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rhett
05-28-2002, 04:09 PM
Well, it looks like that uncut print MGM was supposedly using never materialized.

From DVDfile:
And if you were planning on buying that new Last House on the Left special edition, don't let the box art fool you. While the packaging may state "Never-Before-Seen Footage!", which is true, alas according to the full press release the film itself is presented only in its original R-rated 84-minute theatrical cut. All the deleted and excised scenes will be presented as part of a separate featurette entitled "Forbidden Footage." Other extras include an audio commentary with director Wes Craven and produced Sean Cunningham, as well another featurette, "It's Only a Movie." Retail remains $14.95.
This is sad news for all those Last House on the Left fans, like myself, who have been waiting for that uncut print for years now. Oh well, the disc still sounds like it will be great though.

Max Yokell
05-28-2002, 04:20 PM
Damn, I was going to buy an Non r1 version o this DVD with my last order from Diabolik and decided to hold off on it because of news of an R1 release.:eek:

thrashard76
05-28-2002, 05:22 PM
I thought I read somewhere that the film would always remain cut do to lost or damaged parts of the movie. In that case, there is little that can be done to fully consider it a true uncut movie.

DefJeff
05-28-2002, 05:24 PM
damn, im pretty disappointed in MGM after hearing this. especially after all the praise they get/got for "listening to fans" and "giving fans what they want" :mad:

wago70
05-28-2002, 05:49 PM
I'm sure the film will be fine without the extra footage - as long as they're presented elsewhere on the disc, of course. It'll be fine, you guys, I'm sure.

DVD Connoisseur
05-28-2002, 05:54 PM
...disappointed by this news but not altogether surprised.

Still, MGM may still end up releasing the best DVD version of this movie. I live in hope....

cjg
05-28-2002, 06:11 PM
What a let down I saw this movie when it was first released in a theatre back in the early 70s I saw it in its original form If you take out the idiotic cop scenes this movie in its original form in my opinion is the most disturbing film ever made Some scenes that stick in my mind that I have never seen in any of the subsequent video releases are Krug carving his name on Maris chest and the famous hurry up Sadi Im hungry to When I saw it for preorder at DDD for only 9.36 I new something was wrong But what the fuck I preordered it

hell ya!
05-28-2002, 06:20 PM
There will never be a true (91min) uncut release of the movie because there is no uncut print availble. The movie was cut and recut by different distrubitors and alot of fottage was lost. This release is somewhat uncut because many of the releases are only 82min long(that's the one i have). So even 2min of new fottage is still good to me. This is going to be the most uncut print availble. The rest of the extras should be well worth the $.

zombi3
05-28-2002, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by wago70
I'm sure the film will be fine without the extra footage - as long as they're presented elsewhere on the disc, of course.

But...were we not told that MGM had obtained the "most complete print known to exist" for this dvd? Not good news at all. There's another disc I won't be getting now. :mad:

thrashard76
05-28-2002, 07:19 PM
Uncut or not, it should be well worth the $$$...that is if MGM isn't dicking around with us like they are with Return Of The Living Dead. ;)

Black_Mandarin
05-28-2002, 08:20 PM
Well, although this is not 'the definitve' Last House release we all hoped for, it still sounds pretty damn good. And, lets face it, most of us fell in love with it in the rated form to begin with. And, there are still those other region prints floating around that may or may not have a more substantial cut if you really need it..... Strange that they have the 'forbidden footage' as an extra and didnt weave it into the film. Maybe the footage is in rougher condition so they decided to make it an extra? I guess I'll still buy it, well worth the low MSRP.

Dave
05-28-2002, 09:02 PM
Actually, DVD File is wrong. It's not the R rated cut. It's uncut at 84 minutes, whereas the R rated is 82 minutes. The Forbidden Footage is mostly outtakes. This has already been confirmed.

mysterX
05-28-2002, 09:05 PM
Once again, net rumors lead to nowhere.

I think everyone should hold off on cancelling those pre-orders, or you just might be sorry.

George Reis, over at www.dvddrive-in.com confirms DVDFile's news to be FALSE...

"MGM's disc of LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is uncut at 84 minutes and it is the unrated version. The cut version runs 82 minutes and DVD File's rumor of the DVD not being the unrated version is false. The "Forbidden Footage" that DVD File mentions is the 30 minutes or so of outtakes. So don't listen to village gossip."

and he goes on to say...

"I want everyone to trust me on this one, and relax. MGM's DVD master is the unrated, 1.85:1 version. This disc is going to be fab, so don't let those false rumors get you down. The road will not lead to nowhere..."

Andrew
05-28-2002, 09:17 PM
This sounds cool - all I've seen is the MGM Movie Time version. What new shit (in the actual movie) am I getting :)?

Hellbilly
05-28-2002, 10:03 PM
Thanks mysteryX.
Glad we will finally get that film unrated at last.

Peter Vincent
05-28-2002, 10:54 PM
....So what's in the extra 2 minutes that got people all riled up about?????

hell ya!
05-29-2002, 12:07 AM
These scenes are availble in the a 84min cut so i would think that they are going to be availble on this dvd because it is 84min but i am not sure. The scenes are:



In the scene where Krug tells Weasel to cut Mari with his switchblade, this version goes on to show a close-up of Mari's bloody fingers with the voice-over, "Phyllis, he cut me!". This version goes on to show a wet patch on Phyllis' pants and a shot of the two semi-nude girls holding each other.


In the scene where Junior pleads, "You're gonna kill someone if you're not careful...", this versions' scene has Junior continue, "...make 'em make it with each other." Sadie agrees, "That's a good idea!" Krug replies, "Make it with each other."


The chase through the woods is longer. The added scene shows Weasel and Phyllis facing each other on opposite sides of the river. Phyllis gives him the bird and screams, "Screw Creep!" Weasel's angry reaction ends the scene.


During the carving scene, this version contains additional shots of the sheriff getting out of his police car and walking.


The dialog between Weasel and Mrs. Collingwood during the fellatio scene is lengthier in this version.

thrashard76
05-29-2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Dave
Actually, DVD File is wrong. It's not the R rated cut. It's uncut at 84 minutes, whereas the R rated is 82 minutes. The Forbidden Footage is mostly outtakes. This has already been confirmed.

Thanks for the clarification Dave. ;) This solves whether or not I'll pick this up.

Originally posted by mysterX
Once again, net rumors lead to nowhere.
George Reis, over at www.dvddrive-in.com confirms DVDFile's news to be FALSE...

"MGM's disc of LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is uncut at 84 minutes and it is the unrated version. The cut version runs 82 minutes and DVD File's rumor of the DVD not being the unrated version is false. The "Forbidden Footage" that DVD File mentions is the 30 minutes or so of outtakes. So don't listen to village gossip."

and he goes on to say...

"I want everyone to trust me on this one, and relax. MGM's DVD master is the unrated, 1.85:1 version. This disc is going to be fab, so don't let those false rumors get you down. The road will not lead to nowhere..."

Good deal. A confirmation straight from the company itself. What are the full specs of this release anyway? ;)

DefJeff
05-29-2002, 05:38 AM
phew!

MGM i am no longer disappointed in you :)

Wez4555
05-29-2002, 07:12 AM
i think im going to email MGM...and see what they have to say stright from them..(even tho someone already did prolly).

Wez4555
05-29-2002, 07:18 AM
ok i just emailed them...so when i get a reply (if i do) ill post it right on this forum..

y2doublet
05-29-2002, 01:20 PM
Check out DVDFile. They confirm that it is the unrated international cut we're getting and that the press release DVDFile had gotten hold of was completely wrong. Dudes, you gotta learn to trust MGM more! ;)

On a related note, in September MGM will release the first season of The Outer Limits and two single-disc editions of the The Outer Limits: The New Series. That's so great! Anyone know if the The New Series is the one that was produced around 97-98 or if it's the new episodes that Sci-Fi Channel is running?

NickyDoyle
05-29-2002, 03:26 PM
Thank God it's uncut (well, as uncut as its going to be.)

Rock
05-29-2002, 03:41 PM
What about the infamous disembowelment scene? Is it included in the unrated version of the movie or only in the outtake footage? Whatever version I decide to (re)watch, it won't be easy...I had a hard time with this one the first time I saw it on video back in the mid 80's...

rhett
05-29-2002, 04:00 PM
I am glad DVDfile's report is totally bogus. It seems as if the only news DVDfile ever gets wrong are the one's about MGM's DVDs. :rolleyes:

zombi3
05-29-2002, 06:09 PM
Yeah, I'm glad too. I have an old Jap boot of the longer print and it's practically unwatchable. This disc should be good. Also, if I remember correctly, that disembowlment scene was on Jap print, so let's hope it'll be on the dvd.:)

KillerCannabis
05-29-2002, 06:54 PM
I've actually never even seen this movie. Just didnt hear about it when I was growing up so it slipped under my radar. I'm really looking forward to picking up the disc though, as it sounds to be a damn good flick and I love early Craven movies. When is Universal going to get on the ball and release People Under the Stairs?

thrashard76
05-29-2002, 08:26 PM
Does anyone have the specs and extras list for this release? I can't seem to find it anywhere. If you have a link or something, that'd be cool. ;)

y2doublet
05-29-2002, 08:30 PM
Try www.dvdfile.com or www.dvddrive-in.com. You might wanna scroll down a bit on each site because the news is a couple of days old. Hope that helps!

thrashard76
05-29-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by y2doublet
Try www.dvdfile.com or www.dvddrive-in.com. You might wanna scroll down a bit on each site because the news is a couple of days old. Hope that helps!

Thanx for the links. ;)

Originally posted by Wez4555
ok i just emailed them...so when i get a reply (if i do) ill post it right on this forum..

Yeah please do, incase there is something more to this dis-information from earlier. :cool:

Andrew
05-29-2002, 10:02 PM
I'll say it again - what's the big deal with this movie? Unless those 2 minutes make a shit load of a difference, it's not really disturbing to me at all. And I saw this before I'd seen any Euro-Horror. Hmm...:confused:

Oh yeah, I'll still pick it up though. Cuz I'm like that :rolleyes:

thrashard76
05-29-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by AndrewBBD
Oh yeah, I'll still pick it up though. Cuz I'm like that :rolleyes:

We are all zombies...in search of new DVDs. Can't wait to pick this one up. ;)

The Chaostar
05-30-2002, 08:27 PM
The disembowlment scene exists on the french anamorphic DVD so it's the least I can expect from the MGM release.

ALONG WITH A "COP-FREE" VERSION OF THE FILM! What was Craven thinking with those idiotic scenes anyway? Really, I hope their scenes are isolated so I can skip their chapters without losing the reat of the film...

Wez4555
05-30-2002, 10:16 PM
still no email! ill just take yalls word for it..thanks!

thrashard76
05-30-2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Wez4555
still no email! ill just take yalls word for it..thanks!

How long did it take to get an email in the past? ;)

stevehorror
05-31-2002, 12:02 AM
the disemboweling scene is shown on most versions but only a very breif shot of it.this disemboweling scene was shown in full on a film called CONFESSIONS OF A BLUE MOVIE STAR-THE EVOLUTION OF SNUFF.

Narshty
05-31-2002, 12:14 AM
From David Szulkin - fount of knowledge of all things LHOTL and producer of the disc (posted at MHVF.net):

"I produced the extra features for the disc and consulted on the restoration of the film. The cut of the film is not the R-rated version. It is the longer, European version of the movie, and represents the most complete cut of the film in existence. I worked with MGM's Technical Services to obtain this version of the film, and to ensure that no footage was omitted.

In addition to the longer cut of the film, the disc includes the long-lost disembowelment scene in its complete, raw form, assembled from never-before-seen dailies. Since the mag soundtrack was destroyed, it was not possible to reintegrate this footage into the feature program. There are also two featurettes on the disc: a 30-minute documentary, and another piece documenting the film's most shocking moments."

For $14.95? Bargain of the century, my friends.

Wez4555
05-31-2002, 01:40 AM
thrashard76: ive never emailed them before so i wouldnt know. heh

thrashard76
05-31-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Narshty
From David Szulkin - fount of knowledge of all things LHOTL and producer of the disc (posted at MHVF.net):

"I produced the extra features for the disc and consulted on the restoration of the film. The cut of the film is not the R-rated version. It is the longer, European version of the movie, and represents the most complete cut of the film in existence. I worked with MGM's Technical Services to obtain this version of the film, and to ensure that no footage was omitted.

In addition to the longer cut of the film, the disc includes the long-lost disembowelment scene in its complete, raw form, assembled from never-before-seen dailies. Since the mag soundtrack was destroyed, it was not possible to reintegrate this footage into the feature program. There are also two featurettes on the disc: a 30-minute documentary, and another piece documenting the film's most shocking moments."

For $14.95? Bargain of the century, my friends.

Thanks for the update dude. This version seems to be the best version possible. *....adding to buying list...* :D

Darkness Fear
06-15-2002, 10:02 PM
What the ?
Unrated, coo'.

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 12:53 PM
And now it's available for pre-order online, and CHEAP at $10. :D

http://tf.dvdplanet.com/productimages/front/25086.jpg

street date 8/27

gjkendall
07-23-2002, 02:13 PM
Is the actual movie the same cut as the Dutch version? (The cover reminds me of the People Under The Stairs cover)

There are shots on the back of the sleeve that do not appear in the movie.

I have ordered the new MGM version anyway, but was wondering if I should keep the Dutch version as a matter of completion.

Any help appreciated

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 03:22 PM
Oops! I better fix that thread title! Sorry gj, the dvd contains the most complete cut possible as stated by the dvd extras producer. Please read up just a tad to Narshty's post and you'll get the scoop.

As for whether it will be identical to the Dutch release, I got no clue... sorry. Maybe someone else can chime in here. :)

NMA
07-23-2002, 03:53 PM
Finally, the review arrived...
(I didn't want to post this as a reply to the previous thread since it may not attract attention)

From DVDFile (http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-video_5/lasthouseontheleft.html)

NMA
07-23-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by gjkendall
Is the actual movie the same cut as the Dutch version? (The cover reminds me of the People Under The Stairs cover)

There are shots on the back of the sleeve that do not appear in the movie.

I have ordered the new MGM version anyway, but was wondering if I should keep the Dutch version as a matter of completion.

Any help appreciated

Hi, I ordered both the Dutch version and (pre-)ordered MGM version. Could I ask you something? Can you tell me the barcode (UPC) number of the Dutch version?

SaviniFan
07-23-2002, 11:39 PM
My, my. The reviewer seemed quite disturbed by the movie. Someone should pass him a copy of Audition for a review. :p