THE BOOGENS (LBX) Is Gonna Be On TCM! [Archive]

maybrick

01-02-2011, 04:44 AM

It mystifies me how The Boogens can legally be shown on television and yet nobody can figure out who owns the rights to release the damned thing onto dvd and blu-ray. That said, I downloaded the film via bittorrent months ago and so I hope the rights holders choke on the amount of money lost for holding the film hostage for so long. However, if they released it tomorrow I would gladly purchase a legit copy in a heartbeat.

chrismac87

01-02-2011, 06:18 AM

I believe a lot of the Republic Pictures catalog ended up split up between Paramount and Lionsgate - so it stands to reason one them owns the film now.

Just a question of which one. When it airs, see if there's a logo in the beginning, that's generally a good place to start - even if the company showing it only owns television rights, they have to know who owns distribution and that's a good lead to have - or you can do some digging online.

If Lionsgate owns it, I'm sure it's only a manner of time before it gets released - didn't they say last year they're releasing their entire catalog in the next three years? If it's Paramount however...might be a problem, unless they do a co-release a la MY BLOODY VALENTINE with LG.

Nailwraps

01-02-2011, 06:22 AM

I've read on the Fanedit Forums that the film was shot in full screen. Was that how it was shot or was it filmed with one of those cameras that shot it in widescreen and open-matted for home video/television?

CPT HOOK

01-02-2011, 08:19 AM

If I remember to do so, I will check the company logo on my DVR recording.

Erick H.

01-02-2011, 09:28 AM

I haven't seen this since the 90's,used to have a Video Search Of Miami VHS dupe of it.

Shawn Francis

01-02-2011, 03:59 PM

Shout! Factory is in the process of trying to wrestle this away from Paramount. Cliff Mac, Shout! Fcatory producer in charge of the Corman flicks, mentioned this to me on Home Theater Forum, on the Shout! Factory's 2011 DVD Line-Up thread.

Hope to God he succeeds.

Katatonia

01-02-2011, 04:22 PM

I own the old VHS, but I also transferred the 16x9 (Paramount) TV version to a DVD-R.

I've never compared the two versions side to side, but the framing looks very nice in widescreen. I'd really be surprised if the film was originally composed with 1.33 in mind.

I'd buy the DVD/Blu-ray in a heartbeat if/when it ever gets released again.

Shawn Francis

01-02-2011, 05:13 PM

I'm currently working on a review, and I still own the VHS version as well as a LBX bootleg I got from Cinema De Bizarrre, and, if I can recall, I did do a comparison once, of course, I'll have to do it again, just to make sure, but I believe there was a bit more picture visible on the sides of the LBX version.

baggio

01-02-2011, 05:23 PM

Glad its on TV at least.

Back when Monsters HD was around they played The Boogens in HD many times.

Did I mention that Monsters HD was the greatest channel ever, ever.

Saddest day when that channel got dismantled.

Horrorphilly

01-02-2011, 05:47 PM

Does your 16x9 cut have a "DARK" watermark on the upper right of the screen?

Thanks
SeanI own the old VHS, but I also transferred the 16x9 (Paramount) TV version to a DVD-R.

I've never compared the two versions side to side, but the framing looks very nice in widescreen. I'd really be surprised if the film was originally composed with 1.33 in mind.

I'd buy the DVD/Blu-ray in a heartbeat if/when it ever gets released again.

Anthropophagus

01-02-2011, 06:00 PM

Great film, very underrated and I also wish for a proper release on dvd. Would be cool if Shout! Factory snatched it up, they've done some outstanding releases.

CPT HOOK

01-02-2011, 07:23 PM

The TCM TV print does have the Paramount logo before it. Followed by a logo for Taft International Pictures.

I really hope Shout Factory can get the rights, that would be amazing!

Midnight Buddha

01-02-2011, 07:24 PM

I imported the video from amazon years ago, also downloaded a copy. This did get a pretty big general release. I remember it played my local cinema here in scotland at the time, i was too young to go see it though, just remember looking at the poster as i went to see other films. I also remember the movie trailer being shown on tv.

maybrick

01-02-2011, 08:28 PM

Midnight Buddha

01-02-2011, 10:28 PM

I was about 13. A school friends mum worked at the cinema and he told me bits about the film. ah the memories, Wishaw Classic Cinema. I was never out the place !! It`s a bar or something now :(

Shawn Francis

01-02-2011, 11:25 PM

Yeah, I was 13, too, when this hit in '82. Never saw it at the movies, caught it on cable, SPOTLIGHT (Pre-SHOWTIME), I think.

Midnight Buddha

01-03-2011, 12:06 AM

This photo was taken years after it closed, i think it was being used as an amusement arcade at the time. The last film i saw there would have been Gremlins in 84 i think.

Paff

01-03-2011, 01:23 AM

I've never seen this movie, so I'll try to catch it on TCM

Is there any possibility this film never hit it big due to the really dumb title? I look at Maybrick's clipping from the newspaper, and it almost looks like "The Boogers".

Anthropophagus

01-03-2011, 01:29 AM

This photo was taken years after it closed, i think it was being used as an amusement arcade at the time. The last film i saw there would have been Gremlins in 84 i think.

Damn, I miss those smaller intimate venues. The multiplexes don't have the same appeal at all.

Katatonia

01-03-2011, 01:30 AM

Does your 16x9 cut have a "DARK" watermark on the upper right of the screen?

Nope... mine actually doesn't have any watermarks on the screen during the movie.

KGBRadioMoskow

01-03-2011, 03:16 AM

Is there any possibility this film never hit it big due to the really dumb title?

The film wasn't all that great, IMO, so while the title might not have helped (didn't bother me), it certainly wasn't the primary reason for the film's lack of success.

Granted I was somewhat affected by reading the book first - the creatures originally being acid dripping, tentacle sprouting blobs was somewhat unoriginal but IMO much more creepy and effective than the "snapping turtles" in the movie. But the plot execution in the movie didn't rise to the same level either, with a few exceptions (like the quickly established back story in the opening credits). As killer critter films go, I've seen better, I've seen worse, my biggest issue with this one being how predictably ordinary an example of the genre this one was, when it so easily could have been much better.

Erick H.

01-03-2011, 07:23 AM

This photo was taken years after it closed, i think it was being used as an amusement arcade at the time. The last film i saw there would have been Gremlins in 84 i think.

It always saddens me when I see a theater closed down or bulldozed,especially the old locally owned single screeners.Feels like someone is strip mining my memories.As a kid one of my favorite venues was the old BEACH theater.It was a classic single screener with a balcony,built in 1929.As a child I saw GONE WITH THE WIND there for the first time at a reissue.Years later I saw many 80's favorites there,loved the place.This year the city tore it down,put in a pharmacy (right across the street from ANOTHER pharmacy !).Really sad to see an old movie palace gutted in the name of ''progress''.

7dizbust

01-03-2011, 04:41 PM

Ba-ba-ba booogens!

baggio

01-03-2011, 09:18 PM

Waiting for:

The Boogens 2 : Electric Boogaloo

Sorry but someone had to. :D

dave13

01-03-2011, 11:21 PM

Ba-ba-ba booogens!

sung like "cha-cha-cha-chia!" ?

Mutilated Prey

01-04-2011, 02:13 AM

Someone please remember to bump this thread when the time comes :)

chancetx

01-04-2011, 11:41 AM

The film wasn't all that great, IMO, so while the title might not have helped (didn't bother me), it certainly wasn't the primary reason for the film's lack of success.

Granted I was somewhat affected by reading the book first - the creatures originally being acid dripping, tentacle sprouting blobs was somewhat unoriginal but IMO much more creepy and effective than the "snapping turtles" in the movie. But the plot execution in the movie didn't rise to the same level either, with a few exceptions (like the quickly established back story in the opening credits). As killer critter films go, I've seen better, I've seen worse, my biggest issue with this one being how predictably ordinary an example of the genre this one was, when it so easily could have been much better.

That's funny - I also read the book/novelization years before I was able to see the movie and remember being a bit disappointed in the movie because I'd enjoyed the book so much. Same case with Dean Koontz's novelization of "The Funhouse."

Still, I'd gladly buy an official DVD if Shout Factory or someone else puts one out. And I still have "The Boogens" book around somewhere. Maybe I'll read it again before watching the movie.

Anthropophagus

01-04-2011, 02:33 PM

Watched this last night, I have a very decent VHS rip from the old Republic Pictures release. It's far from pristine but very watchable, still think it's a good B-movie that holds up well. It was much scarier prior to the beasts being revealed though, the creatures were sort of a letdown.

dave13

01-04-2011, 06:45 PM

just watched it a few weeks ago for the first time. Pretty decent little movie, I thought. Although the opening title montage sets expectations pretty high, which the rather modest film doesn't really deliver on.

Myron Breck

01-06-2011, 01:29 AM

A good friend of mine is the programmer for TCM Underground and said that they had to license it from Paramount, FYI. She's not sure if they own the actual home video rights or not.

Chet Desmond Jr

01-06-2011, 06:14 PM

A good friend of mine is the programmer for TCM Underground

Tell your friend I said she's a genius!

Myron Breck

01-07-2011, 03:22 AM

LOL. Will do, Chet. And yeah, she is.

dmeister

01-09-2011, 09:34 AM

The Boogens was such an awful movie.

MisterTwister

01-09-2011, 09:31 PM

Just watched this based on this very thread and was disappointed. The final 10 minutes are fun but the rest was fairly blah. The attacks by the creatures were too far from each other. I almost fell asleep waiting for another attack.

maybrick

01-09-2011, 10:02 PM

The Boogens was such an awful movie.

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that Tiger was one of the best trained dogs in the biz.

Anthropophagus

01-09-2011, 10:04 PM

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that Tiger was one of the best trained dogs in the biz.

I noticed that the first time I watched this film. Incredible dog.

Katatonia

01-10-2011, 08:29 AM

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that Tiger was one of the best trained dogs in the biz.

No kidding, that dog seriously needed to win an Oscar.

Zillamon51

01-10-2011, 04:13 PM

Someone please remember to bump this thread when the time comes :)

I believe you can have TCM email you when a title you're interested in is playing soon.

baggio

01-10-2011, 05:56 PM

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that Tiger was one of the best trained dogs in the biz.

I noticed that the first time I watched this film. Incredible dog.

No kidding, that dog seriously needed to win an Oscar.

Yep. Totally agree.

Post #45

http://www.horrordvds.com/vb3forum/showthread.php?t=13487&highlight=performance+animal&page=3

MisterTwister

01-11-2011, 12:15 AM

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that Tiger was one of the best trained dogs in the biz.

I can agree with this. Awesome dog.

Midnight Buddha

01-11-2011, 12:55 AM

I think the shortcomings of The Boogens are far outweighed by the atmosphere "and" the dog !. Ok the boogens at the end look like crap, but i guess if they hadn`t showed them at all we would all be moaning that they didn`t ! :)

ps.. also i think the title music showing those old miner photos fits perfectly :)

Mutilated Prey

01-11-2011, 02:21 AM

I believe you can have TCM email you when a title you're interested in is playing soon.

Nice. Gonna add it to my Outlook calendar too :)

That friggin' dog fuckin' up my shoes as soon as I leave. I'll fix that sunuva....oh, the boogens already took care of it :D

Dobby

01-12-2011, 06:45 PM

No kidding, that dog seriously needed to win an Oscar.

You shouldn't talk about yourself like that. :D

Katatonia

01-13-2011, 01:20 AM

You shouldn't talk about yourself like that. :D

Don't quit your day job Dobby. :D

Dobby

01-13-2011, 01:25 AM

Don't quit your day job Dobby. :D

I guess you don't have a bone for me? :(

Katatonia

01-13-2011, 01:29 AM

I guess you don't have a bone for me? :(

http://www.frugalbitsofwhitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Dog-and-Bone.jpg

Dobby

01-20-2011, 04:32 PM

http://www.frugalbitsofwhitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Dog-and-Bone.jpg

hahahahahahahahahahaha how adorable thank you!!!!!!! :lol:

Horrorphilly

01-24-2011, 12:49 AM

I just watched The Boogens and it was a cool flick.It has code reds name written all over it.

sean

Shawn Francis

01-24-2011, 01:00 AM

Shout! Factory is currently negotiating with Paramount to get it.

dave13

01-24-2011, 01:04 AM

oh yeah? nice. it seems to be more their style than code red's. its too....polished?...for code red.

Shawn Francis

01-24-2011, 01:08 AM

I talked to Cliff today, and he mentioned it's going real slow, and that I shouldn't expect anything in the near future. So, from that response, assuming they do actually get it, I'm thinking there won't be any real product sitting in my sweaty, impatient hands until the very end of 2011, or some time in 2012. Now, mind you, this is just me theorizing here.

maskull

01-26-2011, 02:48 AM

As long as we get this movie on DVD sometime I'll be very, very happy. Especially if someone like Shout! releases it.

Shawn Francis

01-26-2011, 02:54 AM

I spoke to Cliff today and he just reiterated that negotiations are going slow, and they may or may not get it. I don't what he means by "it's going slow." Slow in getting responses back from Paramount? Or, what?

On THE ARENA, he said he's got 30 film cans to go through before he knows if he's got the right print, or not.

Dobby

01-27-2011, 02:17 PM

Nope... mine actually doesn't have any watermarks on the screen during the movie.

Sorry but yes it does have watermarks. TCM.COM keeps popping up at the bottom right corner. I'd imagine this is the same exact widescreen print. So basically we already have this future showing.

Dog in the movie sure looks allot like mine. http://img005.lazygirls.info/people/anne_marie_martin/anne_marie_martin_the_boogens_MfqkWFd.thumb.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs185.snc1/6173_1201535806979_1486101396_548091_4189675_n.jpg

Shawn Francis

01-27-2011, 04:19 PM

I compared my full screen VHS to my widescreen bootleg and there is NO extra picture on the sides. All the widescreen does is crop it so you don't get any of that extra picture on the top and bottom.

Katatonia

01-27-2011, 05:25 PM

Sorry but yes it does have watermarks. TCM.COM keeps popping up at the bottom right corner. I'd imagine this is the same exact widescreen print. So basically we already have this future showing.

I should have said not a continuous watermark showing during the film. It shows up a few times during the movie, but it's not really annoying.

I compared my full screen VHS to my widescreen bootleg and there is NO extra picture on the sides. All the widescreen does is crop it so you don't get any of that extra picture on the top and bottom.

If the VHS is simply open-matte, it was probably just matted in theaters...which is likely the OAR.

Horrorphilly

01-27-2011, 10:17 PM

I just got a awesome widescreen copy from a spanish tv station called DARK, so there is a watermark on the top left hand screen.Its not distracting.The picture looks phenomenal.

sean

Erick H.

01-28-2011, 06:14 AM

Dog in the movie sure looks allot like mine. http://img005.lazygirls.info/people/anne_marie_martin/anne_marie_martin_the_boogens_MfqkWFd.thumb.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs185.snc1/6173_1201535806979_1486101396_548091_4189675_n.jpg

Cute dog,used to have one that looked a lot like that !

Mutilated Prey

03-15-2011, 08:07 PM

Only a few more days - get those DVR's ready :)

burieddeep

03-15-2011, 08:44 PM

Only a few more days - get those DVR's ready :)

Just scheduled the DVR recording online :)

Mutilated Prey

03-15-2011, 10:25 PM

Just scheduled the DVR recording online :)

Yeah, just learned how to do that from my BlackBerry recently - pretty cool.

Horrorphilly

03-16-2011, 01:15 AM

I dvdr'd it in HD even though I have a pretty clean print.It was a fun movie.

sean

FinalSora

03-16-2011, 07:24 AM

Oh yeah, got the dvr set! I love this flick!

Horrorphilly

03-19-2011, 12:57 PM

Watching The Boogens now in 720 and there is a speckle here and there but the print looks marvelous.We need this on BD, c'mon SHOUT FACTORY.Colors look good so does the detail.

sean

Mutilated Prey

03-19-2011, 04:02 PM

Yeah, watched it real time last night. It was broadcasted non-anamorphic which is kind of annoying, and at a lower bitrate so the dark scenes were somewhat blocky. However, like HorrorPhilly says, there's obviously a very nice print out there waiting for a professional release of somekind.

CrazyFatEthel

03-19-2011, 07:56 PM

Totally missed it :(

evildeadfan123

03-19-2011, 10:43 PM

Just watched it this morning for the first time. Actually, a pretty good movie, light on the gore, but if it comes out on DVD, I will buy it.

7dizbust

05-09-2011, 04:57 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fm56r7R94YA/SpiE2zQcG4I/AAAAAAAAAXc/jKFwET0JSqQ/s1600-h/MakeThumbImage.aspx+boogens.jpg

wago70

05-09-2011, 05:03 PM

That is THE BEST photo!

russweiss

05-11-2012, 05:40 PM

http://www.dvddrive-in.com/

Getting a blu release on August 7th.

Nailwraps

05-11-2012, 06:51 PM

We're aware of that. ;)

Mutilated Prey

05-11-2012, 06:59 PM

Guy, pay attention :D

Midnight Buddha

05-11-2012, 09:13 PM

Blu-ray better be region free!!!

Midnight Buddha

05-11-2012, 09:17 PM

Blu-ray.com states as region A. F*CK OFF!!!!!!

CPT HOOK

05-11-2012, 09:54 PM

Blu-ray.com states as region A. F*CK OFF!!!!!!

That's not how it works. It just means that regions B and C are currently untested. If it is region A only, it will say (locked) next to it.

Anthropophagus

05-11-2012, 10:32 PM

http://www.dvddrive-in.com/

Getting a blu release on August 7th.

I totally ignored the other thread for some reason, so thanks for this great news on an awesome horror film.
A shoe-in for our annual Halloween party this year, alongside Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil.

ronnie21

05-11-2012, 10:40 PM

i wasnt aware. wow,, hope the transfer is good. and hope thats the real artwork. artwok at least is original poster art... cant wait for reviews..

ronnie21

05-11-2012, 10:41 PM

Hey. amazon has it listed as full frame 1.33?

Midnight Buddha

05-11-2012, 10:45 PM

Even if it is region A locked, i`ll still be buying the blu-ray just to own it.

CPT HOOK

05-11-2012, 11:22 PM

Hey. amazon has it listed as full frame 1.33?

Probably a mistake. It happens quite often on Amazon.

There are plenty of widescreen versions out there (including the one I have DVRed off TCM), so I imagine Olive Films shouldn't have a problem getting a hold of a widescreen print.

ronnie21

05-12-2012, 12:05 AM

whats all the argue about this region locked stuff? it a U.S. region 1 right???

Midnight Buddha

05-12-2012, 12:27 AM

Because i want to import the blu-ray, i have region free dvd players, but my blu-ray player won`t play a region A blu-ray disc.

russweiss

05-12-2012, 03:40 PM

We're aware of that. ;)

Not everyone knows everything like you do. Some other users were happy with the news.

ronnie21

05-12-2012, 05:25 PM

Yeah i agree, iam excited of this release, 2 biggies here. the fact that it will be on blu-ray and not just dvd, and the fact that they are using the original poster art...

Anthropophagus

05-12-2012, 06:54 PM

not everyone knows everything like you do. Some other users were happy with the news.

+1

CPT HOOK

05-12-2012, 07:41 PM

Not everyone knows everything like you do. Some other users were happy with the news.

I think they were referring to the fact that there was already an existing thread here where it was being discussed.

startide

05-13-2012, 04:23 AM

I think they were referring to the fact that there was already an existing thread here where it was being discussed.

FWIW, I think this title being released on DVD and BD warranted an entirely new thread. DVD is one thing, but BD as well? Holy crap!! :eek: I sure as hell didn't read the Olive Films thread where it was announced.

Anthropophagus

05-13-2012, 03:22 PM

FWIW, I think this title being released on DVD and BD warranted an entirely new thread. DVD is one thing, but BD as well? Holy crap!! :eek: I sure as hell didn't read the Olive Films thread where it was announced.

Me neither. Olive Films? What the hell.

elDomenechHDG

05-13-2012, 03:30 PM

So besides BOOGENS and DR. TERROR'S HOUSE OF HORRORS, what other cult titles might we see from Olive in the future? I understand they have access to the entire Republic catalog. NIGHT OF THE DEMONS 2?

Shawn Francis

05-14-2012, 09:00 PM

Would love to see them put out THE KEEP (1983).

MisterTwister

05-14-2012, 10:25 PM