Deadly Spawn Millennium Edition Blu-ray January 24, 2012

[808man]

just saw this!!!
Deadly Spawn Millennium Edition Blu-ray
Street Date - January 24, 2012
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Deadly-Spawn-Blu-ray/28538/

[russweiss]

I'll be picking this up if it gets a good transfer review. If not I'll just keep my DVD.

[Kim Bruun]

Elite Entertainment? I wasn't aware that Elite still existed... And to have aquired the rights from Synapse? Interesting...

[Katatonia]

I'll be picking this up if it gets a good transfer review. If not I'll just keep my DVD.

My thoughts exactly. Since Elite have never even released a Blu-ray before now, I'll wait and see some reviews first.

[SaviniFan]

I like the cover.

[X-human]

I suspect this isn't going Blu, as Arrow is also releasing a new version of Deadly Spawn soon and it won't be on Blu-ray.

[SaviniFan]

I suspect this isn't going Blu, as Arrow is also releasing a new version of Deadly Spawn soon and it won't be on Blu-ray.

Amazon is taking preorders under the guise of it being a blu-ray. That'd be some false advertising if it wasn't true.

[Kolpitz]

I asked Synapse about this on Twitter, and I guess their rights expired and they chose not to renew them. It's a shame as I like Synapse more than Elite but it makes sense if the title isn't a big seller.

[Chomp]

I'm going to wait for reviews on this one...if this looks as good as say, the Basket Case BD, then I'll pick it up.

[MorallySound]

Existing thread: http://horrordigital.com/vb3forum/showthread.php?t=25704&page=3

[spfxted]

Hi. I'm the producer/owner of The Deadly Spawn. I moved the rights from Synapse to Elite because I wanted a Blu-Ray release. The quality should be fine. We shot on so many 16mm stocks that it's tough to remove grain and scratches without spending a small fortune. I found a lot more supp materials, so hopefully it will be fun! My other 2 films are also coming out...HELL ON EARTH on Jan 24 (DVD) and The Regenerated Man on Dec 6th. All are available for pre-order on Amazon.

[X-human]

Thanks for the clarifications Ted. It's good to see people pushing for HD for the pictures.

I hope you guys didn't go overboard with the grain removal. I understand the desire but it seems far too easy for people to crank digital noise reduction up to 11 and pat themselves on the back for how "good" the image looks.

I look forward to seeing Deadly Spawn in HD and will have to check out your other features too.

[elDomenechHDG]

I'm looking forward to DEADLY SPAWN but I'm not familiar with Regenerated Man. What other films have you produced that may see the light of day Ted?

[Zombie Dude]

Hi. I'm the producer/owner of The Deadly Spawn. I moved the rights from Synapse to Elite because I wanted a Blu-Ray release. The quality should be fine. We shot on so many 16mm stocks that it's tough to remove grain and scratches without spending a small fortune. I found a lot more supp materials, so hopefully it will be fun! My other 2 films are also coming out...HELL ON EARTH on Jan 24 (DVD) and The Regenerated Man on Dec 6th. All are available for pre-order on Amazon.

Do you know if this new release will be region free?

[Midnight Buddha]

Do you know if this new release will be region free?

I really hope it is ...

[Zombie Dude]

I really hope it is ...

Same because I've pre-ordered it.

[speanroc]

one of the best horror films from the 80s

[Mikey Horror]

Has this been delayed again?! Amazon lists this as "Temporarily out of stock" but my order still has an estimated shipping date of today. If it was delayed, shouldn't Amazon have sent me an email by now?

[elDomenechHDG]

Has this been delayed again?! Amazon lists this as "Temporarily out of stock" but my order still has an estimated shipping date of today. If it was delayed, shouldn't Amazon have sent me an email by now?

I'm wondering the same thing. My Amazon status says "not shipped yet" so I'm thinking this won't make it out after all. So much for Elite's "comeback".

[Zombie Dude]

It could just be that their stock for one reason or another hasn't arrived yet. When someone does get this please tell us if it's all regions or not :)

[Robert Simandl]

Got this e-mail from Amazon today:

Hello,

We're still trying to obtain the following item[s] you ordered on September 24, 2011:

Tom DeFranco Charles George Hildebrandt "Deadly Spawn: Millennium Edition [Blu-ray]"

Still want it? We'll keep on trying. To keep your order for this item open, please click the link below. Otherwise, we'll cancel your order on March 08, 2012, if we haven't located it by then.

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You'll still be able to cancel at any time before we ship it. If you want to cancel the item now, please click the link below:

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By approving the new delivery estimate, you are letting us know that you still want the item(s).

We will make every effort to get the delayed item(s) to you as soon as possible. If there are other items in your order, they'll be shipped according to the delivery estimates listed in the order details in Your Account (www.amazon.com/youraccount) at no additional cost.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this delay.

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Please consider the following similar items, which may be available sooner:

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Differences between your original item and our recommendations are typically minor but some things, such as the item's cost, may be different.

Sincerely,

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[cjg]

Got an E-Mail from Amazon saying its been delayed

[Demoni]

First "Mother´s Day", now this... what´s next? Popcorn?

[Robert Simandl]

Got an e-mail from Amazon today saying it's been shipped! Woo hoo!

[cjg]

I just got an E-Mail from Amazon saying my copy shipped Will have by Friday

[Demoni]

Got an E-Mail from Amazon saying its been delayed

I just got an E-Mail from Amazon saying my copy shipped Will have by Friday

Yesterday was delayed... today was shipped... Amazon works well!

I got it... Amazon sent you the e-mail saying it was delayed from yesterday until today... :D

[cjg]

Yep thats what happened

[Robert Simandl]

Received mine today, will post when I have time to view....

[Zollman]

Looks worse than an 8 year old DVD.

[dave13]

as i type this im watching the movie for the first time. on the synapse dvd that i just bought through the deepdiscount sale. glad i decided to go this route, rather than waiting for the blu ray, after reading comments here, and this review (http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/02/13/the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition), possibly the most negative one i've ever read.

[MorallySound]

as i type this im watching the movie for the first time. on the synapse dvd that i just bought through the deepdiscount sale. glad i decided to go this route, rather than waiting for the blu ray, after reading comments here, and this review (http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/02/13/the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition), possibly the most negative one i've ever read.

Yikes! I'm sticking with my Synapse DVD.

[ReelFear]

Glad I waited for the reviews before buying.
I'll stick with my DVD and be happy.

[Katatonia]

Ugh... what the hell did they do, just upconvert the 8-year-old transfer and add DNR? :eek2:

I have one coming on Wednesday from Barnes & Noble, but thankfully it was FREE thanks to that 3-for-2 sale they recently had. Ah well, at least it was free.

If anyone wants it (after it gets here of course), I'll sell it unopened for $12 shipped 1st class in the US + include a bonus random horror DVD.

[SaviniFan]

Man, it's a sad day when an 8 year old DVD outclasses the transfer on a new blu-ray. Guess I'll just buy Synapse's DVD off of Don's table at the upcoming Cinema Wasteland. I doubt this movie will get another shot at the blu-ray format.

[Chomp]

Dodged a bullet with this one...had this in my shopping cart many times but never pulled the trigger with it. At least its not an expensive disc....I read on the bluray.com forums that some chick in Germany bought 35 copies...eeeesh.

Also the producer is over there defending the quality of the transfer...poor little fella.


EDIT: Oh man, that thread over there is getting good. Don May's putting an offer on the table to do this blu the right way.

[X-human]

That's interesting that Don May offered their services when we original heard this:Hi. I'm the producer/owner of The Deadly Spawn. I moved the rights from Synapse to Elite because I wanted a Blu-Ray release.

Which implies Synapse passed on it. I'm guessing Synapse made an offer Ted didn't like. Elite probably wanted to steal him from Don because of their rivalry and made a much better sounding offer.

The quality should be fine. We shot on so many 16mm stocks that it's tough to remove grain and scratches without spending a small fortune.

Which is funny because I can see from the screenshots that they did DNR and EE on the film blemishes. Making them just smeary blemishes.

Hopefully Arrow will take Don up on the offer if Ted doesn't. Even the original scan Synapse did with DVD in mind would be better at its native resolution.

[Kolpitz]

I'm pretty pissed that I sold off my DVD already. I've been selling off my DVDs anytime a Blu-ray is announced. I think I'll stop doing that. Congratulation, Elite, you broke me.

[Katatonia]

I'm pretty pissed that I sold off my DVD already. I've been selling off my DVDs anytime a Blu-ray is announced. I think I'll stop doing that. Congratulation, Elite, you broke me.

I never, ever sell my old DVD's off before the Blu-ray comes out for this reason alone. The Blu-ray might be missing something, the film might be cut/edited or digitally manipulated in some odd way, or just plain old have a crappy transfer like this example.

I should have known a long dormant studio's first Blu-ray would be crap. At least I didn't waste any money getting it for free, and I'll even make a few bucks back selling it...so lesson learned.

[Bluenoser]

I had ordered this through Axel, but it was back-ordered. I just cancelled it. Thanks for passing that review along.

[fattyjoe37]

Sucks about the video quality. I already have the excellent Synapse DVD so I was more interested in the new video bonus features. It looks like Arrow's UK DVD (http://www.arrowfilms.co.uk/index.php?c=y&tle_id=591&v=) will feature the TV interviews with filmmakers, along with an interview with SFX director John Dods that doesn't appear to be available anywhere else. Once reviews of this version come out and confirm whether or not all the TV footage included on the Elite disc is there I'll know which version I want to buy.

Of course I can also wait and see how this Synapse business goes. I'd much rather go in for a Blu from them featuring all of the Elite bonus materials.

[Nailwraps]

Blu-ray.com review:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Deadly-Spawn-Blu-ray/28538/#Review

[bigdaddyhorse]

Wow. For a second I was mad I found the dvd at a pawn shop a few weeks before the BD was announced. After reading those 2 reviews, I'm happy as hell I got that dvd! Cross this off the list of things to upgrade.

[Katatonia]

Another negative review: http://www.blu-raydefinition.com/reviews/the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition-blu-ray-review.html

[Robert Simandl]

After all the comments and reviews on blu-ray.com, I'm not even bothering to open mine. Back to Amazon it goes, and I'm ordering the 8-year-old DVD instead.

[Shawn Francis]

Looks like Ted wants his movie to look better. He made this post on Blu-Ray Forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=5851945&postcount=225): "Announcement #1 We are testing right now with a transfer directly from the negative. We should have test disks within a week or so. Don't ask anything else yet as I'll post when I have more info."

[Chomp]

Looks like Ted wants his movie to look better. He made this post on Blu-Ray Forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=5851945&postcount=225): "Announcement #1 We are testing right now with a transfer directly from the negative. We should have test disks within a week or so. Don't ask anything else yet as I'll post when I have more info."

Unless the Synapse logo is plastered on the cover art, I ain't touching this. It's quite clear Elite hasn't a clue as to what the hell they are doing.

[Katatonia]

Looks like Ted wants his movie to look better. He made this post on Blu-Ray Forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=5851945&postcount=225): "Announcement #1 We are testing right now with a transfer directly from the negative. We should have test disks within a week or so. Don't ask anything else yet as I'll post when I have more info."

Why didn't they strike the transfer from the negative in the first place? :eek2:

It's pretty obvious they simply sourced the 8+ year old transfer and applied multiple forms of digital manipulation, and it ended up looking worse than the old DVD.

[Mikey Horror]

I just want to know if there's going to be an exchange program put into place for those (like myself) who purchased this piece of shit.

[Drinkinstein]

Second that! Sold my synapse DVD off too early...

[napalm baby]

Yes I brought the lump of SHIT as well , I would like an exchange please :mad:

[delicreep]

Why didn't they strike the transfer from the negative in the first place? :eek2:

My thoughts exactly.

[JGrendel]

Cause then they would have to spend money on a decent transfer, where as if they just upconvert it they can make money!!!!

[elDomenechHDG]

Cause then they would have to spend money on a decent transfer, where as if they just upconvert it they can make money!!!!

I will not be buying any more versions of this movie. It's not even that good.

[Robert Simandl]

I read the reviews before opening my copy, sent it back to Amazon unopened for a refund, and bought the Synapse DVD instead. This new blu they're hinting at better look as good as The Ten Commandments before I spend another dime.

[X-human]

A promising look at the new transfer: http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/03/09/the-deadly-spawn-blu-ray-update/

[Zombie Dude]

A promising look at the new transfer: http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/03/09/the-deadly-spawn-blu-ray-update/

That's fantastic. It's definitely more bright and vivid than the Synapes dvd transfer. Looks like this will be the release to get when it comes out.

[Drinkinstein]

Looks good, I just hope there's some kind of replacement program for those of us stuck with the terrible first release.

[Dobby]

So they just released this on blu ray & there is already another version in the works wtf?

[Zombie Dude]

So they just released this on blu ray & there is already another version in the works wtf?

There's only another version in the works because the owner (possibly director?) of the film was incredibly dissatisfied with how the Elite blu looked and the response it was getting. This lead him to source out the original negatives to put together an actual hi-def transfer.

[Dobby]

There's only another version in the works because the owner (possibly director?) of the film was incredibly dissatisfied with how the Elite blu looked and the response it was getting. This lead him to source out the original negatives to put together an actual hi-def transfer.

So you will have to triple dip on this film pffft F that!

[Zombie Dude]

So you will have to triple dip on this film pffft F that!

Nope, because I thankfully didn't get stung with that piece of shit Elite put out. I'll be getting the new restored version :)

[Dobby]

Nope, because I thankfully didn't get stung with that piece of shit Elite put out. I'll be getting the new restored version :)

Oh dude Elite, Echo Bridge, Milcreek, Miramax-Lionsgate etc. all mostly garbage. Though the Evil Dead 2 blu released by Lionsgate was very good. These companies are mostly shit with they're upconverted DNR crap.

[Katatonia]

Looks good, I just hope there's some kind of replacement program for those of us stuck with the terrible first release.

Slim chance probably, unless it's going to be Elite releasing it again. I never even opened mine, and sold it...making a few extra bucks even.

I'll wait for some solid positive reviews before I buy another Blu-ray release of the film.

[Kolpitz]

Oh dude Elite, Echo Bridge, Milcreek, Miramax-Lionsgate etc. all mostly garbage. Though the Evil Dead 2 blu released by Lionsgate was very good. These companies are mostly shit with they're upconverted DNR crap.

The Miramax / Lionsgate releases have all been solid, with quite a few being excellent. I haven't had any problems with them.

[Jeremy]

There's only another version in the works because the owner (possibly director?) of the film was incredibly dissatisfied with how the Elite blu looked and the response it was getting. This lead him to source out the original negatives to put together an actual hi-def transfer.

To put this a little more clearly, the owner/director was perfectly fine with the transfer (and repeatedly defended it) until people started bitching about it wholesale and posting that they were returning their copies unopened. Then suddenly he seemed to get religion and decide that a new transfer was just what was needed. Don May claims that the reason he moved the rights to Elite was because he wanted to make more money on the property, so obviously if people were returning their copies en mass that was never going to work!

[Zombie Dude]

To put this a little more clearly, the owner/director was perfectly fine with the transfer (and repeatedly defended it) until people started bitching about it wholesale and posting that they were returning their copies unopened. Then suddenly he seemed to get religion and decide that a new transfer was just what was needed. Don May claims that the reason he moved the rights to Elite was because he wanted to make more money on the property, so obviously if people were returning their copies en mass that was never going to work!

There you go. I didn't know the whole story. That also explains why people are still skeptical of this new transfer. Still, I can't imagine it being worse.

[Katatonia]

Here's an update on the new transfer: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=5919475&postcount=252

Well, after doing a bunch of tests, I'm just not happy with the grain situation. Some scenes are fantastic, but others are so-so. I know most of you here say you don't mind grain...but I hate it. Still tryin' stuff...I'll keep yuz posted....http://forum.blu-ray.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Err... yeah, I'm definitely gonna wait for some solid reviews first if this ever gets re-released.

[X-human]

Two steps forward, two steps back.

[Zombie Dude]

Two steps forward, two steps back.

Don't worry. The people on Bluray.com forum are all saying that no one likes a waxy image and that grain is fine, so hopefully he uses that advise.

[zbinks]

Revised edition forthcoming

Ok...I'm getting more news today or tomorrow, but this is what I know now.
The new release date is October 23rd, BUT, the new copies will be sent to the distributors within 10 days.
All the original copies at MVD and Elite have been destroyed. There are still a few copies left out there at various distributors. (very few as most sold out)
If you want to be sure you're getting the new version, just order from SEEOFSOUND.COM ...that is MVD's website and they will only be sending the new version. You can tell it's the new version by the intro. I did it on my deck instead of in a dark room!
If you want to return the version you have...first send it back as defective from where you got it. (there is one white frame at the end, so you say there is a flash if asked) If, for some reason, you can't return it there, in 2 weeks, send it back directly to Elite. lol...then I will take these copies and sell them at conventions as a premium collector item. Also, when someone brings this original version to a convention I'm at...I have freebies for them.
I had this new copy screened next to the Synapse version and it looked better. I'll wait to see what some of you have to say when you screen it. There is still grain in the beginning and in a few places....I'm sure that makes you happy.
Well, that's it until I get more info including the specs.
Thanks for your support. We're still working on the comic book and probably a sequel (maybe a Kickstarter thing!) Thanks also for all your private emails and kind comments. (you know who you are!) I know there are a lot of jerks out there, but don't worry, they don't bother me.---T

Credit: Blu-Ray.com: The Deadly Spawn - February 7, 2012 (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=6259876#post6259876)

[fattyjoe37]

This seems like a really lame way of replacing disks. Return them once the new edition is in stock. What about the people who bought it months ago? You can't just return things whenever you want :)

[zbinks]

This seems like a really lame way of replacing disks. Return them once the new edition is in stock. What about the people who bought it months ago? You can just return things whenever you want :)

Hi.
First try to return to Amazon. I'll find out the return details soon.
If you just want to get the new version...either wait a few weeks and order from Amazon, etc...or go to SEEOFSOUND.COM and order now. They will only send the new copy. As I find out more, I'll post.

Yes Mar3o...if Amazon won't let you make a return. (I have made returns after quite a while...I buy Blu-Rays and sometimes don't look at them for a month or more...if they are defective, I return them)
Anyway, if that is the case, just wait a few weeks and send it to Elite Ent. They will send out a new one.
Thanks.---T

He doesn't have full return details available yet from Elite. I'm pretty sure retailers like Amazon won't take returns on an item that was purchased over 8 months ago, regardless of how legitimate your reasoning is. I can only imagine that there would have to be some sort of return plan on Elite's part forthcoming.

[Katatonia]

I had this new copy screened next to the Synapse version and it looked better. I'll wait to see what some of you have to say when you screen it. There is still grain in the beginning and in a few places....I'm sure that makes you happy.

:lol: There's still some grain? Uh-huh. I'll wait and hear some reviews before I even think of buying this "updated" Blu-ray.

[napalm baby]

I got an email this morning to say my new transfer of The Deadly Spawn as shipped from the USA to replace my shoddy Elite blu ray :banana:

[Mikey Horror]

Is there an exchange program in place for this cause I bought the first piece of shit.

[Dobby]

Where exactly is this new version link anyone?

[zbinks]

Is there an exchange program in place for this cause I bought the first piece of shit.

Ted Bohus, the producer, posted this on bluray.com.

Also ask here about returns...
http://www.elitedisc.com/xcart/customer/contact-us.php

Unfortunately, he hasn't posted any additional details. The thread can be located here (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=180476&page=19).


Where exactly is this new version link anyone?

Ted Bohus also posted the following on bluray.com.

Hi dsman71 ! Just go to SEEOFSOUND.COM
They only have the new version.---t

Here's the link.

http://seeofsound.com/p.php?s=EE7729

[Katatonia]

Here's the link.

http://seeofsound.com/p.php?s=EE7729

It looks like it's a pre-order at various sites for late October also.

I'll definitely wait for some screen shots and reviews first though. His comment not long ago on another forum of something like "it still has some grain" on the new transfer wasn't exactly promising.

[Dobby]

It looks like it's a pre-order at various sites for late October also.

I'll definitely wait for some screen shots and reviews first though. His comment not long ago on another forum of something like "it still has some grain" on the new transfer wasn't exactly promising.

How can you tell apart from the recently released version? From the new new re-released version how do you tell which is which?

[Katatonia]

How can you tell apart from the recently released version? From the new new re-released version how do you tell which is which?

Beats me. That link above (http://seeofsound.com/p.php?s=EE7729) lists the same exact UPC code as the original release...

[zbinks]

It looks like it's a pre-order at various sites for late October also.

I'll definitely wait for some screen shots and reviews first though. His comment not long ago on another forum of something like "it still has some grain" on the new transfer wasn't exactly promising.

Amazon.com doesn't have a new listing, but the original listing is listed as temporarily out of stock (http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Spawn-Millennium-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B005IGVTE2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347084327&sr=8-2&keywords=deadly+spawn).

I'm guessing their new stock (if and when they ever get any) will probably be the revised edition once they receive new stock, but under the old listing.

I agree completely on playing the waiting game on this, though. Elite Entertainment is simply not a company I would trust anymore, sight unseen. Their website hasn't been updated since late 2007 and I think their last marginally high-profile release would've been Splatter University in 2006. Their imdb (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0019190/) listing shows that they've done some stuff in the meantime, but I kind of doubt there are any hidden gems in there.

[Katatonia]

Amazon.com doesn't have a new listing, but the original listing is listed as temporarily out of stock (http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Spawn-Millennium-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B005IGVTE2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347084327&sr=8-2&keywords=deadly+spawn).

I didn't check Amazon, but a couple of online stores like Overstock.com (http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/The-Deadly-Spawn-Millennium-Edition-Blu-ray-Disc/6368595/product.html?cid=202290&kid=9553000357392&track=pspla&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}) are showing it as a 10/23/12 pre-order. Buy.com also had it listed as such, but it's gone back to just "backordered" there now.

[X-human]

It's the same Synapse transfer without as much DNR applied: http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/09/10/same-as-it-ever-was-the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition-again/

"Upscale" is probably an overstatement on this but compared to the original screenshot Ted provided this is clearly underwhelming. I'm glad I held off on both and would rather have my PS3 upscale the DVD for now.

[Katatonia]

It's the same Synapse transfer without as much DNR applied: http://wtf-film.com/site/2012/09/10/same-as-it-ever-was-the-deadly-spawn-millennium-edition-again/

"Upscale" is probably an overstatement on this but compared to the original screenshot Ted provided this is clearly underwhelming. I'm glad I held off on both and would rather have my PS3 upscale the DVD for now.

Lame. Based on those screengrabs, I'll just stick with the Synapse DVD.

And it's a Progressive encode, but shows bad Interlacing artifacts? That's strange.

The new Blu-ray certainly looks better than the original Blu-ray, which wouldn't take much, but it's still hardly any improvement over the Synapse DVD.

[Kolpitz]

I guess, at this point, I'll just rebuy the Synapse DVD.

[Zombie Dude]

Yea what a load of shit. A second time around and they still manage to fuck it up. Looks the the dvd is the way to go at this point.

[Katatonia]

It looks like they've now added a bunch more screengrabs at that above link.

Some of those look decent... but geez some of that interlacing (http://wtf-film.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screenshot-title00.mkv-73.jpg) looks terrible. It's very noticeable in many of those grabs, WTF? That shit wasn't on the old Synapse DVD.

This isn't a true Progressive transfer at all, just consider it Interlaced.

[fceurich39]

not gonna even bother trading in my elite blu then i already have the synapse dvd as well

[X-human]

not gonna even bother trading in my elite blu then i already have the synapse dvd as well

If I already had the old Elite Blu-ray I'd go for the exchange program for two reasons:

1) It is technically a better transfer. For free you might as well upgrade to it.
2) It'll cost Elite more money and I'd like to stick it to them.

I almost feel bad when I get replacements from companies I like so it'd feel real good to stick it to one that I don't like.

[Katatonia]

If I already had the old Elite Blu-ray I'd go for the exchange program for two reasons:

1) It is technically a better transfer. For free you might as well upgrade to it.
2) It'll cost Elite more money and I'd like to stick it to them.

I almost feel bad when I get replacements from companies I like so it'd feel real good to stick it to one that I don't like.

I wonder how much of this is actually Elite's fault. It sounds more like this Ted guy was completely supervising the transfer and encoding. I could be wrong and I'm not really trying to defend Elite, but it seems strange since many of their DVD transfers, etc. were pretty solid.

I mean for a studio that are a shadow of their former self, why would they botch the corrected release? From what this Ted guy has posted on forums, it seems like he has absolutely no clue about how to supervise a proper HD transfer.

[Jeremy]

I do wonder if Ted Bohus is facing foreclosure on his home, or if he is dealing with mounting medical bills from a loved one's struggle with an expensive disease. Certainly his behavior so far indicates that he's trying to milk this property for all it's worth while expending as little as possible, and if he doesn't have money problems then the only other reasonable explanation is that he's just a greedy motherfucker.

[zbinks]

I wonder how much of this is actually Elite's fault. It sounds more like this Ted guy was completely supervising the transfer and encoding. I could be wrong and I'm not really trying to defend Elite, but it seems strange since many of their DVD transfers, etc. were pretty solid.

I mean for a studio that are a shadow of their former self, why would they botch the corrected release? From what this Ted guy has posted on forums, it seems like he has absolutely no clue about how to supervise a proper HD transfer.

It is awful strange that ALL of the publicity for this release was directly from Ted Bohus, and not Elite Entertainment. That being said, I'm not sure Elite's past reputation could still be applied to them at this point in time. Have their recent releases been any good? I've had a handful over the years, but Splatter University is the most recent release of theirs that I've ever purchased and that was released in September of 2004 according to Amazon. Elite had a respectable catalog of films at that time, but it looks like their catalog has gone from being a poor man's Anchor Bay circa 1999-2004 to being a homeless man's Anchor Bay circa 2012. I just wonder if the quality of their transfers has taken a similar nosedive through the years.

[Katatonia]

It is awful strange that ALL of the publicity for this release was directly from Ted Bohus, and not Elite Entertainment. That being said, I'm not sure Elite's past reputation could still be applied to them at this point in time. Have their recent releases been any good? I've had a handful over the years, but Splatter University is the most recent release of theirs that I've ever purchased and that was released in September of 2004 according to Amazon. Elite had a respectable catalog of films at that time, but it looks like their catalog has gone from being a poor man's Anchor Bay circa 1999-2004 to being a homeless man's Anchor Bay circa 2012. I just wonder if the quality of their transfers has taken a similar nosedive through the years.

Yeah, they haven't released much of any note since around 2004-2005. The last DVD I bought from them (Savage Harvest 2) had cheap coverart paper...almost like it was printed out on a home printer.

Like I said, I'm not trying to defend Elite, they may in actuality be as much to blame for this fiasco as this Ted guy is.

[X-human]

I wonder how much of this is actually Elite's fault. It sounds more like this Ted guy was completely supervising the transfer and encoding. I could be wrong and I'm not really trying to defend Elite, but it seems strange since many of their DVD transfers, etc. were pretty solid.

I mean for a studio that are a shadow of their former self, why would they botch the corrected release? From what this Ted guy has posted on forums, it seems like he has absolutely no clue about how to supervise a proper HD transfer.

Elite put their name on it. Twice. I'm more inclined to believe Ted's the one being taken for a ride. Maybe Ted did dust off the negative, did a test telecine or telecined a few reels and Elite said they wouldn't pony up the cash. So he went back to the only complete transfer he had. I'm not really trying to defend Ted here either but the original screenshot he provided had to of come from somewhere. I'd like to hear an explanation but I doubt we'll ever get a satisfactory one.

Elite's basically road on the coattails of Don May Jr. He supervised many of their early releases like Night of the Living Dead. They had a falling out and thus Synapse Films was born. Elite's never been the same since. Judging by the quality of Synapse Films since and Elite Films since it would seem pretty clear where all the talent and skill went.

[Zollman]

I go by the handle "Fanboyz" on Blu-Ray.com, and here is Ted Bohus' response to everything:

"Well, this will be my last post here. Too many jerks like Fanboyz that need to Get A Life! The people that really know me, know the kind of person I am. A..H....'s like Fanboyz, etc, I don't pay attention to because they are pathetic, hiding behind a website. Come see me at a convention and talk that way. Loser!
Anyway, after over 8 months of tests using the original negative, 16mm prints and other sources, we found by screening the different tests side by side, there was very little difference between the best and what we had minus the DNR. Sure, if we had $50,000 to do a total restore...Some of the high quality tests actually made certain scenes look worse. When all was said and done, we screened the 3 best versions on 15 foot screens and the one we have now was good. Better than the DVD. Not as good as some of the absolute best (and in perfect focus) scenes transferred from the original negative. This is the best we could do right now without spending a crazy amount of money. The films are doing fine and I'm still working on a sequel and the comic book. (3 books...prequel, DS and sequel) Also talking about a bigger budget version of the original Deadly Spawn. That's the whole story. No matter what, you can't make everyone happy. So good luck with your own films. Signing off.
Good bye.---t"

[Katatonia]

That's the best excuse he could come up with? :eek1: It's perplexing that he only admits this stuff after the fact.

there was very little difference between the best and what we had minus the DNR.

That pretty much says it right there...

[Zombie Dude]

Don't forget he's telling us all this after he released the second printing. This whole time we were lead to believe that this new version would be from an actual negative. What a scam.

[Katatonia]

Don't forget he's telling us all this after he released the second printing. This whole time we were lead to believe that this new version would be from an actual negative. What a scam.

The whole thing is just very unprofessional. I know that this is a 16mm film, but 16mm films can look VERY GOOD in HD if done correctly. This film will never ever look like Avatar in HD, but if you can't release a film in HD with the transfer done even half right...don't even bother with releasing in HD.

Does Elite Entertainment even ever post anywhere? They still have never updated their website in years now, and I don't know of a Twitter or Facebook page for them. It's really like they're the "ghost" studio. :eek2:

[Zombie Dude]

I don't understand why he even bothered the second time around if he wasn't going to do it properly. Heaps of people of Bluray.com where giving him advice on what to do to make a good looking transfer. I think it came down to money and he chickened out. Now he just looks like a douche.

I don't know if Elite still post anywhere or where they might post at that. If they're just going to let people get away with releasing shit under their name then I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

[Mutilated Prey]

Check this out yo...

http://blog.mondotees.com/2013/01/02/2013-a-record-year/

http://images.mondo.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/open-pink-vinyl1.jpg

[SickNick89]

Check this out yo...

http://blog.mondotees.com/2013/01/02/2013-a-record-year/

http://images.mondo.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/open-pink-vinyl1.jpg

I want that but I actually have the original release vinyl which I hardly play so it's hard to ratonalize buying another copy but damn cool.

[SickNick89]

Mondo needs to do a SLEEPAWAY CAMP LP. I'd pay top dollar for that!

[MorallySound]

Check this out yo...

http://blog.mondotees.com/2013/01/02/2013-a-record-year/

http://images.mondo.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/open-pink-vinyl1.jpg

Will be ordering as soon as it goes on sale!

[Chomp]

That artwork is sick as fuck...what time do these go on sale tomorrow? I know the Mondo stuff goes quick. I'd love to get one of these.

[Ptflea2]

That artwork is sick as fuck...what time do these go on sale tomorrow? I know the Mondo stuff goes quick. I'd love to get one of these.

Too fucking quick. Some of their stuff is gone in minutes after it's released. And about half of it pops up on Ebay within the hour at an inflated price.

[Chomp]

I was fortunate enough for a distro located here locally to get me The Beyond as well as the Maniac OST vinyl they put out awhile ago. I think I paid around 30 bucks for each...still more than what I'd normally want to pay for a vinyl though.

I still wish I could find the Intervision collaboration Things and Sledgehammer VHS they put out though. I have the Burning Moon VHS and its pretty rad.

[MorallySound]

Deadly Spawn LP just went ON SALE! I snagged one.

https://www.mondotees.com/The-Deadly-Spawn-Original-Soundtrack-LP_p_721.html

[Chomp]

Yeah...grabbed one. Sweet.

[Dobby]

I still wish I could find the Intervision collaboration Things and Sledgehammer VHS they put out though. I have the Burning Moon VHS and its pretty rad.

I don't think there is much love for VHS on here though.

[Ptflea2]

Yeah...grabbed one. Sweet.

Glad to see this lasted long enough for me to snag one. :banana:

[Mutilated Prey]

Yup, they're still there. Glad my buddy sent me a note about it yesterday so I could pass it along to y'all.

This is actually the same buddy that gave me a new VHS of the Intervision Burning Moon. I already have the DVD, so I'll probably end up ditching the VHS when the price is nice - looks like it's already going for $50 - $100 :D

[Ptflea2]

Good looking out Mutilated!

[Mutilated Prey]

Yeah, I figured some of you guys would love that shit :)

[MorallySound]

I don't think there is much love for VHS on here though.

Wrong. There are a few of us on this forum that have a lot of love for VHS still. And that's enough! Hell, I've got a VHS tattoo and I'm in the middle of opening up a local video rental store that will be renting exclusively VHS (with most titles still not on DVD or extremely hard to find)!

[Anthropophagus]

Wrong. There are a few of us on this forum that have a lot of love for VHS still. And that's enough! Hell, I've got a VHS tattoo and I'm in the middle of opening up a local video rental store that will be renting exclusively VHS (with most titles still not on DVD or extremely hard to find)!

That store sounds awesome.

[SaviniFan]

Wrong. There are a few of us on this forum that have a lot of love for VHS still. And that's enough! Hell, I've got a VHS tattoo and I'm in the middle of opening up a local video rental store that will be renting exclusively VHS (with most titles still not on DVD or extremely hard to find)!

Although I think that sounds fantastic, I have to wonder if you'll even have a chance of pulling in any profit at all. You are talking about a very small customer base. You may want to do something online. Just sayin'. Of course, I don't know a damn thing about starting a business truth be told.

[Zombie Dude]

Got one of those cd's. Not sure I remember the Deadly Spawn having great music but at least I can sell it off if I don't like it.

[Chomp]

Got one of those cd's.

I hope your CD player has a turntable.

[Zombie Dude]

I hope your CD player has a turntable.

Haha, didn't even realize it was a record. Luckily I have one of those too :D

[lanemyer774]

As of about an hour ago or so via Mondo's Facebook

"Thank you to everyone who helped make our 3rd Soundtrack release a success. Only 20 Copies remain of THE DEADLY SPAWN original soundtrack LP"

Now would be the time to snag one if you're considering it.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Wrong. There are a few of us on this forum that have a lot of love for VHS still. And that's enough! Hell, I've got a VHS tattoo and I'm in the middle of opening up a local video rental store that will be renting exclusively VHS (with most titles still not on DVD or extremely hard to find)!

I hope that biz does well, I miss places like that from my youth. Best of luck to ya!

[Chomp]

I received mine (black...phew!) last week...pretty cool. Sounds great.

[Mutilated Prey]

http://gawker.com/5987185/terrifying-sea-monster-found-in-new-jersey-river

Deadly Spawn hits Jersey?