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Shawn Francis
06-04-2011, 01:14 AM
If this like the Echo Bridge deal then what's the point of re-buying them? If they are new transfers and/or new estras then sure, but I don't think that's what this deal is about. All links go to Image Entertainment's sight. Did you guys know they own the rights to THE PREY? Found this out recently and sent them an email asking if this was true and if they could release. Never got a reply. Figures.

THE HILLS HAVE EYES (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7B92B9C686-AD25-4252-B06B-E58EDD7EA1D8%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B20AC138E-F22B-4ADB-BE2E-9EB000077DED%7D)

HEATHERS (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7B93D6C729-C20E-4BBF-A226-A627E9379706%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B51FF00A7-F8B7-4DC8-87D1-9ECE00086769%7D)

DEAD HEAT (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7BB81B483C-AD92-4BC0-A135-1F33FB2240C3%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B1E7F026F-1941-435F-B8FD-9EF600093762%7D)

VAMP (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7B59A9D93C-1EA5-470B-8E66-4B0ABC5A165B%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B527F0956-87B0-4EB0-8E1E-9EF600093762%7D)

HELLRAISER (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7BA6736A53-FAC2-422F-9C96-D94A7104DB20%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B4233C9BD-FCB4-42F4-A831-9ECE00086769%7D)

HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7B79E1C7FF-20F5-4C97-98BE-82935B54BDAF%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7B3EA44D74-4C46-4C2F-A66B-9EF600093762%7D)

CHILDREN OF THE CORN (http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID=%7B25B3B736-601F-4474-9A9D-23B8CEC0AB57%7D&BusinessUnitID=%7B86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF%7D&ProductID=%7BD205290B-4BC2-4B1B-9890-9ECE00086769%7D)

HAEMORRHAGE
06-04-2011, 01:21 AM
Like Heathers doesn't have enough versions out there already. Maybe they should release a new DVD of Halloween while they're at it?

fceurich39
06-04-2011, 01:24 AM
will get hills have eyes on blu 9/6/2011 if that release date holds up

fceurich39
06-04-2011, 01:38 AM
also seen creepshow 2 also but just the dvd no blu-ray

Katatonia
06-04-2011, 01:41 AM
Hopefully they do a better job than they have with most of their Blu-ray releases of older genre titles.

fceurich39
06-04-2011, 01:44 AM
yeah hills have eyes i aint expecting a whole lot the picture quality isnt very good on the anchor bay 2 disc dvd

Nailwraps
06-04-2011, 02:31 AM
I don't know. Django got a great PQ upgrade for the Blu-Ray. Image should also consider re-releasing The Hills Have Eyes Part 2 with a new transfer and judging by what I'm seeing, it can't be long now.

fceurich39
06-04-2011, 03:17 AM
I don't know. Django got a great PQ upgrade for the Blu-Ray. Image should also consider re-releasing The Hills Have Eyes Part 2 with a new transfer and judging by what I'm seeing, it can't be long now.

and in widescreen too

CPT HOOK
06-04-2011, 03:27 AM
I already own the Anchor Bay blu-rays of Heathers and Children Of The Corn, so no need for those. I have the DVDs for all of the rest (including Heathers and COTC, actually).

I'd love to upgrade Vamp, depending on the reviews. I'll probably get Hills Have Eyes too. I don't think I ever even opened my Dead Heat DVD.

Katatonia
06-04-2011, 03:34 AM
I don't know. Django got a great PQ upgrade for the Blu-Ray. Image should also consider re-releasing The Hills Have Eyes Part 2 with a new transfer and judging by what I'm seeing, it can't be long now.

The first Django? Blue Underground released that.

Image's DVD of The Hills Have Eyes Part 2 had an atrocious transfer.

Nailwraps
06-04-2011, 03:46 AM
The first Django? Blue Underground released that.

I know. I'm just saying that sometimes a film will get a new transfer for a Blu-Ray release that looks better than it's recent/current DVD release.

It's me, Billy
06-04-2011, 05:41 AM
So Anchor Bay/Starz licensed these titles out to Image? I guess that means the AB/Starz BDs/DVDs are out of print?

I don't see how Image could do any better for Children of the Corn than Anchor Bay/Starz did with their 20th Anniversary DVD and 25th Anniversary BD.

And as for Heathers...I own the 2001 DVD (with the Winona Ryder cover), the 20th Anniversary DVD from 2008, and the BD. It would be nice for Image to add something substantial like a commentary track with Winona Ryder, Shannen Doherty, Christian Slater, and Lisanne Falk. Perhaps a tribute documentary on Kim Walker (Heather Chandler) who died in 2001 at the age of 32.

Kolpitz
06-04-2011, 06:00 AM
I have absolutely no faith in these releases. Image has never been a great company but their track record as of late has been truly abysmal.

Nailwraps
06-04-2011, 06:05 AM
In defense, they've done great with the Sony catalogue. We got Money Train in it's widescreen ratio at last.

Samhoryak
06-04-2011, 06:10 AM
Hellraiser 2 and Hills Have Eyes are already up fo pre-order at Amazon, among others. I will be getting these 2 assuming they are not complete garbage.

tropical marsh
06-04-2011, 06:41 AM
In defense, they've done great with the Sony catalogue. We got Money Train in it's widescreen ratio at last.

Sony originally released Money Train with widescreen and full screen formats, one format on each side (I know this, because I have it). It was in 2004 that Sony reissued a bunch of DVDs in full screen only. Sheena, Idle Hands, Air Force One, Revenge, Anaconda, The Fan, Silent Rage, etc. To be fair, Sony rereleased a few titles as widescreen only, but the vast majority were relegated to full screen status.

But yeah, finding the Money Train DVD with the widescreen option isn't easy anymore, so it's nice that Image put out the BD.

Katatonia
06-04-2011, 06:55 AM
I know. I'm just saying that sometimes a film will get a new transfer for a Blu-Ray release that looks better than it's recent/current DVD release.

Of course older films can look superb on Blu-ray, if done right. Image's Blu-rays of Time Bandits and Dreamscape are disasters for example.

I also kind of doubt Image actually had a hand in the transfers for the Sony Blu-rays, they just distributed them. Many were just reissues, like The Deep. Sony already had HD masters for many of their films in the vault.

Zombie Dude
06-04-2011, 12:29 PM
Isn't Hellraiser already on bly from Straz? I'd like to pick up part 2.

Katatonia
06-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Isn't Hellraiser already on bly from Straz? I'd like to pick up part 2.

Yeah, it was already released by Anchor Bay/Starz. It looks like the rights to most of the New World library (post-Corman) are now with Image, so we'll see some reissues. Whether or not they'll be exact clones of the old discs though...

It's interesting that the Anchor Bay website still lists all of the New World films in their catalog of films, and haven't yet removed them. It doesn't look like any of the DVD/Blu-ray releases are getting scarce as of yet.

Zombie Dude
06-04-2011, 03:05 PM
Yeah, it was already released by Anchor Bay/Starz. It looks like the rights to most of the New World library (post-Corman) are now with Image, so we'll see some reissues. Whether or not they'll be exact clones of the old discs though...

It's interesting that the Anchor Bay website still lists all of the New World films in their catalog of films, and haven't yet removed them. It doesn't look like any of the DVD/Blu-ray releases are getting scarce as of yet.

Interesting. Well I hope Hellbound gets a nice new transfer. Now the question is which release of Hellraiser should I get? Should I get both? Hmmm *ponders*

bigdaddyhorse
06-04-2011, 04:33 PM
In defense, they've done great with the Sony catalogue. We got Money Train in it's widescreen ratio at last.

So do most pawn shops with the first Columbia dvds, although it did take a while to track down a copy.;) Sheena was/probably is the hardest to find with WS.

Does Image handle catalog titles like EB, i.e. no extras or menus, movie only blu-rays? I might have to go get the AB Heathers Blu if so.

The only Image BD I've seen in action is Stuck, which wasn't a bad presentation for a not-very-cared-about flick, along with a few extras and decent transfer. Of course I'm sure Stuck is their title, so they would bother to put an extra feature or 2 on it. I'm hoping this isn't like their old Universal dvd deal, where we'd be lucky to get a trailer along with the flick, but feel it will be.

Edit: Didn't see page 2 before posting, so tropical marsh already said most of what I did, but my question stands about those catalog BD's.

bigdaddyhorse
06-04-2011, 05:13 PM
No one hyped for Apt Pupil of Johnny Mnemonic? I could care less about Johnny too, but Apt Pupil is awesome and the dvd is in need of an upgrade if I recall. The Image site even says it will have the making of from the dvd!

zombiecraig
06-04-2011, 05:54 PM
I'd love a Vamp upgrade, too. As long as they track down additional footage. When this was shown on my local FOX affiliate back in the late 80s (probably part of some syndicated movie "debut", similar to the old Universal Pictures Debut Network, though this was New World, I know), there was additional footage shown in place of segments that had to be cut for television.

There wasn't a great deal of footage, but there were additional scenes around the near-elevator-death/escape scene. A sequence where Chris Makepeace spends more time contemplating taking the stairs and another where he enters a room through the window and is nearly assaulted by an elderly couple who are trying to ward him off, as if he is a vampire.

Sorry, I love Vamp, and as a kid I had recorded it during one of these broadcasts and will never forget those additional scenes. Though they may actually not add much, if I saw them today, it would still be nice to have them at least as deleted scenes.

I doubt I still have the old VHS with the broadcast recording on it.

Now that I'm thinking about it, there may have been a few additional street or sewer scenes, as well.

CPT HOOK
06-05-2011, 02:05 AM
Sorry, I love Vamp

Don't apologize, Vamp is a great flick! I'd love to see the additional footage.

Katatonia
06-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Don't apologize, Vamp is a great flick! I'd love to see the additional footage.

The UK Blu-ray of Vamp is quite a nice package. The disc is region-free, so it'll play anywhere.

It's packed as far as bonus features are concerned. No new deleted scenes though.

SaxCatz
06-05-2011, 12:39 PM
Of course older films can look superb on Blu-ray, if done right. Image's Blu-rays of Time Bandits and Dreamscape are disasters for example.

I also kind of doubt Image actually had a hand in the transfers for the Sony Blu-rays, they just distributed them. Many were just reissues, like The Deep. Sony already had HD masters for many of their films in the vault.

Eh, y'all quit yer bitchin'... Better in the hands of Image than Echo Bridge. ;)
And Dreamscape is not a disaster... yes, its 1080i (I've discussed before why this isn't a big deal) & yes, the print is smattered with damage- such was the condition of the source material & clearly there was no budget for restoration of the film elements. The release is disappointing, but far from a "disaster."

CPT HOOK
06-05-2011, 10:33 PM
I doubt Image will contribute any new extra features, but I'm hoping they will carry over the ones from the Anchor Bay discs. If they don't, I already own the DVDs, so I will settle for a quality transfer.

Has anyone viewed Image's Jawbreaker blu-ray? How's the quality? I'm also curious about Apt Pupil.

Steel76
06-05-2011, 11:03 PM
Image did an INCREDIBLE job on "Assault on Precinct 13" on BD.
The PQ is superb and much better than I had ever hoped for. Looks like if it was shot yesterday. Lots of fine-details and with wonderful colors. And no DNR :)

And then we have the Twilight Zone season sets on BD that also looks perfect, razor sharp with all the filmgrain intact.

So not everything they release is mediocre, far from it.

blu
06-05-2011, 11:49 PM
Dead Heat will be mine. The more zombie flicks in HD the better.

crikan
06-06-2011, 04:26 PM
Wow Dead Heat on BD. I never thought that would happen.

Kolpitz
06-06-2011, 08:41 PM
Image did an INCREDIBLE job on "Assault on Precinct 13" on BD.
The PQ is superb and much better than I had ever hoped for. Looks like if it was shot yesterday. Lots of fine-details and with wonderful colors. And no DNR :)

And then we have the Twilight Zone season sets on BD that also looks perfect, razor sharp with all the filmgrain intact.

So not everything they release is mediocre, far from it.

They seem to do a good job with titles that they've had the rights to for awhile. But, the acquisition of the Studio Canal titles saw them taking a nosedive in BD quality (no remastering, PAL sourced transfers, massive amounts of dirt and scratches). I just hope the same isn't true for the Sony and Anchor Bay acquisitions.

Katatonia
06-09-2011, 06:32 PM
Amazon has the coverart posted for the Hellbound: Hellraiser II Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054602SU)

It looks pretty much like the recycled artwork from Anchor Bay's 20th Anniversary Edition DVD...albeit now with the "Midnight Madness Series" banner.

JGrendel
06-09-2011, 07:23 PM
Amazon has the coverart posted for the Hellbound: Hellraiser II Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054602SU)

It looks pretty much like the recycled artwork from Anchor Bay's 20th Anniversary Edition DVD...albeit now with the "Midnight Madness Series" banner.

Whatever works, I'm just happy that they're releasing it.

It's me, Billy
06-10-2011, 01:25 AM
I doubt Image will contribute any new extra features, but I'm hoping they will carry over the ones from the Anchor Bay discs. If they don't, I already own the DVDs, so I will settle for a quality transfer.

Has anyone viewed Image's Jawbreaker blu-ray? How's the quality? I'm also curious about Apt Pupil.

Jawbreaker looks outstanding, like a brand new film, not one from 1999. I figured it would look good in HD because of the bold, bright colors saturated throughout. Visually, it's gorgeous. It's 1.85:1 1080p. Unfortunately, the director's commentary track from the DVD was not retained. Just picked up Blue Crush (2002) on BD today. That's another film that should look gorgeous in HD.

SickNick89
06-10-2011, 01:38 AM
Jawbreaker looks outstanding, like a brand new film, not one from 1999. I figured it would look good in HD because of the bold, bright colors saturated throughout. Visually, it's gorgeous. It's 1.85:1 1080p. Unfortunately, the director's commentary track from the DVD was not retained. Just picked up Blue Crush (2002) on BD today. That's another film that should look gorgeous in HD.

Funny you mention that. I have Jawbreaker and Beyond the Darkness on blu coming from amazon. I'm excited to see all those colors pop in HD. I'm a big fan of Jawbreaker (saw it twice in the theater even). Columbia has done a great job of getting their smaller catalog titles out there in HD. It gives me hope (and I'm sure im the only one), that someday Spice World will get an HD upgrade.
How does Blue Crush look? Worth the upgreade?

CPT HOOK
06-10-2011, 09:08 AM
^ I am curious about Blue Crush on blu-ray myself. I caught it on Starz HD not too long ago, and it didn't look too great. The image seemed dark, and it didn't have that HD pop. I hope they used a better source for the blu-ray.

WesReviews
06-10-2011, 08:45 PM
More cover art and pre-orders...

September 6th...
Children of the Corn *
Hellbound: Hellraiser II * (http://www.amazon.com/Hellbound-Hellraiser-Blu-ray-Clare-Higgins/dp/B0054602SU/ref=pd_bxgy_d_text_b)
Hellraiser *
The Hills Have Eyes * (http://www.amazon.com/Hills-Have-Eyes-Blu-ray/dp/B00546031G/ref=pd_sim_d_2)
House (http://www.amazon.com/House-William-Katt/dp/B0053TWVK0/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734666&sr=1-2)
House II: The Second Story (http://www.amazon.com/House-II-Second-Arye-Gross/dp/B0053TWVA0/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734636&sr=1-2)
Return of the Killer Tomatoes

September 20th...
Creepshow 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Creepshow-2-Tom-Savini/dp/B0053TWV46/ref=sr_1_12?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734231&sr=1-12)
Dead End Drive-In (http://www.amazon.com/Dead-End-Drive--Ned-Manning/dp/B0053TWVRI/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734460&sr=1-4)
Dead Heat * (http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Heat-Blu-ray-Treat-Williams/dp/B0054602VC/ref=ed_oe_blu)
Flowers in the Attic (http://www.amazon.com/Flowers-Attic-Kristy-Swanson/dp/B0053TWVSC/ref=sr_1_7?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734539&sr=1-7)
The Initiation (http://www.amazon.com/Initiation-Daphne-Zuniga/dp/B0053TWVQE/ref=sr_1_5?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734205&sr=1-5)
Mountaintop Motel Massacre (http://www.amazon.com/Mountaintop-Motel-Massacre-Bill-Thurman/dp/B0053TWVT6/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734137&sr=1-4)
Slugs (http://www.amazon.com/Slugs-Michael-Garfield/dp/B0053TWWAE/ref=sr_1_8?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734322&sr=1-8)
The Stuff
Vamp * (http://www.amazon.com/Vamp-Blu-ray-Grace-Jones/dp/B005460302/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307733981&sr=1-4)
The Vineyard (http://www.amazon.com/Vineyard-James-Hong/dp/B0053TWVYQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1307734087&sr=1-3)

CPT HOOK
06-12-2011, 04:27 AM
I kind of hope they re-release the Angel Collection. That's one I've always been pissed I didn't buy the first time around.

Does anyone know if this deal includes Escape 2000? I want to pick up the Anchor Bay DVD while it's on sale at DeepDiscount, but I might hold off if there is a possible blu-ray release in the near future?

bigdaddyhorse
06-12-2011, 04:14 PM
I kind of hope they re-release the Angel Collection. That's one I've always been pissed I didn't buy the first time around.




I never expect to see those films again. Sucks as I had that set, watched it and thought I wouldn't ever want to see them again, sold it for a fraction of todays prices, and now want to try the films again.:(
I am next up if anyone is silly enough to post a set on swapadvd though. :banana:Started at 3, so either 2 people posted them, or 2 people gave up waiting. I don't mind waiting, and it's had the #1 slot for like 3 years.

Hey, I got a copy of Caged Heat from there, so anything is possible!

Katatonia
06-12-2011, 09:40 PM
I kind of hope they re-release the Angel Collection. That's one I've always been pissed I didn't buy the first time around.

Pretty amazing what the Angel set goes for now. I grabbed my set new back when it was in print and spent around $23.

Some stuff goes OOP and gets rare really fast though. I remember Hastings having a ton of the Six Pack DVD's not too long ago, now it's quite rare.

SickNick89
06-12-2011, 10:22 PM
I never expect to see those films again. Sucks as I had that set, watched it and thought I wouldn't ever want to see them again, sold it for a fraction of todays prices, and now want to try the films again.

EXACT same story with me.

Zombie Dude
06-13-2011, 03:38 AM
I never expect to see those films again. Sucks as I had that set, watched it and thought I wouldn't ever want to see them again, sold it for a fraction of todays prices, and now want to try the films again.:(
I am next up if anyone is silly enough to post a set on swapadvd though. :banana:Started at 3, so either 2 people posted them, or 2 people gave up waiting. I don't mind waiting, and it's had the #1 slot for like 3 years.

Hey, I got a copy of Caged Heat from there, so anything is possible!

You could always just download them.

Dobby
06-13-2011, 03:03 PM
You could always just download them.

That's what I do I download anything I can get my hands on.

Zombie Dude
06-13-2011, 03:14 PM
That's what I do I download anything I can get my hands on.

:lol: I download films I'm not sure about buying and OOP titles mostly.

bigdaddyhorse
06-13-2011, 03:22 PM
You could always just download them.

Don't tell anyone! I did download the first film again and liked it a bit better than before, but even though it was a dvd rip I found, it looked like ass.
Although, if I recall, the real dvds looked like ass too! The film will never live up to what my demented 12-13 year old brain imagined from the newspaper ads. Nobody has made that film yet, although Gutterballs was probably on the right track!

I mostly just want them because I don't have them anymore if that makes sense. Fucking collector in me.:mad: Ironic though, I want this back and could not possibly care less about not having the Sleepaway Camp set anymore.:rolleyes: Guess I do love bad shit.

Zombie Dude
06-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Don't tell anyone! I did download the first film again and liked it a bit better than before, but even though it was a dvd rip I found, it looked like ass.
Although, if I recall, the real dvds looked like ass too! The film will never live up to what my demented 12-13 year old brain imagined from the newspaper ads. Nobody has made that film yet, although Gutterballs was probably on the right track!

I mostly just want them because I don't have them anymore if that makes sense. Fucking collector in me.:mad: Ironic though, I want this back and could not possibly care less about not having the Sleepaway Camp set anymore.:rolleyes: Guess I do love bad shit.

I know what you mean. It's the worst when you sell something cheep and later on it becomes worth a lot. Luckily though I've tamed the collector in me a little. I'd be broke otherwise. :p

Dobby
06-13-2011, 03:53 PM
:lol: I download films I'm not sure about buying and OOP titles mostly.

I got my laptop connected to my TV. I've downloaded so far about 400 movies. Plus I got all my movies on backup drives. So I'm pretty much set for life when it comes to movies. Anyway screw buying waste of money IMO.

Zombie Dude
06-14-2011, 02:00 AM
I got my laptop connected to my TV. I've downloaded so far about 400 movies. Plus I got all my movies on backup drives. So I'm pretty much set for life when it comes to movies. Anyway screw buying waste of money IMO.

Well that is a pretty good setup. I still like to buy my favorite movies though.

Dobby
06-14-2011, 05:07 AM
Well that is a pretty good setup. I still like to buy my favorite movies though.

Oh yeah me too for sure but those are few and far inbetween. Allot of movies I want are nowhere to be found on DVD. So buying is not an option for me in most cases.

Zombie Dude
06-14-2011, 06:06 AM
Oh yeah me too for sure but those are few and far inbetween. Allot of movies I want are nowhere to be found on DVD. So buying is not an option for me in most cases.

Some films are not worth paying for as well.

Sinister Ash
06-24-2011, 07:00 AM
I noticed the run time for the Hellraiser AB release and Image are different by 1 minute. Does anyone know if there's a longer cut of Hellraiser in existence? Could the Image disc have an uncut version?

Katatonia
06-24-2011, 08:12 AM
I noticed the run time for the Hellraiser AB release and Image are different by 1 minute. Does anyone know if there's a longer cut of Hellraiser in existence? Could the Image disc have an uncut version?

Probably just a typo. Pre-release titles generally have an incorrect running time listed 2 out of every 3 times.

SaxCatz
06-24-2011, 12:36 PM
I'm sad that they'll be no Blu-ray of House. :D

Zombie Dude
06-24-2011, 01:39 PM
I'm sad that they'll be no Blu-ray of House. :D

You look pretty happy to me. ;)

bigdaddyhorse
06-24-2011, 05:05 PM
I noticed the run time for the Hellraiser AB release and Image are different by 1 minute. Does anyone know if there's a longer cut of Hellraiser in existence? Could the Image disc have an uncut version?

Either a misprint or they threw another logo on the front or back of the film which might've padded the runtime. Don't trust listed runtimes on covers, so many are wrong.

fceurich39
06-24-2011, 08:37 PM
any news if the special features for hellraiser II or hills have eyes will be ported over i dont really care cause i'll get em anyway since i still have the dvds but still wanna know?

JGrendel
06-24-2011, 08:53 PM
I'm sad that they'll be no Blu-ray of House. :D

To me that really sucks I actually liked the first two House movies & would love to see them on blu.

Spacetraveler
06-24-2011, 10:23 PM
To me that really sucks I actually liked the first two House movies & would love to see them on blu.

Do the re-releases of House 1 and 2 by Image have new extra content or are they the same release as the Anchor Bay version?

Nailwraps
06-25-2011, 02:50 AM
They gonna probably be bare-bones. We'll be lucky if the extras from the AB release are ported at all.

Sinister Ash
06-25-2011, 09:28 PM
Either a misprint or they threw another logo on the front or back of the film which might've padded the runtime. Don't trust listed runtimes on covers, so many are wrong.

Probably just a typo. Pre-release titles generally have an incorrect running time listed 2 out of every 3 times.

Yeah I thought it might be too good to be true.

JGrendel
06-26-2011, 08:14 AM
Does anyone know if Blu-rays are coming for Creepshow 2 & The Stuff?

CPT HOOK
06-26-2011, 08:42 AM
Does anyone know if Blu-rays are coming for Creepshow 2 & The Stuff?

It doesn't appear so, at least not in this first wave of releases.

JGrendel
06-26-2011, 08:43 AM
It doesn't appear so, at least not in this first wave of releases.

Well again here's hoping they do so.

Grim
07-04-2011, 02:40 PM
Ugh, read this plot synopsis that's on the Hellraiser case:

"From horror master Clive Barker comes this chilling nightmare featuring the first appearance of the hideous zombie Pinhead, who terrifies his brother and his estranged wife now inhabiting his former home. When a drop of blood partially resurrects him, all hell breaks loose as Pinhead forces his sister-in-law, formerly his lover, to kill and kill again so he can become whole. A creepy, thrillingly perverse tale straddling the thin line between heaven and hell, extreme pleasure and unbearable pain, Hellraiser will haunt your dreams."

I didn't know Larry and Pinhead were brothers.

Kolpitz
07-04-2011, 03:40 PM
Ugh, read this plot synopsis that's on the Hellraiser case:

"From horror master Clive Barker comes this chilling nightmare featuring the first appearance of the hideous zombie Pinhead, who terrifies his brother and his estranged wife now inhabiting his former home. When a drop of blood partially resurrects him, all hell breaks loose as Pinhead forces his sister-in-law, formerly his lover, to kill and kill again so he can become whole. A creepy, thrillingly perverse tale straddling the thin line between heaven and hell, extreme pleasure and unbearable pain, Hellraiser will haunt your dreams."

I didn't know Larry and Pinhead were brothers.

That's amazing. I hate Image.

CPT HOOK
07-04-2011, 03:48 PM
^ They forgot to mention the "Hotty McSmarty" (Ashley Laurence). ;)

Zombie Dude
07-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Ugh, read this plot synopsis that's on the Hellraiser case:

"From horror master Clive Barker comes this chilling nightmare featuring the first appearance of the hideous zombie Pinhead, who terrifies his brother and his estranged wife now inhabiting his former home. When a drop of blood partially resurrects him, all hell breaks loose as Pinhead forces his sister-in-law, formerly his lover, to kill and kill again so he can become whole. A creepy, thrillingly perverse tale straddling the thin line between heaven and hell, extreme pleasure and unbearable pain, Hellraiser will haunt your dreams."

I didn't know Larry and Pinhead were brothers.

Wtf!? That's beyond poor. They would have been better off and more accurate using a synopsis from imdb. Pinhead, a zombie... brother to Larry... former home! :nervous:

Katatonia
07-04-2011, 06:53 PM
Ugh, read this plot synopsis that's on the Hellraiser case:

"From horror master Clive Barker comes this chilling nightmare featuring the first appearance of the hideous zombie Pinhead, who terrifies his brother and his estranged wife now inhabiting his former home. When a drop of blood partially resurrects him, all hell breaks loose as Pinhead forces his sister-in-law, formerly his lover, to kill and kill again so he can become whole. A creepy, thrillingly perverse tale straddling the thin line between heaven and hell, extreme pleasure and unbearable pain, Hellraiser will haunt your dreams."

I didn't know Larry and Pinhead were brothers.

:lol: That has to be one of the worst Overviews ever. First Pinhead's a "zombie" and then he's Larry's "brother"? Obviously the person who wrote that never watched the movie, or if they did they've been snorting some zombie penis powder.

fceurich39
08-09-2011, 06:44 PM
update i got an email from image saying the hills have eyes dvd will have all the special features from the anchor bay 2 disc dvd set

CPT HOOK
08-09-2011, 07:08 PM
No new blu-rays to announce, but there are a few more DVD titles announced for November that were previously released by Anchor Bay:

The Angel Collection
Fraternity Vacation / Reform School Girls
The Philadelphia Experiment
Black Moon Rising


Does anyone know if Neon Maniacs was a New World title?

Katatonia
08-09-2011, 07:31 PM
Does anyone know if Neon Maniacs was a New World title?

No, it was never a New World title.

Nailwraps
08-09-2011, 07:55 PM
update i got an email from image saying the hills have eyes dvd will have all the special features from the anchor bay 2 disc dvd set

That's great news! Looks like Image will be using AB extras after all (though time will tell). Could you e-mail them back and ask if they're looking into a new release of the second film?

fceurich39
08-09-2011, 08:37 PM
That's great news! Looks like Image will be using AB extras after all (though time will tell). Could you e-mail them back and ask if they're looking into a new release of the second film?

sure will do i also will ask if they can provide back artwork for hellbound blu and hills blu also


it would be nice if the 2nd film gets a widescreen blu release i doubt it though in my opinion it is better than the sequel to the remake with the army squad

fceurich39
08-09-2011, 08:42 PM
No new blu-rays to announce, but there are a few more DVD titles announced for November that were previously released by Anchor Bay:

The Angel Collection
Fraternity Vacation / Reform School Girls
The Philadelphia Experiment
Black Moon Rising


Does anyone know if Neon Maniacs was a New World title?

nope neon maniacs was released by lightning video which was a subdivision of vestron video i should know i have been a huge fan ever since i saw it on USA UP ALL NIGHT DOUBLE FEATURE WITH THE VIDEO DEAD. i have the both vhs and dvd and a bootleg hd blu-ray i got at a convention in denver last month TOO MY UTTER SHOCK

but it may still come out through image because hills have eyes was not a new world release!!!!

elDomenechHDG
08-09-2011, 11:14 PM
I was initially excited when it was first announced that Image took over the New World catalog but the excitement quickly died down once it became clear these are nothing more than repackagings. What a waste! Why would Image bother rehashing the same stuff? I've seen countless AB DVDs going for 8 bucks in bargain bins, obviously people aren't interested in buying the same stuff. Dead End Drive-In would look great in hi-def, so would House, The Stuff, etc. It's a real shame.

It's me, Billy
08-10-2011, 02:49 PM
^ They forgot to mention the "Hotty McSmarty" (Ashley Laurence). ;)

Everyone needs a Hotty McSmarty :D

SickNick89
08-10-2011, 03:04 PM
No new blu-rays to announce, but there are a few more DVD titles announced for November that were previously released by Anchor Bay:

The Angel Collection
Fraternity Vacation / Reform School Girls
The Philadelphia Experiment
Black Moon Rising


Does anyone know if Neon Maniacs was a New World title?


Awesome! The Angel Collection is getting re-released. I owned it and sold it about 8 years ago think i'd never watch it again and have regretted it ever since. great news!

bigdaddyhorse
08-10-2011, 03:32 PM
Awesome! The Angel Collection is getting re-released. I owned it and sold it about 8 years ago think i'd never watch it again and have regretted it ever since. great news!

Same here, but I sold it more like 12 years ago. Never thought I'd see it again, but now I'll probably get an AB copy back from swapadvd as I've been next in line on that for a year or 2.
The question is, is the whole set getting re-released as it was, or new transfers/extras/no extras? I'd love to see that same digipak set with just a different logo in the back corner, but if I recall, these movies all looked like straight up shit on dvd which played into me selling back when.

Demoni
08-10-2011, 03:48 PM
http://www.image-entertainment.com/images//Angel_LOC_%7Ba2579884-b1cc-469d-3838-60512c1cce08%7D.jpg

I believe the original Anchor Bay set was 3 DVDs (3 x DVD-5).
If this collection only has 2 DVDs, maybe itīs 1 x DVD-9 and 1 x DVD-5.
Love the cover better that the one on the Anchor Bay release.

Never bought the original release so this one will do.

JGrendel
08-10-2011, 05:35 PM
I think I'll stick with the one I got which is the AB edtion.

Katatonia
08-10-2011, 06:39 PM
I think I'll stick with the one I got which is the AB edtion.

Same here. I doubt there'd be any reason to buy the set again if you already own the old one.

I'm even wondering if they'll even include the Deleted Scenes and Stills Galleries that were included on the old set. Image doesn't list those on their website's item page, only the Trailers.

JGrendel
08-10-2011, 07:02 PM
Same here. I doubt there'd be any reason to buy the set again if you already own the old one.

I'm even wondering if they'll even include the Deleted Scenes and Stills Galleries that were included on the old set. Image doesn't list those on their website's item page, only the Trailers.

Then I highly doubt that they were part of the deal with AB or Image just doesn't care & it's a throw away item to them. Hard to say for sure.

JGrendel
08-10-2011, 07:10 PM
I was initially excited when it was first announced that Image took over the New World catalog but the excitement quickly died down once it became clear these are nothing more than repackagings. What a waste! Why would Image bother rehashing the same stuff? I've seen countless AB DVDs going for 8 bucks in bargain bins, obviously people aren't interested in buying the same stuff. Dead End Drive-In would look great in hi-def, so would House, The Stuff, etc. It's a real shame.


My point exactly, Why are only certain movies getting bd treatment & not others? Like I don't understand who made the call for Dead Heat to get a bd & not stuff like House/House 2. The Stuff. Creepshow 2, etc...

Grim
08-11-2011, 12:51 AM
Was Society owned by New World? I'd kill for that on blu-ray.

blu
08-11-2011, 01:17 AM
My point exactly, Why are only certain movies getting bd treatment & not others? Like I don't understand who made the call for Dead Heat to get a bd & not stuff like House/House 2. The Stuff. Creepshow 2, etc...

I couldn't agree more. At this point, one would think all but the smallest independent distributors would be releasing everything on BD. If Mill Creek can sell their BDs for as little as $5 new, surely Image can do the same for $10 or even $15. I'm happy about Dead Heat getting a BD release but I'd also buy the other four you listed had those not been missed opportunities.

Katatonia
08-11-2011, 01:37 AM
Was Society owned by New World? I'd kill for that on blu-ray.

Nope, it wasn't a New World film. I'd love to see it hit Blu-ray too.

JGrendel
08-11-2011, 03:50 AM
Was Society owned by New World? I'd kill for that on blu-ray.


I would too but who owns the rights?

fceurich39
08-19-2011, 03:59 AM
special features for hills have eyes blu has been announced same as 2 disc dvd

http://image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID={92B9C686-AD25-4252-B06B-E58EDD7EA1D8}&ProductID={20AC138E-F22B-4ADB-BE2E-9EB000077DED}
Special Features:
•Commentary with Wes Craven and Peter Locke
•Looking Back At The Hills Have Eyes
•The Directors: The Films of Wes Craven
•Restoration Demo
•U.S. and German Trailers
•Alternate Ending
•Still Galleries
•Wes Craven Biography
•DVD-Rom features

fceurich39
08-29-2011, 03:48 AM
Hellbound Hellraiser II blu-ray specs

•DTS-HD 5.1 (English)
•Audio commentary with Tony Randel, Ashley Laurence, and Peter Atkins
•Five behind-the-scenes featurettes
•Two on-set interviews
•Trailers
•Still gallery

Zombie Dude
08-29-2011, 03:54 AM
Hellbound Hellraiser II blu-ray specs

•DTS-HD 5.1 (English)
•Audio commentary with Tony Randel, Ashley Laurence, and Peter Atkins
•Five behind-the-scenes featurettes
•Two on-set interviews
•Trailers
•Still gallery

So is this just going to be a port over from the AnchorBay release?

fceurich39
08-29-2011, 03:56 AM
yes also here is a image press release on hills have eyes 1977 blu-ray
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/314115/image-press-release-the-hills-have-eyes-1977-blu-ray

shithead
08-31-2011, 10:08 PM
(If these caps are accurate)The Hills Have Eyes Blu doesn't look so hot...http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-5.html

Grim
08-31-2011, 10:58 PM
(If these caps are accurate)The Hills Have Eyes Blu doesn't look so hot...http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-5.html

They don't look hot at all, but I'll wait for some reviews to pop up before I cancel. I'm not expecting much. Craven's early films were rough as all hell, but hopefully the detail is better on the actual release.

bigdaddyhorse
08-31-2011, 11:15 PM
(If these caps are accurate)The Hills Have Eyes Blu doesn't look so hot...http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-5.html


Not hot is an understatement, those look like straight up ass.
Someone was asking if they might be from the German BD, which is just an upscale. If that's what the BD's look like, then this film has no business being on the format at all. Either find a decent print or don't bother.:fuck:

fceurich39
09-01-2011, 12:57 AM
oh well it is cheap price so get a cheap blu no big deal i still want though

Katatonia
09-01-2011, 02:00 AM
(If these caps are accurate)The Hills Have Eyes Blu doesn't look so hot...http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-5.html

Geez, those look pretty poor. The film was shot on 16mm, but it should still look far better than that.

shithead
09-01-2011, 02:06 AM
Geez, those look pretty poor. The film was shot on 16mm, but it should still look far better than that.

Evil Dead and Texas Chainsaw were also shot on 16mm, but the Blu's of those look great. So...yeah, no excuse.

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 03:18 AM
Here's a DVDBeaver review of the Hellraiser Blu-ray (re-release) from Image: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/hellraiser_blu-ray.htm

It's not a review comparison between the Blu-rays, but the only extra feature that's ported over is the Trailer...so the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray is the best option still.

Zombie Dude
09-02-2011, 05:53 AM
Here's a DVDBeaver review of the Hellraiser Blu-ray (re-release) from Image: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/hellraiser_blu-ray.htm

It's not a review comparison between the Blu-rays, but the only extra feature that's ported over is the Trailer...so the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray is the best option still.

It's actually a comparison between the Anchor Bay dvd and the Image bluray. Looks like Anchor Bay wins for special feature though.

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 08:11 AM
It's actually a comparison between the Anchor Bay dvd and the Image bluray. Looks like Anchor Bay wins for special feature though.

I know. I said it wasn't a comparison between the two Blu-rays, but the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray has far more special features.

Zombie Dude
09-02-2011, 08:52 AM
I know. I said it wasn't a comparison between the two Blu-rays, but the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray has far more special features.

Sorry, I misread your post. :o

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Sorry, I misread your post. :o

No problem bro, I do the same thing. :)

Zombie Dude
09-02-2011, 09:49 AM
No problem bro, I do the same thing. :)

What I'm really curious about though is the transfer on Hellbound. I hope that's good.

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 12:27 PM
What I'm really curious about though is the transfer on Hellbound. I hope that's good.

I'm dying to know too. I thought there would have been some advance reviews posted online for these, but it doesn't look like it thus far.

And here's some more news about the first Hellraiser Blu-ray (re-release) from Image:

According to the Blu-ray.com forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-8.html), the HD transfer is not even the same one used on the older Anchor Bay Blu-ray. That Blu-ray also utilized a higher bit-rate for the film. I'd suggest buying the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray if you haven't already!

Steel76
09-02-2011, 02:36 PM
oh well it is cheap price so get a cheap blu no big deal i still want though

Itīs an upscale, clear signs of such artifacts in the screenshots, so why not buy the DVD instead since itīs even cheaper, and let your player upscale it?

Why support a crappy release like this when the PQ isnīt any better than the DVD?
If we keep buying shitty releases like this, the companies will never learn and continue to give us crap like upscales etc, since they will think "Those gullible fools will buy anything as long as it has the Blu-Ray logo on it." and keep on with this low quality shit.

Hell, there is even VHS style ghosting around the edges of the screen. They probably upscaled an old tape master.

Steel76
09-02-2011, 02:38 PM
What I'm really curious about though is the transfer on Hellbound. I hope that's good.

From the screenshots, it looks like another upscale. :(
The HDTV transfers blows it away.

Keep the DVD.

Zombie Dude
09-02-2011, 04:31 PM
I'm dying to know too. I thought there would have been some advance reviews posted online for these, but it doesn't look like it thus far.

And here's some more news about the first Hellraiser Blu-ray (re-release) from Image:

According to the Blu-ray.com forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/174147-hills-have-eyes-1977-coming-9-6-2011-a-8.html), the HD transfer is not even the same one used on the older Anchor Bay Blu-ray. That Blu-ray also utilized a higher bit-rate for the film. I'd suggest buying the old Anchor Bay Blu-ray if you haven't already!
Yea I just might do that. I'd like to have the special features as well.
From the screenshots, it looks like another upscale. :(
The HDTV transfers blows it away.

Keep the DVD.
I don't think there has been screenshots from Hellbound yet.:confused:

Steel76
09-02-2011, 05:08 PM
There are a few screens from Hellbound over here though, you might need to join the forum to see them:
http://forum.cinefacts.de/221087-hellbound-hellraiser-ii-tony-randel-06-09-2011-a.html#post7333875

Two more:
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-3616-1314783961.jpg
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-3616-1314783970.jpg


And here are a few from the HDTV version that looks MUCH superior in comparison:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a00b6a119583160
http://www.imagebam.com/image/1d8c1e119583023
http://www.imagebam.com/image/5069de119583390

Zombie Dude
09-02-2011, 05:36 PM
There are a few screens from Hellbound over here though, you might need to join the forum to see them:
http://forum.cinefacts.de/221087-hellbound-hellraiser-ii-tony-randel-06-09-2011-a.html#post7333875

Two more:
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-3616-1314783961.jpg
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-3616-1314783970.jpg


And here are a few from the HDTV version that looks MUCH superior in comparison:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a00b6a119583160
http://www.imagebam.com/image/1d8c1e119583023
http://www.imagebam.com/image/5069de119583390
Looks like I might be downloading that HD tv version if I can find it. Thanks for the pics :)

fceurich39
09-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Itīs an upscale, clear signs of such artifacts in the screenshots, so why not buy the DVD instead since itīs even cheaper, and let your player upscale it?

Why support a crappy release like this when the PQ isnīt any better than the DVD?
If we keep buying shitty releases like this, the companies will never learn and continue to give us crap like upscales etc, since they will think "Those gullible fools will buy anything as long as it has the Blu-Ray logo on it." and keep on with this low quality shit.

Hell, there is even VHS style ghosting around the edges of the screen. They probably upscaled an old tape master.

i own it on every format so i want the blu

elDomenechHDG
09-02-2011, 06:27 PM
I think these are meant more for people who missed out on the original runs. There's absolutely no incentive for anyone who already owns the Anchor Bay DVDs to upgrade to these. Personally, I'm hoping to see DVDs of New World titles that didn't make it out the first time thru AB, stuff like Breaking All the Rules, The Annihilators or In the Aftermath. This would be the only positive thing to come out of this deal for me.

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 06:43 PM
Geez, Image is looking about equal to Echo Bridge in terms of this batch.

I really wish Anchor Bay still had these...

fceurich39
09-02-2011, 06:49 PM
hellbound hellraiser II blu-ray pics look good

fceurich39
09-02-2011, 06:56 PM
review up for hills have eyes blu
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/the_hills_have_eyes_blu-ray.htm

Katatonia
09-02-2011, 06:57 PM
hellbound hellraiser II blu-ray pics look good

They look average at best, but still a downgrade over the HDTV airing of the film.

Steel76
09-02-2011, 07:05 PM
hellbound hellraiser II blu-ray pics look good

You would do better letting your player upscale the DVD, it will look the same.

Nailwraps
09-02-2011, 07:07 PM
I really wish Anchor Bay still had these...

Me too, they could've given us a hell of good transfer for The Hills Have Eyes. If only they renewed their deal with Lakeshore. Infact, if they have gotten the rights to the Miramax/Dimension library that Echo Bridge and Lionsgate have, we could've gotten complete box sets of the Hellraiser and Children Of The Corn films. To me, right now, Anchor Bay should consider making a deal with MGM to obtain MGM's independent film library.

But hopefully, this release of Hills might be able to get a new remastered edition of the 1985 sequel rolling.

CPT HOOK
09-02-2011, 07:47 PM
Me too, they could've given us a hell of good transfer for The Hills Have Eyes. If only they renewed their deal with Lakeshore. Infact, if they have gotten the rights to the Miramax/Dimension library that Echo Bridge and Lionsgate have, we could've gotten complete box sets of the Hellraiser and Children Of The Corn films. To me, right now, Anchor Bay should consider making a deal with MGM to obtain MGM's independent film library.


Anchor Bay doesn't have the same interest in older genre titles they once had. Even if they had renewed their deal and kept the rights, we probably wouldn't see a blu-ray from them.

They could have put this on blu-ray. They've been releasing blu-rays since 2007 and have had several years to do so. But they didn't. :(

Mikey Horror
09-02-2011, 10:08 PM
Anchor Bay is the house that horror built. Without the horror genre I doubt they would even be in business today and to practically abandon the genre that made you what you are once a new format becomes available is bullshit. They released their biggest horror titles on blu-ray and then just quit. I hope the DTV market runs them into the ground, cause if they honestly think that movies like Super Hybrid are going to make them more money than releasing films like Re-Animator, Phantasm, Halloween 4 & 5, etc. then they're not going to be in business much longer. Actually, I need to be blaming Starz for this bullshit. Anchor Bay was amazing until they ruined them.

Steel76
09-03-2011, 12:52 AM
Yeah, once Starz bought the company, it all went down the crapper :(

But really, today I feel that companies like Synapse is taking over the throne of the "Cult on Disc" department. Plus together with Severin, and the return of Elite Entertainment, they are hopefully the saviours of cult films on disc for the next 10-15 years and beyond :)

Zombie Dude
09-03-2011, 01:01 AM
Geez, Image is looking about equal to Echo Bridge in terms of this batch.

I really wish Anchor Bay still had these...

Same.:( I can't believe they let these slip. Now we have incompetent companies releasing some of our favorite films.

Oh and that Hills Have Eyes blu looks shit. It just looks the exact same as the standard dvd version except the picture is bigger.

Grim
09-03-2011, 02:58 AM
Those DVDBeaver screenshots do look better than the others posted, but still nothing special. I'm keeping my preorder as it's only like $10.

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 03:21 AM
You would do better letting your player upscale the DVD, it will look the same.

Um... maybe if you have poor eyesight and a 26" monitor.:rolleyes:
Believe me, even a "soft" Blu-ray such as this looks MASSIVELY better than an upscaled DVD on any sizeable screen.

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 03:25 AM
Oh and that Hills Have Eyes blu looks shit. It just looks the exact same as the standard dvd version except the picture is bigger.
Its shot on Super 16... IE, the Blu-ray looks like the negative as Super 16 really only captures DVD levels of detail when you get down to it. (Though the actual negative has the capacity for more, when you factor in lenses, exposure, etc it doesn't.)
The Blu-ray SHOULD look much better in motion as it should capture the character and movement of the grain. It should look very film-like projected on a large screen or viewed on a sizeable LCD/PDP. That of course assumes that DNR has not applied and that the meager bit-rate is high enough.

Zombie Dude
09-03-2011, 03:28 AM
Its shot on Super 16... IE, the Blu-ray looks like the negative as Super 16 really only captures DVD levels of detail when you get down to it. (Though the actual negative has the capacity for more, when you factor in lenses, exposure, etc it doesn't.)
The Blu-ray SHOULD look much better in motion as it should capture the character and movement of the grain. It should look very film-like projected on a large screen or viewed on a sizeable LCD/PDP. That of course assumes that DNR has not applied and that the meager bit-rate is high enough.

I thought films like Evil Dead were shot on Super 16 and the blu version for that looks a lot better than the dvd.

dave13
09-03-2011, 05:36 AM
Now we have incontinent companies releasing some of our favorite films.

:lol: i really don't think this is what you meant...

Zombie Dude
09-03-2011, 06:11 AM
:lol: i really don't think this is what you meant...

Nope, I mean incompetent :o Thanks for pointing that out :)

Steel76
09-03-2011, 08:04 AM
Its shot on Super 16... IE, the Blu-ray looks like the negative as Super 16 really only captures DVD levels of detail when you get down to it. (Though the actual negative has the capacity for more, when you factor in lenses, exposure, etc it doesn't.)
The Blu-ray SHOULD look much better in motion as it should capture the character and movement of the grain. It should look very film-like projected on a large screen or viewed on a sizeable LCD/PDP. That of course assumes that DNR has not applied and that the meager bit-rate is high enough.

Super 16 only captures DVD level of details?
Dude you donīt even know what your talking about.

Just so you know, "Walking Dead" was shot on 16mm, and so are alot of other TV series showing on HDTV ;)
http://horrordvds.com/viewarticle.php?commentid=3132#comment3132
No matter the budget, 16 mm is way beyond DVD in details.

16 mm movies like "Evil Dead" and "Dorm that dripped Blood" look like they were shot on 35mm in comparision to this disc.

Even 8mm has more details and sharpness than the horrible D1 upscale they put on the Blu-Ray of "Hills".

Donīt try to defend this crap job they did.

Steel76
09-03-2011, 08:11 AM
Um... maybe if you have poor eyesight and a 26" monitor.:rolleyes:
Believe me, even a "soft" Blu-ray such as this looks MASSIVELY better than an upscaled DVD on any sizeable screen.

A soft movie, sure, but this is an upscaled SD transfer, so it wonīt look any better than the DVD.

Grim
09-03-2011, 01:30 PM
Super 16 only captures DVD level of details?
Dude you donīt even know what your talking about.

Just so you know, "Walking Dead" was shot on 16mm, and so are alot of other TV series showing on HDTV ;)
http://horrordvds.com/viewarticle.php?commentid=3132#comment3132
No matter the budget, 16 mm is way beyond DVD in details.

16 mm movies like "Evil Dead" and "Dorm that dripped Blood" look like they were shot on 35mm in comparision to this disc.

Even 8mm has more details and sharpness than the horrible D1 upscale they put on the Blu-Ray of "Hills".

Donīt try to defend this crap job they did.

Do we know for sure yet that it's an upscale?

bigdaddyhorse
09-03-2011, 03:21 PM
All I know is from looking at those screens of Hills, I see no difference in picture except the blu caps are larger. Everything else looks identical, so why not just keep the dvd and watch it in the BD player which will upscale it to that size? I see no reason for anyone who owns the Hills 2disc to bother with this joke of a BD. In fact, please don't. Send a message that we won't accept shit, and they'll quit trying to serve it! If a better print doesn't exist then it shouldn't be on blu, period.

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 04:29 PM
Super 16 only captures DVD level of details?
Dude you donīt even know what your talking about.

Just so you know, "Walking Dead" was shot on 16mm, and so are alot of other TV series showing on HDTV ;)
http://horrordvds.com/viewarticle.php?commentid=3132#comment3132
No matter the budget, 16 mm is way beyond DVD in details.

16 mm movies like "Evil Dead" and "Dorm that dripped Blood" look like they were shot on 35mm in comparision to this disc.

Even 8mm has more details and sharpness than the horrible D1 upscale they put on the Blu-Ray of "Hills".

Donīt try to defend this crap job they did.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Walking dead is shot on MODERN & QUALITY 16mm film. Comparing it to cheap vintage 70s Super 16 that is the worst misnomer I've ever read and I'm sick of reading it. Also, as I mentioned, the quality of camera, lenses, etc effect the quality of the content on the negative... and Craven used pretty poor equipment.
Raimi and company used somewhat better equipment. However, the DVDs still capture the detail of the original negative while the Blu better captures the texture and structure of the grain which makes it appear much more vivid and film like.
And what makes you think that this Blu-ray is an upscale? There is no evidence of any of the artifacts created by upscaling in the screencaps plus the grain it much better textured (upscaling can't create detail that isn't there) which is, again, indicative of a higher resolution source. I easily believe that it was taken from a dated 1.9K HD Master, but there is no reason to believe that it is an upscale.
I believe it is you who don't have clue what crap you're spewing forth. You're being emotional rather than logical.
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BTW, I don't think that Dorm that Dripped Blood looks too much better than this disc.

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 04:31 PM
Do we know for sure yet that it's an upscale?

No, he's making shit up. I understand him being disappointed in the quality, but labeling it an "upscale" just because he is unhappy with a few screen caps is ridiculous. He hasn't provided any evidence or reasons to confirm that this is an upscale other than the fact that it looks like sh*t.

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 04:49 PM
By the way Steel, I just want to let you know that I DO agree that the release looks like sh*t. I'm probably going to cancel my pre-order. I only wished to emphasize that movies of this vintage, filmed on cheap stock with worn out cameras, may never look any better than they do here; especially if the original negatives are not available and it has to be taken from a print- maybe even a dodgy beat-up release print. The only reason I got so upset with you is your insistence that this is an upscale, which we currently have no evidence of (if it is an upscale, its done well as I see none of the tell-tale signs), and your willingness to try and call me out on knowing nothing on about film stock as that statement is rife with inaccuracy. Let's wait till we see it in motion before we condemn it. If it looks like shit then, I'll join in right with you! ;)

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 05:02 PM
Ok... I've since found quite a few more caps than the DVDBeaver ones. The DVDBeaver caps seem cherry picked. After looking closely at several more, I think Steel may be right that this is an upscale as I'm seeing some "lesser" caps that DO demonstrate the artifacts that I was looking for in the DVDBeaver caps. It is a slightly better upscale than alot of the crap upscales we've seen, but any upscale is unaccetable. I'd still like to see it in motion to see how the grain behaves before I sentence this release to death though...

X-human
09-03-2011, 05:03 PM
Anyone know if Image's re-release of Son'y The Deep on Blu-ray is any different? No one's made a comparison that I've seen.

Steel76
09-03-2011, 05:08 PM
Sorry, SaxCatz, I didnīt mean in anyway to offend you. Sometimes I get a bit carried away when the companies gives us crap like this and they expect to get away with it ;)

But still, Iīve seen lowbudget 16mm films from the 60:s shot on cheap stock on DVD, that almost looks like High Def in comparision. Even the original "Last house on the Left", although very soft, makes "Hills" look like an VHS transfer. If they went back to the original print, and did a new transfer, I can bet it would look MUCH better.
Also, the filmgrain on those screens look more like they turned into a mess of artifacts,

Oh well, weīll just wait and see what the more trustworthy reviewers says about it ;)

SaxCatz
09-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Sorry, SaxCatz, I didnīt mean in anyway to offend you. Sometimes I get a bit carried away when the companies gives us crap like this and expect to get away with it ;)

But still, Iīve seen lowbudget 16mm films from the 60:s shot on cheap stock on DVD, that almost looks like High Def in comparision. Even the original "Last house on the Left", although very soft, makes "Hills" look like an VHS transfer. If they went back to the original print, and did a new transfer, I can bet it would look MUCH better.
Also, the filmgrain on those screens look more like they turned into a mess och artifacts,

Oh well, weīll just wait and see what the more trustworthy reviewers says about it ;)

Yeah, I agree that even the LHotL Blu is much better than this. LHotL is the poster child for a movie that doesn't have anymore detail on Blu-ray then it did on DVD but still looks much superior on Blu-ray thanks to the increased resolutions ability to capture the character of the grain. Evil Dead is another great example of the same where it has only slightly more visible detail than the DVD, the ability of the superior codecs and increased resolutio to capture the texture of the grain makes it look so much more film-like and beautiful. This release doesn't appear to do that although, on first impression, I thought the murdered grain structure was just due to poor compression.
As such, I really didn't think it was an upscale at first as I was relying on the DVDBeaver screencaps and I do note slightly more detail in them. However, I think that difference can just be attributed to the superiority of AVC or VC-1 codec on Blu-ray... the MPEG2 compression on the DVD is smoothing out SOME of the detail visible in the original SD master. Upon viewing that of the other screencaps floating around, it is clear to see some pretty significant artifacts that may be tell-tale signs of an upconversion. Yet the DVDBeaver review mentions nothing of the sort... I'm starting to loose ALOT of faith in the reviews on that website.
I would love them to go back to the original negative and make a new transfer, but who knows if they still exists or what shape they are in? What is the best quality print available? Again, if the negatives are lost and the best quality print is a tattered release print, then even after all the expense of a new HD transfer, it may only look nominally better than this Blu. Unfortunately, we'll probably never find out as this release seems to confirm that the rightsholders didn't expect the release to be profitable enough to justify doing it right in the first place. *sigh*

Steel76
09-03-2011, 05:37 PM
Yet the DVDBeaver review mentions nothing of the sort... I'm starting to loose ALOT of faith in the reviews on that website.


Yeah, the reviewer is also often clueless about the horrible amount of DNR and EE on some discs, until the readers point them out to him ;)

I only visit the Beaver for the screenshots these days, that all.

CPT HOOK
09-04-2011, 06:19 AM
I already own Anchor Bay's Heathers and Children Of The Corn blu-rays, plus Arrow's Vamp blu-ray.

After reading this thread, I stopped by Borders today and nabbed Anchor Bay's Hellraiser blu-ray for $5.99 (70% off).

bigdaddyhorse
09-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Just saw Image put out Money Train on blu. Great news, but it's in the wrong ratio.

It's now an offical race with them and Echo Bridge as to who can fuck up the most titles and be the worst BD release company. My money is still on EB, but this makes it a seriously close game.

What is up with their version of The Deep? That's one I haven't picked up yet and am feeling like maybe I should now before I'm stuck with shit.

spawningblue
09-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Just saw Image put out Money Train on blu. Great news, but it's in the wrong ratio.

It's now an offical race with them and Echo Bridge as to who can fuck up the most titles and be the worst BD release company. My money is still on EB, but this makes it a seriously close game.

What is up with their version of The Deep? That's one I haven't picked up yet and am feeling like maybe I should now before I'm stuck with shit.

Not sure about video or audio, but I know it lost all the extras from the previous Sony Blu Ray. Here's a list from Bluray.com of the Image re-releases and what is missing from their previous releases, again no mention if their is also a difference with the video and audio.

About Last Night...

Image re-release is missing "Ed Zwick and Rob Lowe in Conversation" and an original making-of featurette.

The Big Hit

Theatrical trailer
Director's, Producer's and Screenwriter's Commentary
Deleted scenes

This one seems to be the exception, the Image re-release has actually added Deleted Scenes.

The Deep

Image re-release is missing making-of documentary, and six 1080p selected scenes from the three-hour special edition.

Half Past Dead

Image re-release is missing "The Making of Half Past Dead".

St. Elmo's Fire

Image re-release is missing the featurette "Joel Schumacher Remembers 'St. Elmo's Fire'" and 12 deleted scenes.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5225

spawningblue
09-06-2011, 09:04 PM
Just saw Image put out Money Train on blu. Great news, but it's in the wrong ratio.

It's now an offical race with them and Echo Bridge as to who can fuck up the most titles and be the worst BD release company. My money is still on EB, but this makes it a seriously close game.

What is up with their version of The Deep? That's one I haven't picked up yet and am feeling like maybe I should now before I'm stuck with shit.

Just a heads up, the back of the box is wrong, Money Train is in it theatrically intended 2:35:1 ratio. It has been confirmed on Bluray.com.

bigdaddyhorse
09-06-2011, 11:08 PM
Just a heads up, the back of the box is wrong, Money Train is in it theatrically intended 2:35:1 ratio. It has been confirmed on Bluray.com.

Cool, might be worth picking up then. I just figured with EB altering ratios, it's only a matter of time before someone else follows. Thanks for pointing it out!

Grim
09-06-2011, 11:50 PM
Well mine shipped so we'll see how it really looks when it gets here. If it is truly that horrible I can probably sell it off for almost as much as what I paid for it.

Shawn Francis
09-07-2011, 12:40 AM
Coming from Image on December 13: DEF-ON 4/HELL COMES TO FROGTOWN (Double Feature)

fceurich39
09-07-2011, 01:11 AM
well the hellbound hellraiser II transfer looks good probably the best it will ever look

SaxCatz
09-07-2011, 02:05 AM
well the hellbound hellraiser II transfer looks good probably the best it will ever look

Your observations or is there a good review out? Thanks!

Severn
09-07-2011, 03:35 AM
Your observations or is there a good review out? Thanks!

I popped mine in and it looks great. Never seen that movie look so great. I haven't really gone through it with a fine tooth comb but there were certain shots (like Dr. Chanard coming out of the Lament Configuration box all transformed) looks great. Just my opinion.

dave13
09-07-2011, 03:52 AM
i may have missed this somewhere else on the thread (if thats the case, my apologies), but has anyone confirmed what if any features are on the hellbound blu ray?

eric_angelus
09-07-2011, 04:03 AM
i may have missed this somewhere else on the thread (if thats the case, my apologies), but has anyone confirmed what if any features are on the hellbound blu ray?

Nothing but a trailer (as well as trailers for the first film and Children of the Corn). Watching it right now.

X-human
09-07-2011, 04:20 AM
The Deep

Image re-release is missing making-of documentary, and six 1080p selected scenes from the three-hour special edition.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5225

Damn, Blu-ray.com's single item page didn't list anything but I missed the news. I figured as much too. Unfortunatly I canceled my DeepDiscount order within minutes but they said it was "in process" and couldn't cancel. Two days later I get the shipping notification. :rolleyes:

SaxCatz
09-07-2011, 04:24 AM
I popped mine in and it looks great. Never seen that movie look so great. I haven't really gone through it with a fine tooth comb but there were certain shots (like Dr. Chanard coming out of the Lament Configuration box all transformed) looks great. Just my opinion.

Excellent! I'm so excited to hear that.

Steel76
09-07-2011, 02:36 PM
well the hellbound hellraiser II transfer looks good probably the best it will ever look

Not to be a party pooper, but, we compared the disc over at a friends house two night ago with my HDTV version. And compared to the new HDTV transfer, the BD does look almost like an upscale. Finedetails, colors and blacklevel is far superior in the new transfer.

Pisses me of that they were to cheap to use the new one. :mad:

He told me he would use the BD as a beercoaster from now on. Though the BD isnīt THAT bad of course :D

If you are satisfied with the BD, then DONīT watch the HDTV version, itīs impossible to go back if you do ;)

Edit: The HDTV version I have seems to be from an German HDTV channel. And THAT might be the reason why Image used the old transfer, might be rights issues. Hopefully they will use this transfer on an european BD in the future. There is also an Japanese Boxset of part 1-3 coming on BD. Might check out that one, if itīs not too damn expensive.

dave13
09-07-2011, 03:04 PM
Nothing but a trailer (as well as trailers for the first film and Children of the Corn). Watching it right now.

fucking balls.

Katatonia
09-07-2011, 06:42 PM
Edit: The HDTV version I have seems to be from an German HDTV channel. And THAT might be the reason why Image used the old transfer, might be rights issues. Hopefully they will use this transfer on an european BD in the future. There is also an Japanese Boxset of part 1-3 coming on BD. Might check out that one, if itīs not too damn expensive.

Hopefully it gets a better release somewhere in Europe or Asia in the future...

The forthcoming Japanese 1-3 BD set runs easily over $150+, so I'd wait to see some reviews before laying down that kind of cash.

The recent German Blu-ray doesn't look much better than the DVD either judging by these screenshot comparisons (http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cID=525).

My Image BD should arrive today from Amazon. I'll probably be disappointed in the transfer, but I love the film. Hell, I'll own 5 versions of it now on various formats. I'd love to see the HDTV transfer! :evil:

Severn
09-07-2011, 07:12 PM
Not to be a party pooper, but, we compared the disc over at a friends house two night ago with my HDTV version. And compared to the new HDTV transfer, the BD does look almost like an upscale. Finedetails, colors and blacklevel is far superior in the new transfer.

Pisses me of that they were to cheap to use the new one. :mad:

He told me he would use the BD as a beercoaster from now on. Though the BD isnīt THAT bad of course :D

If you are satisfied with the BD, then DONīT watch the HDTV version, itīs impossible to go back if you do ;)

Edit: The HDTV version I have seems to be from an German HDTV channel. And THAT might be the reason why Image used the old transfer, might be rights issues. Hopefully they will use this transfer on an european BD in the future. There is also an Japanese Boxset of part 1-3 coming on BD. Might check out that one, if itīs not too damn expensive.

Now I need to watch the HDTV version. ;)

eric_angelus
09-07-2011, 08:20 PM
I agree, Hellbound did not look all that spectacular. The first portion of the movie pretty much looks like a DVD. It felt like there should have been a lot more detail present. Later though in the labyrinth sequences the colors are nice and rich so the disc is not a total loss.

It's me, Billy
09-08-2011, 02:31 AM
1.33:1 aspect ratio? Could this also be a typo?

http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/60/1583260bh.jpg

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 02:58 AM
1.33:1 aspect ratio? Could this also be a typo?

http://cdn3a.dvdempire.org/products/60/1583260bh.jpg

I hope so cause the original AB dvd was in 1.85:1

Nailwraps
09-08-2011, 03:20 AM
Not to mention extras.

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 03:23 AM
That & the version I have came with House II

rxfiend
09-08-2011, 03:26 AM
Image another name for Echo Bridge?

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 03:30 AM
Image another name for Echo Bridge?

Ain't that the truth lol!!!!!

Katatonia
09-08-2011, 03:39 AM
1.33:1 aspect ratio? Could this also be a typo?

I wouldn't be surprised if many of these DVD/Blu-ray re-releases utilize different transfers and aspect ratios. Image used a different (and inferior) HD source for the first Hellraiser Blu-ray for example.

I agree, Hellbound did not look all that spectacular. The first portion of the movie pretty much looks like a DVD. It felt like there should have been a lot more detail present. Later though in the labyrinth sequences the colors are nice and rich so the disc is not a total loss.

Agreed. It's a mixed bag. Some of the scenes on the Blu-ray look pretty good, and some look rather poor.

Still, it looked better than I had feared. It's hardly what I'd call a great HD transfer though...it could have looked so much better.

I noticed some compression artifacting here and there. The disc size is under 17gb. I don't see why some of these studios don't maximize the bitrate more to make use of the extra space.

If you're not a big fan of the film, and already own the old DVD (with far more bonus features) you'll find little reason to upgrade.

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 03:43 AM
I was hoping the extras from the 20th aniversary disc would be on the blu cause I didn't pick it up on dvd. Does anyone have a rundown of what's on it compared to the first release?

Katatonia
09-08-2011, 03:58 AM
1st review I've seen for Hellbound: http://www.dvdfile.com/reviews/blurayreviews/168228-hellbound-hellraiser-ii-bd-review

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 04:21 AM
I'm just gonna happy it's on blu & leave it at that.

buck135
09-08-2011, 04:25 AM
1st review I've seen for Hellbound: http://www.dvdfile.com/reviews/blurayreviews/168228-hellbound-hellraiser-ii-bd-review

Glad to hear the picture quality is decent. Mine is en route from Amazon. Unfortunately the Anchor Bay commentary and featurette from the Anchor Bay DVD didn't port over, thus it will remain in my collection.

CPT HOOK
09-08-2011, 05:02 AM
1.33:1 aspect ratio? Could this also be a typo?


House II and Return To Horror High also say 1.33:1 on the back.

JGrendel
09-08-2011, 04:11 PM
House II and Return To Horror High also say 1.33:1 on the back.

Blasphemy!!!! Come on Image you're better than this, all these releases should be in their normal ratios & on Blu.

Steel76
09-09-2011, 10:40 AM
GOOD NEWS!!

They didnīt fuck up "Dead Heat" :)

Just saw some samples from a rip from the Image disc, and from what I saw, it sure as hell looks like itīs a pretty fresh HD transfer with lots of fine details and the filmgrain intact. Though, still a little bit 80:s soft in spots, but thatīs typical of the stock they used in that decade.

Maybe "Hills..." and "Hellbound" was the worst of the bunch, and we will get better quality from now on :)

Nailwraps
09-09-2011, 04:21 PM
Are there any extras for Dead Heat for the Blu?

Steel76
09-09-2011, 04:31 PM
Just a Trailer.

CPT HOOK
09-09-2011, 06:58 PM
I'm curious how Vamp will look and sound in comparison to the Arrow disc.

I already own the Arrow disc, but I just want reassurance (though judging from the comments on their other releases, I'm safe).

Katatonia
09-09-2011, 07:08 PM
Just a Trailer.

Image is really going all out on these releases. :eek:

fceurich39
09-09-2011, 07:56 PM
GOOD NEWS!!

They didnīt fuck up "Dead Heat" :)

Just saw some samples from a rip from the Image disc, and from what I saw, it sure as hell looks like itīs a pretty fresh HD transfer with lots of fine details and the filmgrain intact. Though, still a little bit 80:s soft in spots, but thatīs typical of the stock they used in that decade.

Maybe "Hills..." and "Hellbound" was the worst of the bunch, and we will get better quality from now on :)

Hellbound wasnt messed up and hills transfer really nothing could be done for that old a film maybe a restoration process but that would cost image too much money

also kmart stores got it the midnight madness collection dvds and blu-rays down their halloween aisle

CPT HOOK
09-09-2011, 08:20 PM
also kmart stores got it the midnight madness collection dvds and blu-rays down their halloween aisle

Do you remember the prices?

fceurich39
09-09-2011, 08:42 PM
5.00 for dvds and blu-rays i think was 7.50 and 10.00

rxfiend
09-09-2011, 10:32 PM
Wow, K-mart has these? I should have stopped by earlier, damnit! Still want to get Hellbound despite lousy reviews.

shithead
09-10-2011, 04:15 AM
Just a Trailer.

They didn't carry over the Commentary track from the Anchor Bay?!

Fuck em. I'll just get the AB DVD before it goes OOP.

Katatonia
09-15-2011, 04:05 AM
Here's some screen comparions between The Hills Have Eyes Blu-ray and the old Anchor Bay DVD: http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cID=557

I can perhaps see some very minor difference in a couple of the scenes, but for the most part it's hardly any upgrade over the DVD at all.

chrismac87
09-15-2011, 04:37 AM
Very minor differences? Where? It's the exact same transfer!

Wow. This is, I mean, wow. I'm not a huge fan of this film by any stretch, it's one of those ones I prefer the remake to no question, but this is inexcusable.

I mean it's one thing to have a so-so high def transfer that has some issues because of the film's age and what not, but this just looks like they took the old transfer and slapped it on a Blu Ray without doing anything to it.

That's just, that's wrong. I'm sorry for all the fans out there who were looking forward to this one, that's downright criminal.

shithead
09-15-2011, 07:01 AM
Yeah, that's pretty fucking pathetic.

I literally see no difference.

Katatonia
09-15-2011, 08:10 AM
Very minor differences? Where? It's the exact same transfer!

It's probably just a few compression differences that you can spot in a couple of the scenes by looking closely. But yeah...it looks pretty much like the same transfer.

Who would actually waste money on this shit? :eek:

JGrendel
09-15-2011, 09:19 AM
Unfortunately I did

Katatonia
09-15-2011, 09:34 AM
Unfortunately I did

:D But you didn't know the transfer would be that bad right?

I'll admit that I had it on pre-order. But after seeing a few screenshots posted on forums, I cancelled the order at the last minute.

JGrendel
09-15-2011, 10:08 AM
:D But you didn't know the transfer would be that bad right?

I'll admit that I had it on pre-order. But after seeing a few screenshots posted on forums, I cancelled the order at the last minute.

I heard rumours but was hoping for the best, oh well it's coming maybe it won't look so bad in person.

chrismac87
09-15-2011, 11:39 AM
Does anyone have the overseas release of this?

I'm curious to see how it compares to this version...

Well, considering a now 5 year old DVD is only a minimal difference I'm sure whatever anyone else has got is going to blow this away but call me curious.

Grim
09-15-2011, 01:15 PM
I watched the Hills disc on my big screen the other night and there are indeed improvements in detail in certain scenes, so this isn't a simple case of up conversion. I really believe that it's just a result of how shitty the elements are. I'm not bitter that I bought it, but if you do still have the DVD release, just hold onto that as the improvements aren't substantial, unless you missed out on the 2-disc and want the extras.

JGrendel
09-16-2011, 05:59 AM
I watched the Hills disc on my big screen the other night and there are indeed improvements in detail in certain scenes, so this isn't a simple case of up conversion. I really believe that it's just a result of how shitty the elements are. I'm not bitter that I bought it, but if you do still have the DVD release, just hold onto that as the improvements aren't substantial, unless you missed out on the 2-disc and want the extras.

Did Image keep the extras on the blu?

Katatonia
09-16-2011, 08:04 AM
Did Image keep the extras on the blu?

It has some (not all) of the features. The DVDBeaver review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/the_hills_have_eyes_blu-ray.htm) lists the comparisons between the two.

Nailwraps
09-16-2011, 04:39 PM
Blu-Ray.com review of Hellraiser II!:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Hellbound-Hellraiser-II-Blu-ray/25017/#Review

Steel76
09-16-2011, 06:15 PM
Does anyone have the overseas release of this?

I'm curious to see how it compares to this version...


The european BD has the same crappy transfer :(

spawningblue
09-16-2011, 09:42 PM
Did Image keep the extras on the blu?

It has some (not all) of the features. The DVDBeaver review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/the_hills_have_eyes_blu-ray.htm) lists the comparisons between the two.

It has ALL of the extras. The only thing it doesn't include are the DVD-Rom extras.

FinalSora
09-16-2011, 11:50 PM
Forget these re-releases. I want THE PREY.

fceurich39
09-17-2011, 12:25 AM
Forget these re-releases. I want THE PREY.

not just the prey being that it is a new world title i want that too plus GODZILLA 1985

Grim
09-17-2011, 12:40 AM
I agree with the Hellbound review. While the video is decent, but nothing to write home about, the sound mix Image gave us is fucking great. Even without extras, the disc is worth the measly $10 I paid for a marginal improvement in video and a great leap forward in sound.

Shawn Francis
09-17-2011, 12:55 AM
DECEMBER 13th

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6240/defcon4frogtownloc8e327.jpg

Katatonia
09-17-2011, 02:16 AM
It has ALL of the extras. The only thing it doesn't include are the DVD-Rom extras.

I don't consider that "ALL" of the extras then. :D It hardly makes up for such a shitty transfer.

Grim
09-17-2011, 02:31 AM
I don't consider that "ALL" of the extras then. :D It hardly makes up for such a shitty transfer.

Until someone comes up with a better transfer, I'm going with the belief that that's the best the film will look. Hell, even Anchor Bay's balls to the walls special edition, where they went back and remastered the film looked like absolute dog dicks. Now, I know that it came out in 2003, but there were other films that were low budget features from that time period, shot on 16mm, like The Evil Dead, that also had new releases either that year or the year before that and they looked fantastic. So, if Anchor Bay could make The Evil Dead (a film shot by a bunch of rookie 20-year olds) look as good as it did, yet The Hills Have Eyes still looks like shit, only slightly crisper shit that's in widescreen now, I'd say it's safe to assume that whatever surviving elements there are, be it prints, negatives, what have you, are in equally shitty shape. If not, then I'm sure AB would have presented us with something that would have wiped the floor with this blu-ray.

Katatonia
09-17-2011, 02:52 AM
The point is the Blu-ray transfer of The Hills Have Eyes looks almost exactly the same as the old DVD transfer.

Has anyone offered any valid positive comments or screen comparisons about what's better about the Blu-ray transfer, besides the codec differences?

Grim
09-17-2011, 03:24 AM
The point is the Blu-ray transfer of The Hills Have Eyes looks almost exactly the same as the old DVD transfer.

Has anyone offered any valid positive comments or screen comparisons about what's better about the Blu-ray transfer, besides the codec differences?

Well, I said that I did notice improvements in detail in certain scenes. I'm in agreement that it does look bad, but I think we're putting too much blame on Image in this case. I think the only thing we can really fault them for at this point is for even wasting the time to put a film that will probably always be in such shoddy condition on blu-ray to begin with.

blackeye
09-17-2011, 03:26 AM
Well, I said that I did notice improvements in detail in certain scenes. I'm in agreement that it does look bad, but I think we're putting too much blame on Image in this case. I think the only thing we can really fault them for at this point is for even wasting the time to put a film that will probably always be in such shoddy condition on blu-ray to begin with.

I agree with this, I noticed subtle differences in quality. Stronger colors, etc. I can't imagine this film will ever look as good as we fans would like.

Erick H.
09-17-2011, 07:23 AM
DECEMBER 13th

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6240/defcon4frogtownloc8e327.jpg

Anyone know if these are 16/9.Any extras ? I kinda liked DEF CON 4.I'm a sucker for some of the low budget Canadian flicks from that era.

Katatonia
09-17-2011, 08:21 AM
Anyone know if these are 16/9.Any extras ? I kinda liked DEF CON 4.I'm a sucker for some of the low budget Canadian flicks from that era.

According to Image's website (http://www.image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID={9A5A7A41-FFE6-4C87-58F9-736F5D25CE08}&BusinessUnitID={86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF}&ProductID={40F0C9F3-F132-4BEE-A039-9F3C00078EB5}), it shows 1.85:1 widescreen but also says not 16x9 enhanced. hmm...

JGrendel
09-17-2011, 08:55 AM
I already have Hell Comes to Frogtown but would love a copy of Def Con 4.

Erick H.
09-18-2011, 08:49 AM
According to Image's website (http://www.image-entertainment.com/film.asp?ProjectID={9A5A7A41-FFE6-4C87-58F9-736F5D25CE08}&BusinessUnitID={86E09B33-2863-432E-AFFA-D34EA992FEDF}&ProductID={40F0C9F3-F132-4BEE-A039-9F3C00078EB5}), it shows 1.85:1 widescreen but also says not 16x9 enhanced. hmm...

I hope that's wrong though I guess it still happens.It annoys me that in 2011 companies are still releasing non anamorphic discs.

JGrendel
09-18-2011, 09:16 AM
I hope that's wrong though I guess it still happens.It annoys me that in 2011 companies are still releasing non anamorphic discs.

This wouldn't surprize me, it is Image we're talking about here. They seem bound & determined to put as alittle effort into these releases as humanly possible. I keep wondering if they comparing notes with Echo Bridge.

rxfiend
09-18-2011, 01:21 PM
I believe Image and Echo Bridge are competing for title of "Worst Distributor of the Year" award.

ReelFear
09-18-2011, 04:15 PM
any way you slice it, the new Hills Have Eyes Blu is a disappointment. Out of my 100+ blurays this is the worst looking one. I would only recommend it to Wes Craven or horror completists.

Nailwraps
09-18-2011, 05:45 PM
You can also see that on Image's website The Hills Have Eyes Part II is not there anymore. What could that mean?; They prepping up a new SE, someone else aquired the rights? Only time will tell.

JGrendel
09-18-2011, 08:47 PM
You can also see that on Image's website The Hills Have Eyes Part II is not there anymore. What could that mean?; They prepping up a new SE, someone else aquired the rights? Only time will tell.

Yeah but who would want them? Even Wes Craven said the only reason he did the movie was for the money.

CPT HOOK
09-18-2011, 08:57 PM
Yeah but who would want them? Even Wes Craven said the only reason he did the movie was for the money.

I would buy a special edition or blu-ray of this, since I only own the VHS.


I'm intrigued to hear how their Vamp blu-ray turned out.

Katatonia
09-18-2011, 09:07 PM
You can also see that on Image's website The Hills Have Eyes Part II is not there anymore. What could that mean?; They prepping up a new SE, someone else aquired the rights? Only time will tell.

Let's hope so. The DVD that Image released years ago looked like utter crap.

JGrendel
09-19-2011, 03:28 AM
I would buy a special edition or blu-ray of this, since I only own the VHS.


I'm intrigued to hear how their Vamp blu-ray turned out.

I have Vamp coming my way from Amazon.

JGrendel
09-19-2011, 03:29 AM
Let's hope so. The DVD that Image released years ago looked like utter crap.

Agreed...

Erick H.
09-19-2011, 06:38 AM
Was there a foreign release of HILLS PT. 2 that was widescreen (German perhaps) ?

Nailwraps
09-19-2011, 06:43 AM
Yes. That and Anchor Bay in the UK.

I'm guessing if anyone got the rights to this (if Image doesn't have it anymore), it would be either Severin or Anchor Bay.

JGrendel
09-19-2011, 12:07 PM
Yes. That and Anchor Bay in the UK.

I'm guessing if anyone got the rights to this (if Image doesn't have it anymore), it would be either Severin or Anchor Bay.

If it was Anchor Bay that would be really ironic.

Stige
09-19-2011, 02:10 PM
the hills have eyes 2 disc was anchorbay UK. The picture was vastly improved and it was opened up at the sides compared to the region 1 image disc

nateynate87
09-19-2011, 04:19 PM
Anybody get the rerelease of Slugs yet? I wonder if it's the same disc as AB or better or worse......

nateynate87
09-19-2011, 04:31 PM
Also it appears that despite house and house II saying 1.33:1 on the back they are both in fact 16x9 widescreen

fceurich39
09-19-2011, 05:09 PM
Yes. That and Anchor Bay in the UK.

I'm guessing if anyone got the rights to this (if Image doesn't have it anymore), it would be either Severin or Anchor Bay.

wasnt hills have eyes part 3 included in that box set as well???

Nailwraps
09-19-2011, 05:13 PM
Yes. Hills Have Eyes 3 was also in a box set in both Germany and the UK. I don't know who owns the rights to that in the US.

Nailwraps
09-19-2011, 05:15 PM
Also it appears that despite house and house II saying 1.33:1 on the back they are both in fact 16x9 widescreen

Are the transfers the same as the Anchor Bay releases?

It's me, Billy
09-19-2011, 07:26 PM
Also it appears that despite house and house II saying 1.33:1 on the back they are both in fact 16x9 widescreen

That's good to know, although I already have Anchor Bay's individual release of House from June 2002 (without House II: The Second Story) Love the cover art on that release.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518TRV9YNZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

The transfer on Anchor Bay's DVD is outstanding. For a film from 1986 (25 years ago!) it looks so beautiful. Especially the outdoor scenes early on. The greens of the grass, trees, plants really pop. I wonder if Image plans on releasing House on Blu-ray? I would love to see it in high def.

nateynate87
09-20-2011, 02:48 AM
Are the transfers the same as the Anchor Bay releases?

Not sure, don't have the anchor bay releases to compare unfortunately but these discs aren't too bad all things considered.

I'm going to bite the bullet and order the new slugs DVD as well. For 8.99 I'll live if it's a shitty DVD haha. Plus that cover is just too cool to pass up

Erick H.
09-20-2011, 07:44 AM
Thanks for the info guys !

elDomenechHDG
09-20-2011, 01:11 PM
Forget these re-releases. I want THE PREY.

I could swear THE PREY was released on VHS by HBO/Thorn Emi. This is one of the few slasher-in-the-woods flick I've never seen and would love to. Anchor Bay was supposed to put it out but couldn't find good elements. That's no excuse, really. I hope it makes it out someday.

Stige
09-20-2011, 02:04 PM
the prey was released on video
thorn is correct

JGrendel
09-21-2011, 08:53 AM
That's good to know, although I already have Anchor Bay's individual release of House from June 2002 (without House II: The Second Story) Love the cover art on that release.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518TRV9YNZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

The transfer on Anchor Bay's DVD is outstanding. For a film from 1986 (25 years ago!) it looks so beautiful. Especially the outdoor scenes early on. The greens of the grass, trees, plants really pop. I wonder if Image plans on releasing House on Blu-ray? I would love to see it in high def.


Yeah so would I among quite a few others on Image's list of new releases. But like the others I was hoping for like Creepshow 2 & The Stuff. HOuse & House2 look to stay as just dvds & if that's the case I'll be hanging on to my House/House2 special edition.

Katatonia
09-21-2011, 12:11 PM
Here's a review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/dvd_reviews54/c.h.u.d..htm) of the C.H.U.D. DVD Re-release by Image.

The transfer is probably the same as the old Anchor Bay release, but the new disc doesn't carry over the audio commentary and stills gallery that were on that release.

If you haven't picked up the older DVD, you might want to do it now...

chrismac87
09-21-2011, 02:39 PM
I received VAMP on Blu the other day via Amazon and the transfer looks pretty decent. Definitely not a simple upconversion - I'm actually pretty sure it's the same master from the Arrow disc but I have yet to check to see if it still blocks up on a few instances like the Arrow version does.

Either way, if for whatever reason you haven't purchased the Arrow disc - shame, shame - and you don't care about special features, since the only one is a trailer, then the disc should work for anyone just fine.

FinalSora
09-21-2011, 03:29 PM
Received THE VINEYARD yesterday. I never acquired the original release. It's a decent film with a nice transfer. The only extra is a trailer, which I am assuming was all that was on the original disc. I hope that more odd-ball titles like this get a release through Image-Lakeshore.

The plastic case is horrifically flimsy! I know it's a growing trend with environmentally-friendly cases, but c'mon, these cases take the cake.

elDomenechHDG
09-21-2011, 05:03 PM
I know Anchor Bay did not release the entire post-Corman New World catalog (they released the majority, or, at least, the better-known titles) so which of the ones that weren't released would you guys like to see on Blu? Personally, I'd like to see hi-def versions of Breaking All the Rules (1985), In the Aftermath ('88?) and The Annihilators.

Demoni
09-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Well, Iīve got some great news for some of you who are not happy with the re-releasing of Anchor Bay titles made by Image Entertainment.

Thereīs a legit UK company called "Boulevard Entertainment" that made a deal with Anchor Bay to release some of their past titles in the UK. The great news is that these titles are a direct port of the US Anchor Bay discs, R0 NTSC, with all the extras.

I came in contact with these titles in form of a cool boxset called "The B-Movie DVD Collection". You can get this boxset in a normal 12 DVD set in normal individual cases (in print) or in a digipack format (out-of-print). I bought the normal set and it is a beauty.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/9127b9WgY0L._AA1500_.jpg

From this set, the titles that are a direct port of the Anchor Bay US are:
- Return of the Killer Tomatoes
- Elvira: Mistress of the Dark
- Return To Horror High
- The Stuff
- Hell Comes to Frogtown
- Slugs

You can get this titles individually but some are already out-of-print, and the whole boxset is cheaper (Ģ12.99)

Boxset: http://www.amazon.co.uk/B-Movie-Campaign-Boxset-DVD/dp/B003H9MXS8/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1316628881&sr=1-1
Digipack: http://www.amazon.co.uk/B-Movie-Campaign-Digistak-DVD/dp/B003H9MXSI/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1316629619&sr=1-2

Here are two videos of the boxset:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCyuAo1Fkc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1so67hZQko0

Besides the above titles, this company released these titles from a direct port of the Anchor Bay US discs...
- Soul Man
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6755&image_id=2240
- Heathers
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6765&image_id=2284
- 18 Again!
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6752&image_id=2237
- Death Before Dishonor
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6733&image_id=2183
- Wanted: Dead Or Alive
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-P%2Bo5hSEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
- Sister, Sister
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6751&image_id=2236
- Flowers In The Attic
http://img1.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Flowers-in-the-Attic|51cYCCUlXmL.jpg
- Transylvania 6-5000
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6800&image_id=2292
- The Vineyard
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6801&image_id=2293
- Reform School Girls
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6735&image_id=2185
- Dead Heat
http://www.boulevard-entertainment.com/image.php?mode=detailed&object_id=6758&image_id=2243

I bought the majority of these titles from this company, Boulevard Entertainment, but if need some proof here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFM8omV0s8Q

Mikey Horror
09-21-2011, 08:44 PM
That B-movie box set is amazing. Just placed my order and it came out to $22.72 USD which is a flat out steal as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the heads up. Can't wait to get it.

Demoni
09-21-2011, 08:51 PM
That B-movie box set is amazing. Just placed my order and it came out to $22.72 USD which is a flat out steal as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the heads up. Can't wait to get it.

No need to thank me... I hope youīll enjoy it as much as I... :D

Thatīs $1,89 USD dollars per movie... not bad considering thereīs some gems...

Katatonia
10-01-2011, 02:54 AM
Dead Heat Blu-ray review (with screenshots): http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dead-Heat-Blu-ray/25006/#Review

Superior transfer, but the majority of the old DVD bonus features (including deleted scenes) are gone.

JGrendel
10-01-2011, 08:23 AM
Dead Heat Blu-ray review (with screenshots): http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dead-Heat-Blu-ray/25006/#Review

Superior transfer, but the majority of the old DVD bonus features (including deleted scenes) are gone.

I guess I'm keeping my dvd then

Katatonia
10-01-2011, 08:41 AM
I guess I'm keeping my dvd then

Same here. I'd probably pick it up if it ever goes down to $5-$7, but it's not really a film that I particularly "gotta have" in HD.

JGrendel
10-01-2011, 08:50 AM
Same here. I'd probably pick it up if it ever goes down to $5-$7, but it's not really a film that I particularly "gotta have" in HD.

Agreed... that & I'm still alittle miffed about the fact they choose this for a blu release over Creepshow 2 or The Stuff or even House.

Nailwraps
10-03-2011, 06:13 AM
Vamp Blu-Ray review!:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Vamp-Blu-ray/25003/#Review

Katatonia
10-03-2011, 08:19 AM
Vamp Blu-Ray review!:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Vamp-Blu-ray/25003/#Review

It doesn't sound like the transfer is any improvement over the Arrow Blu-ray, perhaps even the same transfer but on a single-layered Blu-ray. And with only a theatrical trailer included, the Arrow release wins hands down.

elDomenechHDG
10-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Dead Heat is the only Image/New World reissue I'm picking up out of this sorry batch. I almost got rid of a couple of the old AB DVDs in anticipation of these releases - glad I didn't. Everyone else has ported over AB extras for other reissues - what's the problem here?

CPT HOOK
01-29-2013, 02:35 AM
I skimmed this thread and didn't see an answer. I'm hoping someone here can help me out.

Did anyone pick up the Fraternity Vacation / Reform School Girls double feature DVD from Image? I'm curious about the disc itself.

Some sites list it as 2-discs, others only one. Image's official site says 1 disc, so I'm assuming that is correct. Is it a flipper disc? Or both movies on the same side?

It's definitely cheaper than the OOP Anchor Bay versions, but I just want to know what I'm in for before I order.

Nailwraps
01-29-2013, 02:50 AM
I don't have it, but my guess is probably both films on one disc.

MisterTwister
01-29-2013, 03:10 AM
It is indeed both films on one disc (same side, no flipper)

CPT HOOK
01-29-2013, 08:42 AM
Thanks MisterTwister.

I think I'll go ahead and pick it up.