Iron Jaiden]

I object to the term hillbilly. I can be a bigot without being an inbred hick. Like maybrick I prefer "cracker" or "honky," although I find "white devil" acceptable within the proper context.

Please try to keep my feelings and spiritual beliefs in mind when you voice your own personal prejudices you fudge packing dyke.

Fair play. Is "dumb bigoted bastard" considered appropriate these days or has it gone the way of "colored" and "boy"? :D

[Grim]

This silly horseshit is the reason we can't get a copy of "Boss Nigger", you know.

We've got Boss Nigger at my work, but it's just called The Boss.

[baggio]

THANK YOU!!!

Well, only if you want the real title on the box. I will die an old man before I get my hands on the first 2 movies in the series. :fucked:

What first 2 movies?

The Legend of Nigger Charley & The Soul of Nigger Charley

[baggio]

But back to the Predators movie.

One word review:

BORING!

[crikan]

So the new Predators film. Amazing! I am astonished that someone in Hollywood made a faithful and smart sequel to a great action property. Didn't think it was possible. It didn’t look like any corners were cut due to budget concerns. There were subtle nods to the original and plenty of gore. There wasn’t any head scratching additions or changes to what we know about the Predator beings. Home Frickin’ Run! It took all the self control I could muster not to leap out of my chair and cheer when Long Tall Sally started playing. I hope it makes a ton of money and let’s hope the Alien franchise gets treated this well.

[baggio]

I hope it makes a ton of money and let’s hope the Alien franchise gets treated this well.

You better hope so, because you got the two most anticipated movies coming out this week.


Funny quote by a reviewer:

"If you're one of those people who don't want to be annoyed by those irritating elements like plot, characterization, depth, common sense or logic, then "Predators" is the movie for you."

[MorallySound]

So the new Predators film. Amazing! I am astonished that someone in Hollywood made a faithful and smart sequel to a great action property. Didn't think it was possible. It didn’t look like any corners were cut due to budget concerns. There were subtle nods to the original and plenty of gore. There wasn’t any head scratching additions or changes to what we know about the Predator beings. Home Frickin’ Run! It took all the self control I could muster not to leap out of my chair and cheer when Long Tall Sally started playing. I hope it makes a ton of money and let’s hope the Alien franchise gets treated this well.

I wouldn't say "smart sequel" as the characters were all pretty one-dimensional with little to no explanation into who they were other then "top of their class killers". I absolutely hated Topher Grace and his character. And the plot was pretty one-directional as well. I can see where you're coming from with the nods to the original as sure, it had those little throwbacks, but the fact that they didn't expand on the Predator mythos is really what nailed the coffin shut for me. I'd at least hoped they would maybe give us some new info about the Predators, but zilch, other than they have hunting 'dogs' which I really didn't like.

Overall, it was pretty 'meh'. All it's got going for it is some decent popcorn entertainment.

[crikan]

I wouldn't say "smart sequel" as the characters were all pretty one-dimensional with little to no explanation into who they were other then "top of their class killers". I absolutely hated Topher Grace and his character. And the plot was pretty one-directional as well. I can see where you're coming from with the nods to the original as sure, it had those little throwbacks, but the fact that they didn't expand on the Predator mythos is really what nailed the coffin shut for me. I'd at least hoped they would maybe give us some new info about the Predators, but zilch, other than they have hunting 'dogs' which I really didn't like.

Overall, it was pretty 'meh'. All it's got going for it is some decent popcorn entertainment.

!!SPOILERS!!

No one should go into a Predator film looking for great depth. It's an action movie. IMO, it did plenty to add to the Predator mythos. They have a planet where they hunt the best predators from other planets to expand their tactics and abilities as hunters. We also learned there are at least two factions that are fighting each other and we noticed they have a different look and their gear is styled different. I really enjoyed the "sending the dogs" tactic they used which taught us that they will use hunting dogs. We got a great look at what is most likely a Predator home world. No disrespect, but were you looking for a 3 hour Lord the Rings film that began with 45minutes of Predators in the Shire? Are you looking for political intrigue in a Predator film? Personally I like a lot of mystery with my Aliens and Predators. That let's my imagination fill in the gaps.

As for it being smart. There were many sublte things. I'm not saying it was like The Shawshank Redemption, but for an action movie it had it's moments.
-the overall plot: With what we already know about the Predator, it's very faithful and smart to have them collecting humanity's best killers so they can learn from them.
-The moments where a human would notice a trap because it's a tactic that they have used or when we saw how the Predator's tactics have evolved since the 1987 encounter. Some examples would be the African spotting the Danny Trejo trap or the Predator using the heartbeat sensor to spot Brody covered in mud.
-The Topher Grace twist: About 30 minutes in I really started wondering why a doctor was in the group. At first I thought the Predators had learned that the group functioned better with a medic. But it started to bother me that he wasn't a field medic or military man. Well I got my answer late and was floored. I wasn't thrilled with his casting until that moment and then I was ecstatic. He was extremely creepy and convincing.
-there are more but if I type much more no one will read this post.

I disagree that Brody, the sniper, Fishburne and Topher Grace were one-dimensional. And many of the side characters were interesting. I loved the convict and they did a great job of humanizing the Russian.

Basically IMO, there is depth in this film if you are familiar with the franchise and care to pay enough attention to find it.

[Workshed]

Antisemitism kinda goes beyond being "politically correct" man.
Bigotry is always fuckin lame and should be called out and corrected, dig?

So, "lame" is OK to use when classifying something as negative? You realize people with disabilities have every right to take issue with that context as well. It feels terrible to say it unwittingly in front of someone who uses a cane. Learn from my mistakes. :glasses:

It's a slippery slope.

[crikan]

Predators hit theaters a few days ago and this is the thread for us to discuss our reactions. Can we wait until the film is out of theaters before we completely derail it with off-topic stuff like sensitivity training? Maybe the Lady Gaga thread would be a good place to continue the faux outrage many of you are feeling right now.

[Workshed]

Please don't ever associate anything I post with the Lady Gaga thread (offense intended to everyone who has ever posted in there, self included).

[Iron Jaiden]

So, "lame" is OK to use when classifying something as negative? You realize people with disabilities have every right to take issue with that context as well. It feels terrible to say it unwittingly in front of someone who uses a cane. Learn from my mistakes. :glasses:

It's a slippery slope.

Haha I don't care too much about derailing the thread for a second. I think most of us have already forgotten about the new Predator movie.

I will say you make a good point. The term "lame" used in a derogatory manor could very well offend someone with a disabled appendage.
Thing is the term also means "weak; inadequate or unsatisfactory" in according to it's dictionary definition whereas "jewed" is just plain old bigotry.
But yeah man to be honest I never even thought about "lame" and what that might mean to someone who actually is.
It's all about choices. I'll defend complete and utter free speech until my very last breath. I choose to reject the use of certain words I consider harmful and hateful, some folks choose not to, but I'll be damned if I ever want any control over what other people say or think. *shrug*

Back on topic: in my opinion Predator (1987) was the perfect action / sci-fi movie. It was very straight forward and treated the audience to a silly, but likeable cast of characters and one of the most intense physical showdowns in modern cinema.
Predators (2010) just felt like a muddled mess that tried way too hard to tip it's hat to the original film and rather than introduce a new cast of likeable hard asses it made sure that every character had no less than five cringe inducing pieces of dialog and half assed "reveals".
But hey, at least Inception comes out this weekend. I bet my right eyebrow that one turns out to be amazing. :)

[crikan]

it made sure that every character had no less than five cringe inducing pieces of dialog and half assed "reveals".


OK, I'm calling BS on that. If you are calling those reveals "half assed" you went into this film looking to be disappointed or your standards are too high for an action flick.

A lot of the complaints I'm reading sound like people that didn't want to enjoy the film to begin with. The 1987 Predator is an alltime great and it's foolish to make that great film the measuring stick for the sequel's success. The nostalgia factor is too much.

[fattyjoe37]

Saw Predators last night and liked it quite a bit. I thought it was leagues better than Predator 2 and the AVP movies. It wasn't perfect or as good as the original, but it's easily one of the better movies from this mediocre summer.

[Iron Jaiden]

OK, I'm calling BS on that. If you are calling those reveals "half assed" you went into this film looking to be disappointed or your standards are too high for an action flick.

A lot of the complaints I'm reading sound like people that didn't want to enjoy the film to begin with. The 1987 Predator is an alltime great and it's foolish to make that great film the measuring stick for the sequel's success. The nostalgia factor is too much.

Oh no dude I went into this one really wanting to love it. I tried. I really really tried. I just wanted an awesome straight forward "most dangerous game" movie staring dudes with guns and some predators. I did not want horrible dialog, incomprehensible plot holes, and odd character reveals of any sort.
Can you imagine how much Predator would've sucked if all of a sudden toward the end of the movie Dillon revealed that he was a serial killer and was gonna kill Anna???
Dude you don't gotta defend the film. You dug it, I can dig that. I'm sure I've loved some turds in my day too :D

[Myron Breck]

What first 2 movies?

The Legend of Nigger Charley & The Soul of Nigger Charley

Exactly...you miserable racist. :glasses:

[crikan]

Oh no dude I went into this one really wanting to love it. I tried. I really really tried. I just wanted an awesome straight forward "most dangerous game" movie staring dudes with guns and some predators. I did not want horrible dialog, incomprehensible plot holes, and odd character reveals of any sort.
Can you imagine how much Predator would've sucked if all of a sudden toward the end of the movie Dillon revealed that he was a serial killer and was gonna kill Anna???
Dude you don't gotta defend the film. You dug it, I can dig that. I'm sure I've loved some turds in my day too :D

I have enjoyed some "turds" in my day, and this ain't one of them. Predators' dialogue was no worse than any other action flick, and that includes the original (1987). I can certainly understand that some may not like the film because they didn't appreciate the cast or characters. That kind of thing is very subjective.

As for the reveals, I've read more opinions that liked them than didn't. You are still entitled to think the reveals sucked, but realize you are in the minority.

And after all this is a board for horror fans. So with my broad generalization brush I will say that it seems like horror fans can rarely like a mainstream film made after 1989. Bad dialogue is one the most common complaints. IMO that one gets used because it's difficult to dispute and the accuser doesn't need to back it up. It's a lazy and easy way to hate on a good film.

[mcchrist]

!!SPOILERS!!

No one should go into a Predator film looking for great depth. It's an action movie. IMO, it did plenty to add to the Predator mythos. They have a planet where they hunt the best predators from other planets to expand their tactics and abilities as hunters. We also learned there are at least two factions that are fighting each other and we noticed they have a different look and their gear is styled different. I really enjoyed the "sending the dogs" tactic they used which taught us that they will use hunting dogs. We got a great look at what is most likely a Predator home world. No disrespect, but were you looking for a 3 hour Lord the Rings film that began with 45minutes of Predators in the Shire? Are you looking for political intrigue in a Predator film? Personally I like a lot of mystery with my Aliens and Predators. That let's my imagination fill in the gaps.

As for it being smart. There were many sublte things. I'm not saying it was like The Shawshank Redemption, but for an action movie it had it's moments.
-the overall plot: With what we already know about the Predator, it's very faithful and smart to have them collecting humanity's best killers so they can learn from them.
-The moments where a human would notice a trap because it's a tactic that they have used or when we saw how the Predator's tactics have evolved since the 1987 encounter. Some examples would be the African spotting the Danny Trejo trap or the Predator using the heartbeat sensor to spot Brody covered in mud.
-The Topher Grace twist: About 30 minutes in I really started wondering why a doctor was in the group. At first I thought the Predators had learned that the group functioned better with a medic. But it started to bother me that he wasn't a field medic or military man. Well I got my answer late and was floored. I wasn't thrilled with his casting until that moment and then I was ecstatic. He was extremely creepy and convincing.
-there are more but if I type much more no one will read this post.

I disagree that Brody, the sniper, Fishburne and Topher Grace were one-dimensional. And many of the side characters were interesting. I loved the convict and they did a great job of humanizing the Russian.

Basically IMO, there is depth in this film if you are familiar with the franchise and care to pay enough attention to find it.

You really didn't see the Topher Grace twist until the end? Really?

This movie did nothing for me, in fact I found it stupid. One stupid shot after another. Stupid scenes like a Yakuza and a predator having a sword fight, which wasn't anything cool because it resembled something you'd see at a convention between two dorks who brought their home made costumes. Fishburne was stupid, Brody was stupid. The action was weak and stupid. Danny Trejo was cool, but only because he died too quick to be stupid

Frustrating film, makes me appreciate the AVP's more, and they're about as smart as a bag of hair.

[crikan]

You really didn't see the Topher Grace twist until the end? Really?

This movie did nothing for me, in fact I found it stupid. One stupid shot after another. Stupid scenes like a Yakuza and a predator having a sword fight, which wasn't anything cool because it resembled something you'd see at a convention between two dorks who brought their home made costumes. Fishburne was stupid, Brody was stupid. The action was weak and stupid. Danny Trejo was cool, but only because he died too quick to be stupid

Frustrating film, makes me appreciate the AVP's more, and they're about as smart as a bag of hair.

I didn’t see it coming because I didn’t expect that sort of thing in a Predator film. I mentioned earlier that it had crossed my mind a few times that his character didn’t fit and it bothered me. To be honest, if it wasn’t for the twist I would be ranting on this board about his character. I really enjoyed the reveal which made the lead up worth it.

I didn't like Fishburne either but, he didn't last 20 minutes.

I like Danny Trejo but he was my least favorite character and as you said he didn't last 20 minutes.

Some people just don’t like action films.

[aoiookami]

I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I'm not sure where I rank it among the others in the series. I almost felt as if there was barely any Predator screen time, even with what, 4, 5 of them in the movie? I think I enjoyed Predator 2 and Requiem so much because the title character got his much deserved screen time. Am I wrong in feeling this movie had the least amount of Predator screen time in the entire series? Even the first movie had a few solo scenes, with a bunch of lengthy fight scenes, it seemed this movie only gave fleeting glances, the Pred's would be on screen for a a couple seconds, then back to the humans, there was little to no scenes that focused solely on the Predators.. I would have liked to see more of the hunting/stalking process from the Predators side and not solely the humans. The movie is called Predators afterall...

I was also very disappointed they offed the "hero" Pred in what, 4 minutes? I would have enjoyed to see him get more screen time and be an actual character instead of a throwaway plot point.

Still I think it's a pretty solid entry to the series, but I really just want to see a Predator centered movie, enough of the humans already, take us to the Predator homeworld and show us their culture like in the comics, the hunting thing has been done 5 times now.

[Chunkblower]

It felt more like a polished fan tribute to the first film than an original story or continuation of the series; too many homages, and a slooooow build as the characters on screen take forever to learn what the audience already knows. Like every other predator movie, it squanders the opportunity to explore the predators and their culture which would be far more interesting than yet another cat and mouse game set in the jungle. Even if it were billed as a straight remake I still would have found it pretty lazy in conception and execution.

Entertaining as far as it goes, I guess, but nothing that hasn't been done before and better.

[rhett]

It felt more like a polished fan tribute to the first film than an original story or continuation of the series; too many homages, and a slooooow build as the characters on screen take forever to learn what the audience already knows. Like every other predator movie, it squanders the opportunity to explore the predators and their culture which would be far more interesting than yet another cat and mouse game set in the jungle. Even if it were billed as a straight remake I still would have found it pretty lazy in conception and execution.

Entertaining as far as it goes, I guess, but nothing that hasn't been done before and better.

+1.

Makes me respect the second film more because it was at least more than fan service. I think the formula works better with a single predator, since they're obviously much more powerful, equipped and probably intelligent than humans, so the idea that a bunch of average mercenaries could take them all out is stretching the concept too far. At least a guy like Arnold could physically hold his weight against these guys. But Adrien Brody? Really? Emaciated Holocaust victim? Yes. Arnold surrogate? No.

Plus, I always liked the cat and mouse idea, because the predator provides a level of intelligence that your typical slasher or alien cannot. In Predators you don't really see any of that intelligence, it's more just using the alien's technology for additional ways to provide jump scares (throwing a flare and having it hit the invisibility forcefield of the creature, for instance).

The Topher Grace character and the twist are just such wasted space. Who cares? The first film is brilliant because it establishes some likable characters but then makes the film all about the predator. Their reactions are to help build the mythos of the beast rather than provide an arc for a character that's just going to die off anyway. I don't care about Bubba's history, but when he fires the gatling gun frantically, blindly through the forest, you really get a sense of the kind of impact the creature's games are having on the men. Plus, the whole he isn't who he says he is twist is something the first Predator did away with with Carl Weathers at the end of the first act - not the pivotal finale. Blah blah blah.

Fun in spurts but mostly empty fan service that does nothing to build on the limited canon of the first two films.

[MorallySound]

Red-band trailer for Machete: http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14343587/machete/videos/machete_trl_trailer_red_band_72210.html

Looks like a gut-ripping bloody good time!

[Iron Jaiden]

Red-band trailer for Machete: http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14343587/machete/videos/machete_trl_trailer_red_band_72210.html

Looks like a gut-ripping bloody good time!

Haha ok I've already forgotten about Predators and I'm 100% stoked for Machete again. :fire:

[make believe]

Eh I know I'll watch Machete eventually but I can't say I'm all that excited for it. I don't care for most of the cast and there seems to be some cg blood effects in there which isn't helping any.

[shape22]

Add me to the thumbs down group for Predators. I thought that it was really hampered by the lack of a lead actor as charismatic as Arnold. Picture what Bruce Willis, Stallone, or even Jason Statham could have done with Brody's part. Brody bored me to death. It got off to a decent start. But Fishburne signaled the death knell. His segment brought the whole thing to a complete stop. And I don't think it ever recovered.

Machete looks like it's going to be a great time. I can't believe that The Expendables, Piranha 3D, and Machete are all arriving within 3 weeks of each other. That's the best run of guy movies in a short period that I can remember in a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. I hardly ever venture out to the movies any more and I'll definitely be seeing all 3 of them.

I'll be shocked if I dislike any of them as much as Predators.

[baggio]

I hope it makes a ton of money and let’s hope the Alien franchise gets treated this well.

You better hope so, because you got the two most anticipated movies coming out this week.




I had that feeling. This Predators movie just faded away in a short 3 weeks.

[mcchrist]

I can't honestly say I am excited about Machete. I am not a fan of Rodriguez's brand of kitsch, it looks fun but just like his other films easy to lose its welcome with me.

[Harry Warden]

I finally saw Predators this past week and I have to give it a thumbs up. It was somewhat of rehash of the original, but I can honestly say I was never bored with the film. The film had a decent pace and the acting wasn't half bad either. I enjoyed Adrian Brody. He was much better than I ever dreamed he would be. I don't think it was nearly as good as the original, but I'd say it falls about midway on my like/dislike scale between other Predator and Alien Vs. Predator films.

[dave13]

after the absolute garbage that were the AVP movies, people bitch when we get something as good as THIS? seriously? As far as I'm concerned, this was the most respectful treatment the predator has received since the first film. And people complain about the lack of predator "characters" and screen time? How could developing the character of the predators make for a better movie? It might be academically interesting, but it would seriously demystify them. If we understand everything there is to know about the predator race, they'll become a particularly violent alien on star trek, not the monster in a horror/action series. I was really happy with the level of restraint shown by the filmmakers.

[aoiookami]

And people complain about the lack of predator "characters" and screen time? How could developing the character of the predators make for a better movie? It might be academically interesting, but it would seriously demystify them.

I disagree.
The best Predator stories to come out of the lore are those that had a big focus on the Predators themselves, their homeworld and culture. The comics explore this alot, and theres a reason they've been running since 1989... The original AVP series, Deadliest of the Species, etc had huge character focus on the Preds, and are probably the best Predator stories out there, far better than what we've seen in movies.

[dave13]

I disagree.
The best Predator stories to come out of the lore are those that had a big focus on the Predators themselves, their homeworld and culture. The comics explore this alot, and theres a reason they've been running since 1989... The original AVP series, Deadliest of the Species, etc had huge character focus on the Preds, and are probably the best Predator stories out there, far better than what we've seen in movies.

That may be true. I don't know, I've only seen the films. I guess we're looking for two different things. It sounds like you're interested in finding out as much about the predators as possible. For me, I'm only interested in the best possible film experience. I think it works best if we stay with the humans and share their perspective, leaving the predators as mysterious and threatening monsters in the dark.

[KamuiX]

Just watched Predators and I'm with the negative comments; in fact, the film has straight pissed me off. This thing was pitch-perfect 80s throwback action, complete with the music, the large cast of ethnically diverse, paper-thin characters, and chest-thumping bravado, and then comes the last 35 or so minutes. Somebody went incredibly overboard with ridiculousness here. The flick was going in such a great direction, a la the original, and then we get served up with Predator vs. Predator, killer Eric Forman, and a hilarious samurai duel complete with stock tall-grass that's blowing in the wind. Why oh why did they think ANY of that was a good idea? Such a bummer; I don't even think this can be fan-edited into anything worthwhile with how retarded the final act gets. Complete BLAH!

[Workshed]

But getting back to Machete, guys. Yeesh. I couldn't do it. No way should this film have lost me. I feel like I'm its audience. I love Grindhouse and loved the initial trailer and promise. I couldn't make it all the way through this. I don't even remember where I stopped it.