Devil - New M. Night Shyamalan production [Archive]

MorallySound

07-14-2010, 04:43 PM

Isn't Shyamalan producing this? The plot sounds interesting enough for me to want to check it out, although it does sound like something more suited for a short than a feature.

And after watching the trailer, I can't help but think this is the kind of film that goes nowhere fast ... We'll see. I'll wait for some word of mouth before I see it.

Correct, he's producing and he came up with the story idea, but that's all. Drew and John Erick Doddle are directing. It's their first directing job, but they do have some horror background as they wrote the [REC] remake Quarantine and The Poughkeepsie Tapes.

I actually think this one looks interesting and could have potential.

dave13

07-14-2010, 05:12 PM

id prefer a possessed elevator in its own right, like in The Lift

aoiookami

07-14-2010, 05:32 PM

I can't seem to get excited about anything with Shymalan's name attaced, it's the kiss of death for me.

Workshed

07-14-2010, 06:33 PM

Help! We've run out of titles!

make believe

07-16-2010, 04:40 AM

Isn't Shyamalan producing
And after watching the trailer, I can't help but think this is the kind of film that goes nowhere fast ..

So then it's no different than any of his other films?

Actually I liked the Village even though many people seem to hate it.

dave13

07-16-2010, 02:49 PM

Actually I liked the Village even though many people seem to hate it.

that was the movie that broke shyamalan for me. it was a big wet fuck-you in the face to horror fans everywhere. i have no doubt that Devil will end up the same. much like the village, im guessing the "haunted" elevator is, in reality, only the work of stupid hippies in disguise.

Anaestheus

07-16-2010, 06:53 PM

While I will admit to truly hating Shyamalan at this point. (The Village was the turning point for me as well) I have to admit that I think this does look pretty cool. The fact that he's not directing it makes it even more appealing.

dave13

07-16-2010, 07:04 PM

The fact that he's not directing it makes it even more appealing.

if the movie ends up ok, this will be exactly the reason why. my expectations are zero, but i'm willing to have that changed by positive reviews.

vampyr789

07-20-2010, 09:59 PM

To those who saw Inception, I take it yall saw this trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new film (well he's producing) Devil.
I thought it looked pretty odd and when M. Night's name flashed across the screen, My friend turned to me and said "I wonder what the twist ending is...?"
I've read that a lot theatre audiences gave out a collective groan when his name came on screen, now my theatre didn't do that, but did yours?

It looks pretty strange to me and I didn't know what to think.
What did yall think?

Workshed

07-20-2010, 10:14 PM

Vampyr, there will come a day when you use the search function on this site (http://horrordigital.com/vb3forum/showthread.php?t=41074&highlight=devil), and on that day, there will be much rejoicing.

vampyr789

07-21-2010, 01:18 AM

:|

Okay.
sorry.

Shannafey

07-21-2010, 01:23 AM

Great trailer, but his track record has been very bad!!

indiephantom

09-18-2010, 07:04 AM

This had the stink of Shyamalan all over it, while the director is the guy that made Quarantine. Tak Fujimoto is the DP and I'm starting to think that those dead-on nearly fourth wall-breaking close-ups in The Silence of the Lambs were his idea and not Demme's I did enjoy parts, but then we get the signature lame "twist", which is not surprising or clever.

There's actually an odd moment where a character is referred to as a "twist", meaning someone who tries to cause confusion and throw people's relationships off by lying behind their backs. I'm not sure if this was self-referential or not.

Jeremy

09-18-2010, 07:12 AM

Hellbilly

09-18-2010, 07:21 AM

*bumps*

17thJuggalo

09-18-2010, 11:28 AM

PG-13.... I'll pass.

If there was a Devil on the elevator with me, I think at least a "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THERE'S A GOD DAMN DEVIL IS THIS FUCKING ELEVATOR" would be in order. :lol:

Steel76

09-18-2010, 11:40 AM

People give Uwe Boll a hard time, but to me Shymalan is the ultimate in crap film making. Shymalan should be put on an small deserted island together with Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer and then drop the nukes on it.

Criswell

09-18-2010, 01:19 PM

Yeah the bloke has turned out to be a real one hit wonder.

Ash28M

09-18-2010, 01:35 PM

For some reason I thought this was directed by Shyamalanadingdong. Instead it's the director of Quarantine and The Poughkeepsie Tapes. Now I actually want to see it.

SaxCatz

09-18-2010, 02:45 PM

Yeah the bloke has turned out to be a real one hit wonder.

One hit?
Try three... The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, & Signs are all great films.
Beyond that, yeah... he's fallen flat on his face.

killit

09-18-2010, 03:22 PM

One hit?
Try three... The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, & Signs are all great films.
Beyond that, yeah... he's fallen flat on his face.

Thought the village was pretty awesome too

X-human

09-18-2010, 03:57 PM

"Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking devils on this motherfucking elevator!"

The whole premise is dumb because The Devil is hardly going to waste his time being stuck in an elevator to torture half a dozen people. It reminds me of an excellent book Good Omens where a more modern thinking demon relents on how out of step most other demons are who waste their time possessing single people meanwhile he's out causing oil shortages or regional power failures. Sure it was something worth doing 3,000 years ago but in today's world possessions and single event accidents are an impractical way to corrupt as many souls as possible.

So even the plot slug is a fail in my book. But are we ever going to get that Bruce Campbell / Tiffany Amber-Thiessen trapped in an elevator with vampire bats flix? Rodriquez made Machete, let's go back and make that too!

Drama Queen Die

09-18-2010, 04:11 PM

Fistfuck

09-18-2010, 04:18 PM

Maybe it will end with shamalan flying a plane into the building. Sorry, I couldn't resist being that guy.

Something tells me if you had given it a modicum of effort, or had a shred of integrity, you could have resisted being that guy.

Besides, Shyamalan was born in India, you fuck.

X-human

09-18-2010, 04:24 PM

There's actually an odd moment where a character is referred to as a "twist", meaning someone who tries to cause confusion and throw people's relationships off by lying behind their backs. I'm not sure if this was self-referential or not.

Coming from a man who made The Lady in the Water where a writer's stories save the day, which he then cast as himself, I wouldn't put it past him.

I went back and watched Sixth Sense not too long ago and what I once found mediocre I now find simply bad all around. I'd almost rather not go back to see Unbreakable simply because I last thought of it as a good movie. But Signs put a quick death to any faith I had with him. I thought that was terrible from the outset.

Unless I hear a deluge of excellent reviews I'll be passing on this. I've got a Rifftrax of The Happening to catch up on. :D

KR~!

09-18-2010, 05:02 PM

One hit?
Try three... The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, & Signs are all great films.
Beyond that, yeah... he's fallen flat on his face.

I agree 100% all three are really good flicks, IMHO. They also got great reviews. However everything since Signs has been brutally unwatchable, and have all gotten bad reviews.

Steel76

09-18-2010, 06:51 PM

His new movie "Last Airbender" seems to be another turd on the list with it´s CGI overload nonsense.

17thJuggalo

09-18-2010, 07:51 PM

Besides, Shyamalan was born in Indian, you fuck.

But he's brown so in America that's OMFG TURRIST territory. :nervous:

Mutilated Prey

09-18-2010, 08:26 PM

Thought the village was pretty awesome too

That flick was terrible. Had such potential and then was the let down of the year.

meljon

09-18-2010, 10:00 PM

I liked this movie. I'm mexican-american and was raised catholic so the story really creeped me out. It fits everything I've learned about the devil and the games he loves to play with people. I know it was written earlier that the premise seems dumb because the devil wouldn't waste his time with just a couple people because he wants the whole world. I believe he is trying for the whole world but doing something like this is just fun for him. I guess it's kind of like when poeple take a vacation an go fishing.

MacReady

09-18-2010, 10:22 PM

That flick was terrible. Had such potential and then was the let down of the year.

I feel your pain, but I wouldnt say the Village was terrible. The ending was a bit low impact, but overall its a pretty good movie.

Mutilated Prey

09-18-2010, 10:33 PM

I feel your pain, but I wouldnt say the Village was terrible. The ending was a bit low impact, but overall its a pretty good movie.

OK, terrible is harsh, but that's exactly what made it bad. You sit through a movie where nothing really is happening to begin with and the one kind of ending you think you can bank on to save some face is a farce - lame! Kinda played out like an after school special. But hey, I've seen much much worse :)

buck135

09-19-2010, 01:19 AM

That flick was terrible. Had such potential and then was the let down of the year.

I agree. The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable were so good, that expectations were very high for each film. The comparisons to Hitchcock didn't do M. Night any favors. I didn't care for Signs or The Village. After The Happening, I don't think I'll give him another chance. That was the worst film of the decade.

killit

09-19-2010, 01:37 AM

See I LOVED signs and the village, I honestly thought that was one hell of a twist. But I fucking hated unbreakable, like way more than the happening and I hated the happening

Spit

09-19-2010, 02:17 AM

Wow...a movie called 'Devil' came out yesterday and not one of us horror freaks has gone out to see it and report back? Thats a real testament to the general consensus on M. Nights current work.

Spit

09-19-2010, 04:38 AM

Maybe it will end with shamalan flying a plane into the building. Sorry, I couldn't resist being that guy.

Don't listen to Mr.Fuck. I thought it was a good quip.

Anthropophagus

09-19-2010, 05:46 AM

I will take an original idea over a remake any day. Great title "Devil." If it sucks I hope he fills it with nudity at least. Maybe it will end with shamalan flying a plane into the building. Sorry, I couldn't resist being that guy.

Typical ignorant remark and the reason a majority of the world has come to view the US as an inbred, hick infested cesspool. Nice too that you'd bring this up on the anniversary month of September 11th-very classy.
Sorry, but if you want to indulge in stereotypes be prepared to have it dealt back to you, and furthermore as another poster has mentioned he was born in India which has hardly been a major player in the international terror scene and which has also been a major adversary of Pakistan and much of fundamentalist Islam.
A little education goes a long way.

rxfiend

09-19-2010, 01:41 PM

My family and I went to see this movie yesterday and enjoyed it quite a bit. I've always liked Shyamalan's work, though The Happening (or whatever it was called) wasn't up to par with the rest of the films. The film seemed like it was shot for very few dollars, so it'll probably make a major profit in that aspect. Everyone bitches about remakes, and this is an ORIGINAL movie, so go out and support it!! As for the PG13 rating, to be quite honest, I don't think this movie really needs a higher rating.

Franco

09-19-2010, 03:58 PM

One hit?
Try three... The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, & Signs are all great films.

Totally agree.

Saint

09-19-2010, 04:44 PM

I've pretty much given up on M. Night. The Happening and The Last Airbender took away the last of my good will.

bigdaddyhorse

09-19-2010, 04:52 PM

After that pile of shit called Lady in the Water, Sham is lucky I'd even bother to see one his films again. Then I saw The Happening in the theater, and while I found it unintentionally hilarious, I swore off anything else this fucking guy does.

I'll check the blu out from the library, and even that is more than I feel I should. Dude may've had a little magic in him at the beginning, but he keeps getting worse and recently, never fails to disappoint.

bigdaddyhorse

09-19-2010, 04:57 PM

I read it more as "Sham is a terrorist, but a different kind, the kind who attacks us with horrible movies while we all hope he can make another good one, since he did make a couple/few good ones".
Now he's holding us all hostage, but he forgot to tie us down. Anyone not want to be in the building when he crashes into it? Just get up and leave! I did.

X-human

09-19-2010, 06:53 PM

Typical ignorant remark and the reason a majority of the world has come to view the US as an inbred, hick infested cesspool. Nice too that you'd bring this up on the anniversary month of September 11th-very classy.
Sorry, but if you want to indulge in stereotypes be prepared to have it dealt back to you, and furthermore as another poster has mentioned he was born in India which has hardly been a major player in the international terror scene and which has also been a major adversary of Pakistan and much of fundamentalist Islam.
A little education goes a long way.

You're a racist if you don't think an Indian can crash an airplane just was well as any Muslim.

India has the world's third largest population of Muslims; not a major player? Al-Qaeda had orchestrated the recent shooting spree in Mumbai so go educate yourself while you're at it. There are constant religious riots between Muslims and Hindus in India, but that's not in your backyard so I guess it doesn't count. Are you so egotistical to think terrorists attacks on Western culture are all that matters?

Stop being so ignorant, Western centered and stereotypical. Realize that terrorism can affect anybody; especially those audience members forced to watch Shyamalan's latest shitfest worldwide.

Anthropophagus

09-19-2010, 08:13 PM

You're a racist if you don't think an Indian can crash an airplane just was well as any Muslim.

India has the world's third largest population of Muslims; not a major player? Al-Qaeda had orchestrated the recent shooting spree in Mumbai so go educate yourself while you're at it. There are constant religious riots between Muslims and Hindus in India, but that's not in your backyard so I guess it doesn't count. Are you so egotistical to think terrorists attacks on Western culture are all that matters?

Stop being so ignorant, Western centered and stereotypical. Realize that terrorism can affect anybody; especially those audience members forced to watch Shyamalan's latest shitfest worldwide.

Go educate yourself, asshole and if anyone's a racist it's you if you're insinuating that a dark skinned film director may be a potential terrorist by virtue of being from South Asia. The reference was to 9/11 which happened in North America, where was there any allusion to Hindu/Muslim conflict in that post? Point it out, fucking whiner. Try to inject some sense into your argument.
Fact: India is predominantly Hindu with a relatively small Muslim population. India, if anything, has been the target of Pakistani rooted Muslim fundamentalism for centuries before it even entered the Western world as we know it. Ever hear of Kashmir? It's more than a Led Zeppelin song, genius.
Shyamalan is Hindu, in case you did not know and oddly enough attended Roman Catholic school.
Name me a couple of significant Hindu terrorist attacks on Western shores? Then we'll talk.That's what the original insinuation was about wasn't it-9/11, Western culture. Even the Air India flight bombing over Lockerbie was the work of a Sikh minority, not Hindu. Learn the difference between Hindus and Muslims, and furthermore sure an Indian can perpetrate a terror attack just like an American, Timothy McVeigh anyone?
The fact that Hindu terrorism is nearly non-existent was apparently lost upon you. Sure there's conflict between Pakistan and India, similar to Northern Ireland and Britain, don't try to convince anyone that India is a hotbed for international terrorism synonymous with Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran-that's just bullshit and the epitome of ummmm..uneducated and ignorant.

Criswell

09-19-2010, 10:20 PM

One hit?
Try three... The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, & Signs are all great films.
Beyond that, yeah... he's fallen flat on his face.

mmmmmm Maybe 2 hits then, i did like Unbreakable, but Signs???? ugh!!!!:fire: forget that poie of crap. :cry: i still cry over the money i wasted that night.

SaxCatz

09-19-2010, 11:26 PM

mmmmmm Maybe 2 hits then, i did like Unbreakable, but Signs???? ugh!!!!:fire: forget that poie of crap. :cry: i still cry over the money i wasted that night.

Signs is a great film. If you can ignore some potential large gaps in logic (I go into any film of this nature with a willing suspension of disbelief) then this film provides great atmosphere, creepy imagery (the "handicam" reveal is legendary) & a reasonable sense of suspense with fantastic performances from talented actors. I think you will definitely find yourself in the minority...
In fact, almost everyone praised this film before its directors went on to ham-fist his next several films and it became popular to "hate on" Shyamalan.

Darkside

09-20-2010, 03:21 PM

Got a chance to catch this over the weekend and I too tried to go in with an open mind. It was not bad for the rating and really did seem to be marked for the teen crowd with it's quick jumps and humor. Does not make up for "The Last Airbender" but is going in the right direction for Sham.

baggio

09-20-2010, 03:51 PM

Maybe it will end with shamalan flying a plane into the building. Sorry, I couldn't resist being that guy.

But he's brown so in America that's OMFG TURRIST territory. :nervous:

Don't listen to Mr.Fuck. I thought it was a good quip.

You're a racist if you don't think an Indian can crash an airplane just was well as any Muslim.

India has the world's third largest population of Muslims; not a major player? Al-Qaeda had orchestrated the recent shooting spree in Mumbai so go educate yourself while you're at it. There are constant religious riots between Muslims and Hindus in India, but that's not in your backyard so I guess it doesn't count. Are you so egotistical to think terrorists attacks on Western culture are all that matters?

Stop being so ignorant, Western centered and stereotypical. Realize that terrorism can affect anybody; especially those audience members forced to watch Shyamalan's latest shitfest worldwide.

Shhhhhh!

Adults here are trying to have a movie discussion.

Darkside

09-20-2010, 04:59 PM

LMAO!

The rest of us ignore the elephant in the room, meanwhile Baggio is riding it like Slim Pickens on an atom bomb. Bravo sir!

Ash28M

09-20-2010, 05:09 PM

I saw this over the weekend and kind of liked it. Maybe that's the key, Shyamalan should produce and write films and leave the directing to someone else.

TheDreamMaster

09-20-2010, 05:32 PM

My theater definitely experienced something like the collective groan. We were all waiting for SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD to start when the trailer for DEVIL came on. For the first minute or so we were about as interested in the trailer as any audience could be, then Shymalan's name flashed across the screen and several peopled booed. Then a few people start laughing nervously, then the entire theater burst out laughing and booing. I've never seen anything quite like it.

That is exactly what happened to me too, all the way across the coast in South Carolina. Like I said in my review (http://www.oh-the-horror.com/page.php?id=689) (shameless plug):

Instead of eliciting buzz, his name now literally induces groans from audiences. That was the scene in my local theater when the trailer for Devil premiered; the audience was taken in by the apparently gripping premise and tension offered by the preview, only to be introduced to a deflating twist when they learned the film was “coming from the mind of M. Night Shyamalan.”

Drama Queen Die

09-20-2010, 05:44 PM

KGBRadioMoskow

09-20-2010, 09:24 PM

mmmmmm Maybe 2 hits then, i did like Unbreakable, but Signs???? ugh!!!!:fire: forget that poie of crap. :cry: i still cry over the money i wasted that night.

Agreed. Near garbage. The notable spooky moments might have suffered a lone burden of overly drawn out tragedy flashbacks that set the mood. But the attempt to recover from the heavy hammer of "see, tragedy caused him to lose faith, get it yet?" gets knocked out cold by some truly head spinning nonsense moments. Alien invaders that show up in mass, but then waste their time sneaking around rural farmhouses and get taken out by squirt guns and baseball bats. And that whole near comedic farce serves as the epiphany of restoration of faith.

All in all one long, tedious, and glaringly unsubtle establishment of character mood spaced with glaciar passed tension build (with teaser shocks serving as a defibrillator to the film's pacing cardiac arrests) finally leading to a "what the fuck?" resolution. Nothing distinguishes this film from the countless others that also spun too much film reel taking themselves way too seriously only to then toss at the camera a dead rat dressed in a clown suit just before rolling final credits.

Signs is a great film...
I think you will definitely find yourself in the minority...
In fact, almost everyone praised this film before its directors went on to ham-fist his next several films and it became popular to "hate on" Shyamalan.

Maybe I am in the minority. Though a 3 1/2 star Amazon rating, a 6.9 on IMDB, and 74% on Rotten Tomatoes is a long way from a general declaration of a "great film", so that "minority" is probably more sizeable than you allude. But several reviewers panned the film when it came out, and it killed the Shyamalan streak for me long before I even considered what he would work on next. Signs was the crack in the glass that lead to Shyamalan bashing, not a film that suffered from latter reputation damage.

meljon

09-20-2010, 10:06 PM

I'm glad to see every one that's actually posted about the movie "Devil" and not Shyamalan's older films, terrorists, or racism, were not completely let down by this film. Like I posted earlier, I thought this was a really good film. I'm curious to read about what the rest you guys that see it, think about it.

fattyjoe37

09-20-2010, 11:05 PM

Didn't care for Devil. In line with everything Shyamalan has directed since The Village. If it had stayed in the elevator the whole time it could've been a claustrophobic mystery, but instead it focuses on characters running around outside the devil elevator explaining everything that's happening. There were also some terrible lines such as "When the devil's around, toast lands jelly side down." Really? The devil can't do something cooler than ruin your toast?

Workshed

09-20-2010, 11:13 PM

There were also some terrible lines such as "When the devil's around, toast lands jelly side down." Really? The devil can't do something cooler than ruin your toast?

Seriously?! Wow, well, I guess if God can be sitting around watching football and granting touchdowns to wide receivers for certain affiliations over others, then I suppose the Devil can be watching your toast burn. They are omnipresent, after all.

aoiookami

09-21-2010, 01:42 AM

Maybe I am in the minority. .

No, I'm with you on that one as well. Signs was laughably bad, there were far too many overly convenient and logic-defying plot setups to be taken seriously. Ignoring the fact the entire invasion was a plot hole, the whole "Oh, don't leave glasses full of water ALLLLL over the house, honey, wink wink" and "Swing away" nonsense. Oi. One of the biggest facepalm moments in recent memory.

mclay18

09-21-2010, 01:44 AM

Didn't care for Devil. In line with everything Shyamalan has directed since The Village.

You guys need to get this straight -- Shyamalan did NOT direct Devil, he only wrote the premise and produced it. Brian Nelson (30 Days of Night, Hard Candy) wrote the screenplay, while the Dowdle Brothers (Quarantine) directed the film.

As for the film, it's decent. It's short, to the point, and a bit unsettling. The premise is a bit gimmicky, but it's an original idea nonetheless.

Angelman

09-21-2010, 01:47 AM

*opens door, looks into room, sees everyone fighting, quietly shuts door and walks out*

SaxCatz

09-21-2010, 02:36 AM

Maybe I am in the minority. Though a 3 1/2 star Amazon rating, a 6.9 on IMDB, and 74% on Rotten Tomatoes is a long way from a general declaration of a "great film", so that "minority" is probably more sizeable than you allude. But several reviewers panned the film when it came out, and it killed the Shyamalan streak for me long before I even considered what he would work on next. Signs was the crack in the glass that lead to Shyamalan bashing, not a film that suffered from latter reputation damage.
74% on RottenTomatoes is an exceptional score for a "genre" film and the IMDB score was MUCH higher prior to the release of other Shyamalan films. As a matter of fact, I remember that it hovered around 7.4 shortly after the release of the Village (when its downturn had already begun).
Cleary Signs is a victim of retro-active distaste just like Blair Witch Project. For BWP, everyone loved the film until it came to so saturate popular culture that it became the "hip" thing to hate on... and suddenly everyone who loved the film previously now panned it. For Signs, it wasn't distaste for the film itself but for its director and his later failures that led to the same subsequent re-envisioning. Earlier Shyamalan films that had found precious few detractors now found themselved in the midst of an "open season" as it became fashionable to trash everything Shyamalan had ever laid lens upon. As such, this is no more a realistic appraisal of this film's virtues then it is for BWP.

SaxCatz

09-21-2010, 02:40 AM

All in all one long, tedious, and glaringly unsubtle establishment of character mood spaced with glaciar passed tension build (with teaser shocks serving as a defibrillator to the film's pacing cardiac arrests) finally leading to a "what the fuck?" resolution. Nothing distinguishes this film from the countless others that also spun too much film reel taking themselves way too seriously only to then toss at the camera a dead rat dressed in a clown suit just before rolling final credits.

Sounds an awful lot like the description of a certain film that tosses a midget in a red rain slicker at the camera just before rolling the final credits...
But few of us here would dare criticize that masterpiece.

X-human

09-21-2010, 03:11 AM

Fact: India is predominantly Hindu with a relatively small Muslim population.

The fact that Hindu terrorism is nearly non-existent was apparently lost upon you.

There are 148 Million Muslims living in India right now, that's half the population of the United States. But apparently that's insignificant to your Western eyes because they're Muslims, they're Indians, and they're Eastern. You're only as significant as Anthropophagus sees you. The deaths of a thousand Muslims in a riot by Hindus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots) may be over looked by Westerners like you Anthropophagus because they weren't Westerners who died on 9/11, but not by me. Muslims and Hindus in religious wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India) are insignificant unless Anthropophagus deems it so.

Name me a couple of significant Hindu terrorist attacks on Western shores? Then we'll talk.

There we go again, apparently only Muslims are capable of terrorist actions and the only terrorist acts worth discussing are those that happen to Westerners. "Don't talk to me unless someone from the West dies by Muslims hands." Is that it? Typical closed minded Westerner thoughts. I find your arrogance, selfishness and lack of insight deeply offensive.

Tell me why is M. Night Shyamalan incapable of crashing an airplane into a building? If he can turn a movie into a bomb, why not an airplane into a bomb? What genetic defect of his rich, dynamic and proud heritage prevents him from crashing an airplane? I, sir, am of the full belief that M. Night is just as capable as any Muslim in being able to crash a plane. We'll go over to his house and watch him crash MS Flight Simulator right now but I doubt it would satisfy your unquenchable bile of hate speak.

Only a true bigot would think someone incapable of crashing a plane. Next you'll tell me Buddhists can't crash planes either. You make me sick.

Shhhhhh!

Adults here are trying to have a movie discussion.

Hey, I ended my post by bringing it back to the discussion. I am deeply insulted by your hurtful accusations that I am off topic. It's those Nazi racists who are keeping things off track. It's people like Anthropophagus who run death camps.

fattyjoe37

09-21-2010, 04:44 AM

You guys need to get this straight -- Shyamalan did NOT direct Devil, he only wrote the premise and produced it. Brian Nelson (30 Days of Night, Hard Candy) wrote the screenplay, while the Dowdle Brothers (Quarantine) directed the film.

I know Shyamalan didn't direct it. Even if he did, it would still be a bad movie. I know some people (myself included) were thinking this would be better than his recent directorial output since he didn't actually write or direct it, which is why I said it was as bad as everything he's done since The Village, to warn them.

KGBRadioMoskow

09-21-2010, 05:56 AM

Sounds an awful lot like the description of a certain film that tosses a midget in a red rain slicker at the camera just before rolling the final credits...

Don't Look Now succeeded regardless of the left field ending. And it was because of the mystery, the well executed build up - everything Signs bungled so ineptly.

But few of us here would dare criticize that masterpiece.

Hardly, Don't Look Now has taken a few lumps here, most especially for the WTF ending. I'm still uncertain whether the intent was a cheap shock on an otherwise decent film (which would be a true shame), or if the writer/director intended it to be a blatent and hideous destruction of the main character's absurdly wrong assumptions.

In any case, I personally only rated Don't Look Now as 2.5/4, grudgingly I might toss it a 3/4 on a good day. Amazon ratings about match that latter. Signs isn't even in the ballpark of that film, and doesn't deserved to be.

meljon

09-21-2010, 06:28 AM

I think the thing about the toast is more a cultural thing. My girlfriend, who is white, has never heard any of those types of sayings, but me being hispanic, I've heard them all. Stuff like"dont chew gum after dark because you're chewing dead people's bones" or "when the sun is shining and it's raining that means the devil is beating his wife". I thought it was a nice superstitious touch.

Hellbilly

09-21-2010, 06:47 AM

You guys need to get this straight -- Shyamalan did NOT direct Devil, he only wrote the premise and produced it. Brian Nelson (30 Days of Night, Hard Candy) wrote the screenplay, while the Dowdle Brothers (Quarantine) directed the film.

I was aware of that when I posted this thread. The original title read "Devil (2010)" and nothing else.
However, my thread got merged with a second thread that had the "New M. Night Shyamalan" title - exactly something I was trying to avoid when I made mine. No biggie though, as I'm sure most people know Shyamalan didn't actually direct Devil.

rhett

09-21-2010, 08:21 AM

17thJuggalo

09-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Thread's getting a little hot, but it's undeniably entertaining. Keep up the discussion, just refute points rather than defaming character. I don't want you guys flying planes into each other's houses...

Helly, when I merged the threads I went with the M. Night title, because, let's face it, that's what people have been talking about here. Plus, makes it easier to find in a search rather than just looking for "Devil". I'll clarify the title a bit more though, just cuz.

This is why I love this forum. Anywhere else and there would be deleted posts and thread locks everywhere.

Anyway, any time I think of M. Night Shyamalan, I think of the great episode It's Always Sunny did about getting a part in one of his movies. :lol:

KGBRadioMoskow

09-21-2010, 05:58 PM

Mok

09-21-2010, 06:17 PM

I liked Lady in the Water http://www.horrordvds.com/vb3forum/images/icons/icon11.gif

What?!? It was a good Sunday afternoon hangover movie.

Drama Queen Die

09-21-2010, 06:19 PM

If someone is going to fly a plane into my house it had better be Randy Rhoads. And Indian or not anyone could be a Muslim. Look at the president a good portion of the country believes that asshead is. Maybe if people quit trying to be so damn politically correct then realities could start being faced. If being a redneck hick means you have a job and your very own thought process than yeeeeeeeeeeeee haw.

Fistfuck

09-21-2010, 08:59 PM

Just came back from the film. Probably spoilers herein, so you are forewarned.

I was unengaged by Devil. What could have been a very good short film falls into the same trap the original Saw did, in that it did not have enough to sustain interest for an hour and a half and thus had to go outside the elevator/room. It then becomes somewhat of a hybrid thriller/disaster movie, akin to the Towering Inferno or Airport, with neither side being developed enough to be fully interesting. An earlier poster stated disbelief in the devil choosing an elevator of five people to wreak havoc upon, but the same could be said for Regan MacNeil and the Exorcist. In Da Verzhun Uv Neva Seen, Merrin explains that the devil's, or Pazuzu's, intent was to make a small group of people lose faith in humanity and in God. Keeping such in mind, five strangers trapped in an elevator could be a fairly potent conceit. Where these two films differ are in their execution. Exorcist is a (relatively) quiet film about a man who loses and regains his faith, whereas Devil is a noisy actioner of blunt-force, everybody-hurts melodrama - a device I have been tired of for some time and of which Night is among the most egregious abusers.

This is a short film that has been padded by many of the trappings we in the horror community have come to despise: CGI, loud setpieces, quick cutting, unfocused plotting, and an overall glossly sheen that detracts from the atmosphere that is so integral to making a good horror film.

And readers beware; the opening credits threatened this is part one of "The Night Chronicles."

Criswell

09-21-2010, 10:12 PM

74% on RottenTomatoes is an exceptional score for a "genre" film and the IMDB score was MUCH higher prior to the release of other Shyamalan films. As a matter of fact, I remember that it hovered around 7.4 shortly after the release of the Village (when its downturn had already begun).
Cleary Signs is a victim of retro-active distaste just like Blair Witch Project. For BWP, everyone loved the film until it came to so saturate popular culture that it became the "hip" thing to hate on... and suddenly everyone who loved the film previously now panned it. For Signs, it wasn't distaste for the film itself but for its director and his later failures that led to the same subsequent re-envisioning. Earlier Shyamalan films that had found precious few detractors now found themselved in the midst of an "open season" as it became fashionable to trash everything Shyamalan had ever laid lens upon. As such, this is no more a realistic appraisal of this film's virtues then it is for BWP.

No, I hated Blair Witch becasue it was derivitive, boring crap.

That people actually belived it was true - i had arguements at parties over this!!!!:rolleyes: - only made it worse.

Angelman

09-21-2010, 11:05 PM

No, I hated Blair Witch becasue it was derivitive, boring crap.

That people actually belived it was true - i had arguements at parties over this!!!!:rolleyes: - only made it worse.

So wait, it wasn't real?

Cydeous

09-21-2010, 11:59 PM

Don't Look Now succeeded regardless of the left field ending. And it was because of the mystery, the well executed build up - everything Signs bungled so ineptly.

Don't Look Now is a great film and the ending was alluded to so it wasn't completely out of left field. Signs is just a piece of crap. That stupid "the solution was found somewhere in the Middle East" when referring to water was outright hysterical. It doesn't get much more stupid than that.

As for Devil, I won't even give it a chance. Maybe I'm closed minded but I'd rather revisit Howling II... Your Sister Is a Werewolf.

rhett

09-22-2010, 02:55 AM

As for Devil, I won't even give it a chance. Maybe I'm closed minded but I'd rather revisit Howling II... Your Sister Is a Werewolf.
Everyone should want to revisit Howling II at all times.

SaxCatz

09-22-2010, 02:55 AM

No, I hated Blair Witch becasue it was derivitive, boring crap.
Blair Witch was derivitive? Derivitive of what? Crap maybe... but Blair Witch was innovative in its time. The Last Broadcast may have beat it to the market, but BWP went into production first. BWP was alot of things, bad & good... Derivative it was not.

Mok

09-22-2010, 04:01 PM

Everyone should want to revisit Howling II at all times.

*Like*

Steel76

09-22-2010, 06:43 PM

Blair Witch was derivitive? Derivitive of what? Crap maybe... but Blair Witch was innovative in its time. The Last Broadcast may have beat it to the market, but BWP went into production first. BWP was alot of things, bad & good... Derivative it was not.

Cannibal Holocaust did the whole "found camera footage" thing long before that.

Fistfuck

09-22-2010, 07:00 PM

Oh, God. I'm stuck in a time warp and it's 1999 again.

Hey guys, have you heard of this great new movie called The Matrix? I'm gonna go see it while playing the new Limp Bizkit album, Significant Other, in the car!

Criswell

09-22-2010, 10:15 PM

So wait, it wasn't real?

I am sure we all knew people who thought it was though. :lol:

I had one woman (over 28!!!) who swore blind that she read death notices about the actors, police docos etc.

Naturally i had to totally review her status as an employee. :eek:

KGBRadioMoskow

09-22-2010, 11:35 PM

I am sure we all knew people who thought it was though. :lol:

I had one woman (over 28!!!) who swore blind that she read death notices about the actors, police docos etc.

Nothing unique to Blair Witch. Several years back an Asian girlfriend of a friend of mine insisted that highly skilled martial artists could levitate, glow, and fly through the air just like in Shaw Brothers style wire-fu flicks. My friend knew she was nuts, but she was cute and could probably wire-fu in the bedroom so he put up with it.

Angelman

09-23-2010, 01:30 AM

I am sure we all knew people who thought it was though. :lol:

I had one woman (over 28!!!) who swore blind that she read death notices about the actors, police docos etc.

Naturally i had to totally review her status as an employee. :eek:

That probably came out of the Sundance screening where I seem to recall they pitched it to audiences as real. Urban legends die hard.

othervoice1

09-23-2010, 01:52 AM

And for the record I loved Blair Witch when it came out and I still love it today- great movie

Workshed

09-23-2010, 02:02 AM

I saw Blair Witch in Northern Ontario when it first released, and a girl I was with swore it was real because she saw a documentary on it. This doc was from the Sci-Fi Channel, we later determined. :lol: Great movie, though. I still dig it, too.

Fistfuck

09-23-2010, 03:22 AM

Are we really having this fucking discussion?

Workshed

09-23-2010, 05:36 AM

Are we really having this fucking discussion?

Dude, have you seen Blair Witch? Here's hoping they never make a sequel--same with The Matrix!

MrKateB

09-23-2010, 12:39 PM

Blair Witch?? Ummmmmm so, okay...

There were also some terrible lines such as "When the devil's around, toast lands jelly side down."

Here's some other tell tale "Signs" that prove the devil is around...

1. You have a special "happening" and have to go #2 in a Wal-Mart like store and there aren't any toiley covers left...

2. After you have had to carefully lay toilet paper over the toilet during the same episode as in the "Sign" above, and you do your business, you find that you used up all of the toilet paper except for maybe two pieces, and you try to make do but your finger pokes through while you're using it...

3. You're an upcoming director in Hollywood, finally given your big break and asked to direct a big budget studio flick but it's the latest M. Night Shamyalan project...

4. Your lead actress on same project above quits over the ludicrous twist ending, and the only one who is willing to come in to read for the lead is Betty Buckley, and she insists on doing it nude (even though the role doesn't call for it)...

5. You're still in scenario from the above two....Betty Buckley insists on doing numerous takes, and coyly tells you she sees you "eyeing her lemon drink" each and every time while straddling a stool...

6. You haven't been able to go to the movies in years, you get a final chance...The only movies playing are either starring Yakov Smirnoff, Sinbad, or Anne Murray (in her first starring role as "Joni"); there's a cartoon feature-- "Jem Vs. the Popples"; your other choice is a double feature of "The Happening" and "The Village"..

There are probably more...

Anaestheus

09-23-2010, 05:15 PM

I heard the Blair Witch piloted one of the planes that hit the Twin Towers.

Drama Queen Die

09-23-2010, 05:38 PM

For anyone who has not seen the Blair Witch here is a picture of it.
http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/10/nancy-pelosi.jpg

Mutilated Prey

03-12-2011, 03:39 PM

I just watched this last night and actually didn't think it was all that terrible. I thought it was entertaining for a Shyamalan movie compared to what else he has released as of late. I was kept intrigued throughout wondering who or what thr devil was, what was happening when the lights went out and there was a scene or two of some creepy imagery. I had super low expectations, so that's probably why I wasn't so turned off, and also was pleased it was only 75 minutes long - definitely didn't need to be any longer than that.