View Full Version : Screw aoril 26th, wanna watch jason x now?
rkellner
01-30-2002, 10:17 PM
Cruising around kaaza, I stumbled upon some people who claim to have a screener of jason x. I am downloading it now, so I can't VERIFY if it is real or someone's idea of a cruel cruel joke. Just thought that I would give a heads up, since I would have never thought to look for it. As for WTW, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS WHO HAVE IT?????
happy d'loadin
-kellner
gairasleftfang
01-30-2002, 10:55 PM
thanks for the heads up man,
let me know if its really jason x!!
DavidHess
01-31-2002, 12:44 AM
THERE'S SPOILERS ABOUT.....
Boy, I'm angry.....
...frankly, In it's current state I don't think it's really theatrical quality. "Well it's been released in Spain!!!" Fuck, they will release anything in Spain. You would be suprised at how many shitty American tv movies have been give foreign theatrical. New Line is probably a bit ashamed, and with good reason.
First of all, there's an unbearable level of adolescent comedy which runs throughout the film and really makes it impossible to create any real horror or suspense. I guess they figured that Jason on a space ship is an inherently humorous situation, but this film goes above and beyond anything you could possibly expect. Instead of a harsh, "Alien"-like film with lighter touches, we're thrown into 90210 meets Star Trek: The Next Generation: young, beautiful "medical students" being randomly dispatched by the usual hulking, pissed-off Jason.
That's all and fine, but throughout the film I just felt a great deal of apathy toward everything; Jason, the victims, the kills, everything. Most of the times Jason gingerly walks out from a corner, no musical stinger of any kind. The character gives a blank look and points. "Oh, Jason." Then he is quickly dispatched in about one of a few repetitive ways, either Jason throws the machete at the fellow or breaks his back. And since it's established right away that Jason can never die (his tissue is "regenerative."), the real drama of the moment seems lost for me, and none of the actors can really ask that one important question: "Is he dead yet?" Of course this isn't a question to ask between sequels but I feel that establishing a totally unstoppable killer totally takes that tension out of the film of whether the protagonists can kill that pesky antagonist Jason.
The film takes this point to utter lunacy, as Jason TRAVELS THROUGH A PLANET's ATMOSPHERE UNHARMED. It quickly becomes neither humorous nor dramatic nor suspensful. It's flat. It's DUMB. Any comedic intentions in the screenplay or otherwise went bye bye once film emulsion met light
With a film that ends with an unprotected human being Traveling through an atmosphere unharmed, there's obviously a great deal of absurdity in at play here. Of course, this absurdity masquerades as humor but it's a THIN FUCKING DISGUISE. This movie cranks it up to a level that makes Jason takes manhattan seem like a cinema verite masterpiece. For starters, I guess this gigantic high-tech space craft has no surveillance or trackings systems because Jason shambles back and forth as he pleases. Again, that's a gimme. The bridge of the ship is wide open; after Jason kills the first pilot, another moron happily shoves the dead guy away and then a few minutes later HE IS DISPATCHED HIMSELF(?). I think someone forgot to lock that door. And did I mention that Jason, WEARING NO SPACE SUIT OF ANY KIND, travels through the ATMOSPHERE of a fucking PLANET and we are to presume by the ending that he is most likely UNHARMED?????? What kind of fucking setup for a sequel is that? How the fuck are you going to fight a guy who went through a planet's atmosphere unharmed?
Of course there has been a million sequels, of course Jason never dies, but if there's no suspension of disbelief that Jason could possibly die then there is no drama. There's nothing. THERE'S NO FUCKING FILM!
With all due respect to the hard work of director Jim Isaccs, I simply don't think the film is directed very well. Most of his cast are newcomers who need the kind attention that he can't seem to offer; most of the time the people seem to be moving about their scenes in a daze. playing out their respective stereotype (sensitive guy, slutty girl, the smart girl, etc.). In the usual slasher film this is of course standard, and in the usual ff13th film this is a requirement, but this film again descends into even lower standards, just right above daytime Soap Opera level. And this is coming from New Line Cinema? Theatrical release????? This film makes any Scream film look like an in-depth character piece, trust me. And the ludicrous screenplay probably doesn't help either. In the end, I don't blame the actors, because again they should've had someone who could really guide them and not some special effects technician show can't even seem to setup shots properly.
As far as production quality, well, uh, Jim wasn't given much to work with AND IT SHOWS. The studio line is that the film was made in the 14 million range, but if that's so then I hope ten million of that went to David Cronenberg for his cameo. Seriously, I've seen episodes of Deep Space Nine with better production values. The "space ship" consists essentially of about five rooms, two to three corridors and some piece of garbage which resembles a bridge. Nothing too distinguished. Honestly, I think New Line tried to do this film cheaper than they're letting on, it turned out shitter than they could imagine and now they would rather have it disappear.
The movie also features one of the worst Harry Manfredini scores I've ever heard. It makes the Jason Goes to Hell soundtrack seem like classical music. It's like a bad version of some of the Friday the 13th: the series stuff. Bad Bad Bad Bad synthesizer work that belongs in direct-to-video. The big thing missing in this film is the usual Friday "stingers" which are few and far between. They're corny, they're tired, but Christ they WORK. When Jason appears in front of the lead in the first scene of the film it's done through one of most deadpan and boring rack focus shots in the history of modern cinema. No music, no suspense, just HEY THERE's JASON. In fact most of the opening is scoreless, almost as if the director chose to hack away at some of the more heinous Manfredini pieces. The first thing I would do the film is get rid of this score; fuck, give Manfredini or some other composer a REALISTIC BUDGET and do a full-blown orchestral piece. Or hire John Carpenter. Or Paul Williams. ANYONE. God, this score sucks.
I think NLC could definitely salvage this film, but it would definitely require extensive reshoots and a total overhaul of the score. But that's just my opinion from viewing a crappy mpeg copy. Maybe on a big screen the suckiness will hit me with much lighter impact.
aoiookami
01-31-2002, 01:21 AM
sounds like the rest of the friday series, young, pretty people getting killed by jason. yawn
Originally posted by rkellner
Cruising around kaaza, I stumbled upon some people who claim to have a screener of jason x. I am downloading it now, so I can't VERIFY if it is real or someone's idea of a cruel cruel joke. Just thought that I would give a heads up, since I would have never thought to look for it. As for WTW, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS WHO HAVE IT?????
happy d'loadin
-kellner
Old news, was posted in the slasher forum a while ago.
ParmagentoCheez
01-31-2002, 05:41 PM
jason sux donkey dicks. i love seeing all the 12 year olds at fantasy cons clutching their F13th and freddy toys/memorabilia. makes me glad to have taste. fuck this movie, i hope it tanks and they kill this fucking series. and the halloween series too. big ole donkey schlongs. :rolleyes:
Hokies5007
01-31-2002, 09:11 PM
I watched the trailer and i have to say that jason looks absolutely ridiculous in his new costume. He looks like some freaky alien thing.
KillerCannabis
02-03-2002, 06:43 PM
Fuck it, I'll still go see this flick cause I'm a huge F13 fan, thats right, its true. Maybe this film will suck, but I watch these flicks for one reason, the gore baby!! I just want to see teeny-bopper bitches getting their heads cut off. Thats enough for me. See you in line.......
ScaryMovieFreak
02-03-2002, 08:06 PM
I downloaded the second half of it and the trailer. I haven't been able to find the first half yet, at least not one that would work. From what I watched of the second half of the film, it looks like it could be a pretty cool F13 sequel.
If any of you find a working copy of the first part of Jason X, let us know.
You need to wait and see the film on the big screen. A computer just can't capture the true feeling of the moment. I'd know, since I flew to Spain back in November when it first opened. BTW, hearing it in Spanish was funny as shit.
My Jason X score: 7/10
Robbie
ScaryMovieFreak
02-04-2002, 12:12 PM
I'm still going to see it on the big screen. :)
ScaryMovieFreak
02-04-2002, 12:21 PM
Also, which Jason X first part works? I have one called "Jason X Screener" and for artist it says "New Line Cinema" and it's a .avi file. Though nothing will play yet.
dirkwu
02-04-2002, 01:27 PM
Wow! Great review DavidHess.
Regurgitate
02-05-2002, 06:37 PM
Heh.. Jason in space what's next? Jason in the 5th dimension? Jason 50,000 leagues beneath the sea?
Plexzol87
02-05-2002, 07:56 PM
I really loved Part 1 because of the very unexpected ending.
part 9 really sucked.
They even tried to save it with Evil Dead type stuff.
And ended it with Freddy.
Kill off jason, don't make him Alien!!! snuff him so he can die with what little dignety he has.
rxfiend
02-06-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by ScaryMovieFreak
Also, which Jason X first part works? I have one called "Jason X Screener" and for artist it says "New Line Cinema" and it's a .avi file. Though nothing will play yet.
do you have the DIVX;) codec? if not, that may be your reason why it won't play.
ScaryMovieFreak
02-06-2002, 11:46 AM
I finally got one to work. It was titled "(smr) Jason X Screener" and the artist was New Line. I had to wait on it to completely finish before I could view any of it.
stone88
02-07-2002, 01:35 AM
I don't care what anyone thinks, I liked Jason X. People talking about "not directed well" "no budget". Can someone tell me one F13th movie that had a great director and 100 million dollar budget? I didn't think so.
It's a FUCKING FRIDAY THE 13TH MOVIE, what do you expect? Yeah the project didn't have alot of money behind it and yes the cast is a bunch of unknowns. So What!
It's a really fun horror movie with hot women and lots of gore. In fact, I was very surprised to see how much gore was in this movie. One scene of the hot girl doctor getting her head slammed was unbelievable. Did I mention the girls are hot!
If you like blood and a really nice looking cast then I can't see how you couldn't enjoy it. Take it for what it's worth, a cheap horror movie just like the rest of the series.
I say kudos to the people behind this project. It was really fun to see Jason back in a new adventure and I can't wait to see it on the big screen.
rxfiend
02-07-2002, 01:42 AM
One scence of the hot girl doctor getting her head slammed was unbelievable
ya, that scene was great!
DavidHess
02-07-2002, 03:09 AM
I don't know, maybe I've grown out of the friday films. I remember when I was a wee little boy and my grandmomm took me to see Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives in a crappy mall theater.
I do not know much history, nor do I know much biology, BUT, gentlman, what I can tell you is that Jason X is no Part VI. That I can say.
Originally posted by stone88
It's a really fun horror movie with hot women and lots of gore.
Yeah but it's on a fucking spaceship. IMHO, something about the spaceship vibe takes away from that whole slasher concept.
And really, the "hot women" aspect also turned me off because it became downright ludicrous having these 90210-types hopping around the cheap spaceship set. It didn't do much for me personally.
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