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Jason25
03-27-2002, 05:43 PM
Great idea - love the Asian Films genre

So, What are some of your favorites?

I can't stop watching Versus, great film.

Andrew
03-27-2002, 07:35 PM
*cough*

ECHOOOOOOO

*cough*

Yeah, anyway, never seen any Asian horror. Is Biozombie any good?

Jason25
03-27-2002, 07:48 PM
Andy - buy it, you'll like it

Have I ever let you down? :D

rhett
03-27-2002, 09:16 PM
Sad to say, but I've never really seen any Asian horror films either, I've been meaning to start though. Evil Dead Trap sounds like its a winner, and so does He Lives By Night. Has anyone see HLBN?

K'
03-27-2002, 09:24 PM
K's Top 5:
Versus - Can't wait to get my hands on the german special edition dvd
BioZombie - Funny and cool flick
St John's Wort - Stunning visuals
Visitor Q - Not really Horror, but a very strange and sometimes disturbing black comedy
Nightmare - Mainstream IKWYDLS-style plot mixed with korean ghost story. Great score and neat visuals



Originally posted by AndrewBBD
*cough*

ECHOOOOOOO

*cough*

Yeah, anyway, never seen any Asian horror. Is Biozombie any good?

BioZombie rocks. If you don't need the english dub you should get the hong kong dvd from mei-ah (original cantonese language track and english subs), which offers an alternate ending.

DVD Connoisseur
03-27-2002, 09:25 PM
...Evil Dead Trap is just superb. The influences of European and American directors is obvious and it's a winning combination - part Cronenberg, part Argento, part Raimi, with a little Fulci thrown in for good measure....I love this film to bits. And it managed to scare me!:p

Wermode
03-27-2002, 10:31 PM
Biozombie is a fun film. The only problem is with the subtitles; I have to watch the English dubbed audio because the subtitles often make no sense...clearly written by someone with limited knowledge of English.

For a totally different experience, Evil Dead Trap is great, in a "Silent Hill" sort of way. Atmosphere is wonderfully creepy. Anybody know of other good Asian films with that style? My player has regions 1, 2, and 3 NTSC (no PAL, unfortunately).

Erg0n
03-27-2002, 11:48 PM
damn you I want for Versus too!

St John's Wort is also good. but I havn't seen anyothers you've named

TobalRox
03-28-2002, 12:08 AM
I made a mistake and put my reply to this thread in the other one :D oops!

Disco Stu
03-28-2002, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by K'
K's Top 5:
Versus - Can't wait to get my hands on the german special edition dvd
BioZombie - Funny and cool flick
St John's Wort - Stunning visuals
Visitor Q - Not really Horror, but a very strange and sometimes disturbing black comedy
Nightmare - Mainstream IKWYDLS-style plot mixed with korean ghost story. Great score and neat visuals





BioZombie rocks. If you don't need the english dub you should get the hong kong dvd from mei-ah (original cantonese language track and english subs), which offers an alternate ending.

I'm a big fan of Miike and want to know the best place to get Visitor Q for a reasonable price. I haven't seen it, but have high expectations. It goes for a little high on ebay, sometimes for as much as $40. Also, does anyone know if Ichi the Killer is available in any region? That was easily the most violent movie I've seen, passing Braindead, and any other movie I can think of, including other Miike masterpieces Dead or Alive and Fudoh.

I also want to say hello to everyone, as this is my first post on this forum. I post on dvdfile.com under the same name, so hello to anyone who either reads or posts there.

DVD Connoisseur
03-28-2002, 12:42 AM
Welcome to the boards!

Have you been lucky enough to catch Miike's Audition? I've put up a separate mini-review (spoiler free) on this section of the forum....

Disco Stu
03-28-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by DVD Connoisseur
Welcome to the boards!

Have you been lucky enough to catch Miike's Audition? I've put up a separate mini-review (spoiler free) on this section of the forum....

I did see it last year, and my girlfriend and I hated it. We saw a VHS dub from the original Region 3. It had atrocious subtitles that made the film nearly incomprehensible and very dull. The ending seemed especially phony as well. I believe that the same company did the horrid subtitles on Shaolin Soccer, Naked Killer, and another Miike, The City of Lost Souls.

Perhaps the Audition would be better under different circumstances, and I'm considering waiting for an official release. I still highly suggest as many people see Fudoh, Ichi, and Dead or Alive as possible. They're all Yakuza films with a mix of Clive Barker, Peter Jackson, and John Waters. Be warned of their extreme misogny though, at the opposite end of The Audition.

DVD Connoisseur
03-28-2002, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Disco Stu


I did see it last year, and my girlfriend and I hated it.

It's interesting how this film really splits people's opinions. Definitely a "love it or hate it" film. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

I think "suspension of disbelief" is required with Audition. The film really worked for me, though.

Disco Stu
03-28-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by DVD Connoisseur


It's interesting how this film really splits people's opinions. Definitely a "love it or hate it" film. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

I think "suspension of disbelief" is required with Audition. The film really worked for me, though.

We didn't hate it because we were "shocked" or "disturbed." The translation was simply terrible and it was a chore to sit through because of it. I'm not sure the movie would work a second time though, even if I saw it with better subtitles. It seems like the kind of movie you can only see once, like the original version of "The Vanishing."

DVD Connoisseur
03-28-2002, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Disco Stu


We didn't hate it because we were "shocked" or "disturbed." The translation was simply terrible and it was a chore to sit through because of it. I'm not sure the movie would work a second time though, even if I saw it with better subtitles. It seems like the kind of movie you can only see once, like the original version of "The Vanishing."


Yep, I agree - Audition is one of those movies that relies on suspense and mystery...when you know where the tale ends up, there's no point going through that very long journey again.

I doubt I'll be watching the movie again soon - but I'd like to watch the film with somebody else so I could see their reaction!
:D

Zandri
03-28-2002, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by DVD Connoisseur
...Evil Dead Trap is just superb. The influences of European and American directors is obvious and it's a winning combination - part Cronenberg, part Argento, part Raimi, with a little Fulci thrown in for good measure....I love this film to bits. And it managed to scare me!:p

If you buy this film, stay away from Dvdboxoffice, you'll be waiting for ever for it.. its been over a month for me so far and its still on back order.

K'
03-28-2002, 01:24 AM

K'
03-28-2002, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Disco Stu

I'm a big fan of Miike and want to know the best place to get Visitor Q for a reasonable price. I haven't seen it, but have high expectations. It goes for a little high on ebay, sometimes for as much as $40.
If you can play pal dvds you should get the german dvd of Visitor Q. It is a legit release from Rapid Eye Movie with the original japanese language track, english and german subtitles. Extras are a little short, since they only included the trailer. The picture quality is better than the bootleg.
You can order the REM dvd from www.charmes.de for ~25.00$ + ~8.00$ airmail to the us.
Originally posted by Disco Stu

Also, does anyone know if Ichi the Killer is available in any region? That was easily the most violent movie I've seen, passing Braindead, and any other movie I can think of, including other Miike masterpieces Dead or Alive and Fudoh.
[...]

As far as I know Ichii isn't even out on dvd in japan.
Originally posted by Disco Stu

[...]
I believe that the same company did the horrid subtitles on Shaolin Soccer, Naked Killer, and another Miike, The City of Lost Souls.
Universe did the subs for Shaolin Soccer and Audition, but the subs for the terrible Hazard City hong kong dvd were made by Mei Ah. If you really like Hazard City you should get the japanese dvd, it's picture quality is top, the english subs are better and you don't have to flip the dvd in the middle of the movie.

Lindane
03-28-2002, 08:40 AM
Takashi Miike is my hero!! Easily one of my favorite directors. He's up there with Shinya Tsukamoto in my opinion. Visitor Q kicks ass but is a little different for him I think. I got mine from Luminous, but I don't know if thats the cheapest place. There is a legit release of Audition out now. It's done by Tartan. Man, I'm so glad they finally put up this Asian Horror Section! Looks like this will be my new home. What's the scoop on this Ichi the Killer DiscoStu? It's a Miike movie right? Is it on DVD yet? Where can I get this at?
Anyways, some of my favorites are:
Versus
Evil Dead Trap
Audition
Fudoh
Organ
Wild Zero
Junk
Men Behind the Sun Parts 1 and 2
Visitor Q
Guinea Pig parts 1 and 2 (the rest are pretty corny, but funny)
Uzumaki
Battle Royale
Tetsuo 1 and 2
Tokyo Fist
Hiruko the Goblin
Gemini ( a classic)
Ring 1 and Ring 0
Dead Or Alive ( Easily one of the best Yakuza flix ever!!)
Shogun Assassin
That's all I can think of for now.

slinker
03-28-2002, 08:45 AM
My top five recently are :

1) Ring(youve seen the rest now watch the best!)
2) Audition(deep,intense and thouroughly absorbing!)
3) Battle Royale( riveting from the loud start to the bloody end)
4) Nightmare( great mainstream fun horror flick!)
5) Ring 2 ( some sequences that really spooked me, pretty confusing though!)

I have just bought `Kairo (pulse)` which im about to watch, and waiting for `Wild Zero` and `Visitor Q`

Asian Turkeys!

1) Horror Hotline Big Head Monster(doesnt cut it with me)
2) The Record(bad bad slasher flick...yawn)
3) Inugami(fantastic visuals and direction, shame its sooo boring!)

Asian Gross Out!

1) The Ebola Syndrome( youll never eat pork again!)
2) The Untold Story(seriously nasty ending!)
3) Anything with `Rape` in the title :p

Great new forum, its about time! :D :D :D

Disco Stu
03-28-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Lindane
Takashi Miike is my hero!! Easily one of my favorite directors. He's up there with Shinya Tsukamoto in my opinion. Visitor Q kicks ass but is a little different for him I think. I got mine from Luminous, but I don't know if thats the cheapest place. There is a legit release of Audition out now. It's done by Tartan. Man, I'm so glad they finally put up this Asian Horror Section! Looks like this will be my new home. What's the scoop on this Ichi the Killer DiscoStu? It's a Miike movie right? Is it on DVD yet? Where can I get this at?
Anyways, some of my favorites are:
Versus
Evil Dead Trap
Audition
Fudoh
Organ
Wild Zero
Junk
Men Behind the Sun Parts 1 and 2
Visitor Q
Guinea Pig parts 1 and 2 (the rest are pretty corny, but funny)
Uzumaki
Battle Royale
Tetsuo 1 and 2
Tokyo Fist
Hiruko the Goblin
Gemini ( a classic)
Ring 1 and Ring 0
Dead Or Alive ( Easily one of the best Yakuza flix ever!!)
Shogun Assassin
That's all I can think of for now.

I saw Ichi at an unreleased film festival at Lincoln Center in NYC last month. It is extroadinarily violent. Even if you don't take it seriously, or watch it on a comic book level, it is nearly impossible not to be emotionally unnerved on some level. It is an emotional pounding that goes on for over two hours that I would not hesitate to see more than 2 or 3 times. More brutal and savage than Battle Royale by far.

You seem to have seen Dead or Alive as well, did you see it in the theater? It played in NY for a month or so, and I've been waiting to get a DVD of it. I understand the German disc has no English subtitles though, although the film is entertaining solely on a visceral level, so I'm not sure that comprehension of the dialogue is entirely a neccesity. I loved the opening and especially the incredible conclusion, but the middle left me cold (except for the hooker drowning in shit). Sort of the George Lucas way of thinking, he believed that you only need to entertain the audience for the first ten minutes and the last five and they'll remember it as a great experience. The rest is all padding.

Note on Dead or Alive: Miike has admitted that the middle section is boring, he was going for a more realistic documentary style in that section. He also said that the script was based Michael Mann's "Heat," of all things.

For everyone reading this post, there is a great new book out on unheralded Japanese cinema by Patrick Macias called Tokyo Scope. I culled the previous paragraph's info from that book. The book has a lot on all kinds of Japanese cinema, Yakuza, Horor, Porn, Godzilla stuff, a whole section deidcated to Fukasaku, and many interviews. I bought one at the Virgin Megastore after meeting the author at a local video store where he was reading from the book. He suggested seeing "Female Convict Scorpion," which I immedaitely rented. It is probably the best film I have seen since Battle Royale, last summer. Image put out a fairly good DVD, especially considering it was thought of as a C-movie. It is in fact a terrific criticism of patriarchal society, under the guise of women-in-prison flick. It is amazingly acted, written, directed, and shot.

Oh, and I don't work for the publishing company, I was just impressed with the book.

Erg0n
03-29-2002, 03:37 AM
Asian Gross Out!

1) The Ebola Syndrome( youll never eat pork again!)
2) The Untold Story(seriously nasty ending!)
3) Anything with `Rape` in the title :p


I saw The Ebola Syndrome out of curiousity, and it definately was a sick sick sick movie, Classified as Category 3, I think. But since you placed that as #1 on your list, I'm assuming that the other movie is less sick

slinker
03-29-2002, 07:56 AM
Catagory III without a doubt,The Untold Story is very much in the same vein as The Ebola Syndrome..just with less body fluids and rape! (but only slightly)
The ending to The Untold Story is one of the most disturbing scenes i think i can remember in any Anthony Wong film, especially as it involves children :eek:

Lindane
03-29-2002, 09:41 AM
Discostu- That book sounds cool I'll probably pick it up sooner or later. This Female Convict Scorpion movie- It's on DVD you say? Where can I find it? I think Iv'e heard of it before. Do you know where to get a boot of Ichi The Killer from? It is Miike right? Is it a newer Miike flick?

Ergon and Slinker- I thought Ebola was actually kinda funny in parts. Some of it was pretty crazy though. Ebola and The Untold Story go hand in hand. I'd almost go so far as to say it's kind of a sequel. If you though that kind of stuff was gross what do you think about some of these:
Guinea Pig 1 and 2
Organ
Men Behind the Sun 1 and 2
Trent Reznor's (NIN) Broken Film--Anybody seen this? It's made to look like a snuff film. A masked man kidnaps some guy, pulls his teeth out, shits in his mouth, burns him with a blow torch, cuts off his dick and rubs his face in whats left of his bleeding genitals, and kills him. I allways thought that was really hard to watch. Iv'e got a friend who is burning my VHS copy on to DVD for me right now.

ParmagentoCheez
03-29-2002, 06:55 PM
great idea for a forum!

my current top 5....

-untold story
-battle royale
-organ
-evil dead trap (probably my all-time favorite)
-guinea pig #1 (classic!)


:D :) :D :) :cool:

Disco Stu
03-29-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Lindane
Discostu- That book sounds cool I'll probably pick it up sooner or later. This Female Convict Scorpion movie- It's on DVD you say? Where can I find it? I think Iv'e heard of it before. Do you know where to get a boot of Ichi The Killer from? It is Miike right? Is it a newer Miike flick?


Ichi is a newer Miike film, probably one of 22 he made in the last year or two. That's only a slight exxageration. I think he's actually made 12. I don't know where you could get a bootleg, but I'd suggest going to the Chiller Theatre convention in New Jersey next month. www.chillertheatre.com

Female Convict Scorpion is on DVD, it was released by Image a few years ago. It appears on ebay every so often (yesterday, for example) and there are a few on half.com. You could probably order one from buy.com or amazon as well.

suspiria
03-30-2002, 01:27 AM
Asian horror you HAVE to checkout include:

Ring 1/2/0 (yes, Ring 0 rules too!)
Audition
Uzumaki
Inugami
St. John's Wort
Evil Dead Trap
Bio-Zombie
Battle Royale
Hypnosis (available in R1 as "The Hypnotist")
Kairo (Pulse)
Organ
i'm sure i've forgotten a few more...

Anyone seen Cure?

Where the hell can I get Versus from!? I ain't buying it without English (Engrish?) subtitles... DVD or VCD will do for now...

DVD Connoisseur
03-31-2002, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by suspiria
Where the hell can I get Versus from!? I ain't buying it without English (Engrish?) subtitles... DVD or VCD will do for now...

I believe Versus is coming out soon as a Japanese disc with English subs... www.cdjapan.co.jp have it on pre-order.

DVD Connoisseur
03-31-2002, 12:27 AM
...here's the link:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=KSXD-24308

Haven't ordered it yet as I'm waiting for a review.

Lindane
03-31-2002, 10:55 AM
Suspiria:

I just got through seeing "Cure" yesterday at an Asian Film Festival in Dallas. I liked it alot. It did a good job at creating a cool and creepy atmosphere. It dragged a bit but it was definitely intentional witch I don't mind. You are left with a rather ambigous ending that will have you scratching your head a little.

DiscoStu:

Thanks for the info!

Sinister Ash
04-08-2002, 05:26 PM
I will have to highly recommend bio-zombie. The mei-ah disc has an alternate ending as someone has mentioned, plus it's probably cheaper than the mediablaster's version. Jordan Chan and Sam Lee are excellent in this film.

The Ring is pretty freaky so if you want freaky get that one. I haven't seen something that freaky in the longest time.

suspiria
04-09-2002, 01:36 AM
sorry to do this to ya dudes but get off ya asses and get "Kairo (Pulse)".. watched the R3 disc last night and was BLOWN AWAY.. this film is creepier and more stylish than RING ever hopes to be... i was really scared in many moments and that hardly ever happens to me these days...

i won't say anything more about it.. just get it, watch it.. again and again and let me know what ya thought..

Luna
04-09-2002, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by suspiria
...get off ya asses and get "Kairo (Pulse)".. watched the R3 disc last night and was BLOWN AWAY..

I just ordered this disc last night from DDDHouse! I also got Uzumaki, St. John's Wort, The Record (all R3) and threw in a VCD of Hot War for approximately $1.25USD. Not too bad, I say. I also went for the Benson's World sale and got Battle Royale and Audition. All in all, I can't freakin' wait for my stuff to arrive! Anyone know how fast DDDHouse or Benson's World ships to the US? *tapping impatiently* :D

suspiria
04-09-2002, 08:49 AM
both those online retailers are exceptionally good at getting goods to you fast... MUCH faster than Amazon even! :)

Luna
04-09-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by suspiria
both those online retailers are exceptionally good at getting goods to you fast... MUCH faster than Amazon even! :)

Excellent! Next on my list to get from DDDHouse is Nightmare. I was torn and almost bought A Lamb in Despair, Daughter of Darkness and Red to Kill, but I decided against them for the time being. I saw a thread on Daughter of Darkness, but has anyone seen A Lamb in Despair or Red to Kill? I would like to get them, eventually, just because they're so damn cheap, but I have this bad habit of buying DVDs in bulk and never getting around to watching forEVER. I figured I'd wait till I saw these 7 first. ;) :p

DVD Connoisseur
04-09-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Luna
I saw a thread on Daughter of Darkness, but has anyone seen A Lamb in Despair or Red to Kill?

My mini-review of Red To Kill will be posted soon. It's a grim little tale but I enjoyed it. Definitely worth a gamble....

Luna
04-10-2002, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by DVD Connoisseur
Definitely worth a gamble....

Sounds like it's right up my alley, then! I'll be anxiously awaiting that review! :D