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rhett
06-07-2002, 12:23 AM
Well, despite Martin Blythe nearly promising on HTF that the original theatrical art would be used for the later Friday releases (Part 7 & 8), Paramount has once again dropped the ball with their cover art. While I have yet to see the art used for Part 7, if Part 8 is any indication it should be rough:

http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers/jasonmanhattan.jpg

While it doesn't look as bad as the horrible art for the previous two films, it looks far from perfect. I don't get it, because Paramount has been using the theatrical art for almost all of their other catalogue releases (Footloose, Pretty in Pink, etc.). It is almost as if they want to dig at us Friday fans as much as possible.

I know getting riled up of cover art seems lame, but it just irks me when companies replace great theatrical art with shoddy Photoshop happy cover art. Columbia's Perfect disc ranks right up their with Paramount for worst hack job.

ctyner
06-07-2002, 12:30 AM
It could be worse.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000063URC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

:cries:

moogong
06-07-2002, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by ctyner
It could be worse.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000063URC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

:cries:

What pisses me off about the Silver Bullet cover is that in the movie, you rarely see the werewolf...why the fuck did they put it on the cover????!!!!

DefJeff
06-07-2002, 01:59 AM
like you said, its not as bad as parts 5 and 6's cover art, but damn, it is pretty shitty.

im pretty big on covers (dont ask me why, there is no logical reason) so i hate when shit like that happens

rxfiend
06-07-2002, 02:10 AM
i wonder what F13th part 7 cover will look like.

i'm hoping to see the word "UNCUT" on the cover of it!! :) i know it's a long shot, but it'd be cool if it did! i'd definately buy it for sure.

Wez4555
06-07-2002, 02:29 AM
ive said this so many times its prolly getting anoying. parramount is a bunch of cocksuckers. what are they good for anyway? i saw that they lowered there msrp of the barebones to $25...wow that nice too bad mgm is crankin out bad ass special editions for half that. jesus...they even made the full blown special edition of tomb raider cheaper...well maybe the same but still. why dont they just give up on life and shut down the place and sell there rights to someone who gives a shit. all they do is piss people off. sure they released silver bullet and going to release my bloody valentine...but think of what achorbay would do. just thinkin of that makes you realize parramount aint shit.

Wez4555
06-07-2002, 02:32 AM
well shit i got off topic and forgot about the topic. as for the cover it really isnt bad but id take the original anyday of the week. i mean its not bad as in not horrible like part 5 and 6.

btw what the hell is up with the cover of the "widescreen collection" box at the top? is it me or does that look retarded to be on a F13th cover? why dont they just stick with the original cover art? we grew up lookin at this art in video stores, why ruin memories?

rhett
06-07-2002, 04:37 AM
It is frustrating for collectors when half of the series has the "Widescreen Collection" banner on the bottom, while the other half has it on top. Not only that, but they are now being released in different colors (rather than all red like 1-5). I mean, come on, us DVD fanatics need to have a little visual consistancy to our collections! :D:)

Cujo108
06-07-2002, 05:58 AM
I agree with cytner. SILVER BULLET is a huge favorite of mine (much moreso than the awful F13 part 8), and the cover for it is one of the worst fucking covers I've ever seen! Simply pathetic. Also, the R2 SILVER BULLET had a director's commentary, but those asswipes at Paramount didn't even include a trailer on their damn version! :mad:

Agent Z
06-07-2002, 07:15 AM
Paramount has never had a clue.......so don't expect things to change anytime soon..........

<img src="http://www.horror-asylum.com/media/posters/f13_5.jpg">

Erg0n
06-07-2002, 07:20 AM
what do you expect from their art department?

They're like fresh out of highschool, and have just discovered the "CUT & PASTE" function in adobe photoshop, and they think it's the coolest feature. Granted it's the only feature they know, well that and gradient fill...

Beastus
06-07-2002, 12:01 PM
If you have a good color printer, visit www.dvdcoverart.com

IT's not the same, but it's at least something.

Fart Lighter
06-07-2002, 02:34 PM
it's not just the front of the boxes that suffer! Have you read the shit on the back of the box for PART 5 which blatantly states that it's Jason in the film, rather than being ambigous, like on previous releases?

Also, they've tampered with the pictures of the men in the masks on 5 & 6, so Jason has two cheek red arrows on the box of 6, and Roy's mask's cheek arrows have been turned to red ont he box of 5, as well as adding in the brow arrow. This shows that it's not just incompitence on Paramount's part, but that they've blatantly gone out of thier way to mislead customers. This from a company who were too stupid to even release the right cut of the first film.

I doubt I'll ever get to see FOUR FLIES ON GEY VELVET, DR TERRORS HOUSE OF HORROR ar any of the other great classics this low and despicable company own. Or HELLRAISER III, uncut version with the available extras either. Twats.

wago70
06-07-2002, 05:29 PM
Paramount is just PISSING us off! I am pretty disappointed in their DVD output - they seem to see DVD as a VHS equivelant. What's worse, that studio has millions of dollars...why are they being so CHEAP???
Since when is Menu screen a "special feature"?
As for their Friday the 13th cover problem - I HATE them for that...trying to make an older film look "new" and different. What are they thinking? I have not bought any Paramount discs since I noticed they stopped even putting the trailer on some of my favorites like Prophecy. I really want The Fan and Bloody Valentine, but I dunno if I want to support their product anymore.

Rock
06-07-2002, 06:59 PM
You think those covers are bad, you should see what they've done to our local amusement park, Great America in Santa Clara...the place has become a gangbanger's toilet...

crank
06-08-2002, 03:40 AM
Even though this all pisses me off, I'm still buying Revenge of Frankenstein in August.

crank

Fart Lighter
06-08-2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by crank
Even though this all pisses me off, I'm still buying Revenge of Frankenstein in August.

crank

I didn't even know it was due. Is anything else planned? DR TERROR'S HOUSE OF HORRORS i hope!

Yowie
06-09-2002, 05:59 PM
Their covers suck big-time, but many other big studios fuck up in this department too. I don't think we can ever hope to change their minds about this crappy modernizing policy of theirs. There are certain Paramount titles I just have to own though no matter what, like "Rosemary's Baby", "Marathon Man" and "Elephant Man". (-The latter doesn't even have chapter stops, not that I ever use them anyway.) And when they finally give us classics like "The Tenant", the Indy trilogy, and "Don't Look Now" I'll get those too. By the way, Revenge..." is also due on R2, and "Dr. Terror's..." is out in 2.35:1 ratio on R2 (Italian disc I think, but features English track).

rhett
06-09-2002, 07:00 PM
I thought Paramount did a great job on the Marathon Man cover. True to the poster, and just simple and effective.

rxfiend
06-09-2002, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Yowie
"Elephant Man". (-The latter doesn't even have chapter stops, not that I ever use them anyway.)


i believe that's because David Lynch didn't want the disc to have chapter stops. i think some of his other movies on dvd are the same way (thus people can't change the order of the movie and will have to watch it all the way through)

KillerCannabis
06-10-2002, 03:59 AM
FUCK Paramount. I hated the hack-jobs they did on F13th 5 & 6 and dont even get me started on Silver Bullet. Does Paramount really think that people want lame new cover art? My question is, what the fuck was wrong with it the 1st time? Is the new art supposed to give the film a "new look"? Fuck that. I want original art and quit moving the lame-ass widescreen banner. It looks bad enough as it is. Every fucking disc they release practically Is widescreen, so its not exactly an exclusive or something. Shit, now I'm so pissed I cant even write anymore.

Crow550
06-10-2002, 04:03 AM
Okay. I love all the Friday the 13th films. Yes their company sucks. But complaing and bitching aint gonna do crap! If you havent noticed they dont listin! So therefor complaing is out of the question. Also there most likey giving us crap covers. Because we have bitched so much. SO they could be pissing in our faces. Just be glad were getting the best dvd transfers! and the trailors. I am mad also that there are no extras. But all I can do is shrug it off. I will buy them once their price drops. Just be glad newline CARES! Because Jason goes to hell and Jason X are gonna be JAM PACKED WITH CRAP! Plus I think there will be a DTS mix as well as doby digital. So stop being sad and be happy. The friday the 13th films are what they are on DVD. Nuffin is gonna happen. If you still cant buy them because of the covers. Then there are always Video cd's! They work on DVD players and have the cover you love! Good tranfers and everything.;) All im saying is lets not beat the dead horse more than it is already.

Later!

CROW550 :)

You can find all of the firday the 13th video cds at many places just look! and their not bootlegs!

Fart Lighter
06-10-2002, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Yowie
"Dr. Terror's..." is out in 2.35:1 ratio on R2 (Italian disc I think, but features English track).

But the italian subs are apparently burned in, which kind of ruins it.

Yowie
06-10-2002, 12:37 PM
Strange that they'd do it that way, yes, that would certainly ruin it.

slasherfan
06-11-2002, 12:56 AM
One can only imagine how My BLoody Valentine will look (has nightmares about the minor mask on top and below it the casts heads copied and pasted all over it with a green background :()

DefJeff
06-11-2002, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by slasherfan
One can only imagine how My BLoody Valentine will look (has nightmares about the minor mask on top and below it the casts heads copied and pasted all over it with a green background :()

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ::: runs in terror ::

dcrw6
06-11-2002, 08:36 AM
Here's a post I made on another forum. I'm too tired to type it all again.Some parts aren't really relevant on this site, i.e Paramount posting on the board but it still expresses my thoughts on the subject.



"I wonder why Paramount won't post a single reply on the many threads about this issue? All I ever see by them is a reply somewhere else about what titles we would like to see (like our thoughts would matter anyway) or numerous posts about why they don't have the resources to do special editions (which is complete bullcrap). Look at other horror dvds by little "no-name" companies. Why is it movies like Basket Case or The Dead Hate the Living have better editions than (Forrest Gump or Godfather aside) anything Paramount's ever put out? Come on, people! FULL MOON VIDEO PuTS OUT BETTER EDITIONS THAN YOU! Do you know how low grade their movies are compared to yours? That's almost shameful.

Any Paramount movies I own are bought second hand, i.e. pawn shops and the like, so as the company doesn't get the profits and it's a cheaper price, which makes it easier to rebuy a better edition in the future if they decide to get their act together.

It's obvious that Paramount is ashamed of the horror movies they make. I was stunned to my core when I saw Graveyard Shift managed to score a 5.1 Dolby, Silver Bullet by comparison had mono sound. Every other company has realized how important horror movies are to their companies. For evidence just look at Warner's and MGM's slate for August. Every company has a major franchise that helps to keep them afloat:

New Line has Freddy and now Final Destination.

MGM has Phantasm, Poltergeist and now Jeepers Creepers.

Warner has Exorcist and now those William Castle remakes.

Disney has Scream and now Halloween.

My point is, Jason is Paramount's franchise and has helped bring in profits while their big budget movies bombed. Show some respect to your past and your viewers and release what every fan wants. This isn't a huge request, and many studios would have already done so, a la the Freddy and Omen sets. I don't expect a response to come from this post or the entire thread, but I feel a little better knowing I tried."


Here's a reply to someone else's post basically agreeing with me.


"Thank you for the kind words. Since I got my dvd player two and a half years ago, I've been so exasperated with Paramount that I'm disgusted with them. I've got no problems with any other company, except for Fox discontinuing most of their 2-disc sets. It just astounds me when I look at my ten-or-so second hand Paramounts and think how much better they would be if a different company had done them. Look at the South Park movie, one of the first dvds I bought while still a newbie. I remember the creators on a talk show telling about all the stuff they had to cut out to get an R-rating. My dvd has three trailers. THREE TRAILERS?
They can't even put a commentary on the disc so the director can at least talk about the footage. By the way, Paramount, I suggest you go look at Darkhorizons update today and check out the Orgazmo specs. This is a movie that was already NC-17 and still has an hour of extra scenes, not to mention the three commentaries and many assorted features. You should bow your heads in shame. I'm thinking of ordering three of these besides mine to give out as presents. I can't think of one Paramount disc that I'm willing to pay ten bucks for.

Sorry about the rant, but I'm a gigantic horror freak and have been since I read Firestarter in the third grade. It tears me up to know one of the of the most important franchises is owned by a company that doesn't give a flying turtle fart about it. Not to mention the other great films they own, like the My Bloody Valentine debacle in another thread. I pray that one day things will be righted, but as long as I have companies like Anchor Bay or MGM, I feel more comforted."

As Al Pacino would say "Who-ah!"

rhett
06-19-2002, 08:47 PM
Well guys, more bad news on the cover front. Both HTF and Friday the 13th Forum have been reporting that this is the new picture for The New Blood:

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3860859/1024501120364_7coverfinal.jpg

Ouch!

DVD Connoisseur
06-19-2002, 08:51 PM
A toddler with Photoshop could probably come up with something of greater artistic merit. Yukkk!

Yowie
06-19-2002, 09:41 PM
Paramount have really lost it now, are they joking or what ?. They must be joking. We all knew they never cared for the series - it's only one of their biggest hits on a worldwide basis, I would imagine - but this is the final insult as far as their Friday covers are concerned. (-My brother buys the series, he will not be amused.) -That cover is, how can I put it quietly; A BIG BLOODY JOKE !!!.

Agent Z
06-19-2002, 09:44 PM
Where have I seen this before? Hmmmmmmmm....................

<img src="http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/friday-box.jpg">

Yowie
06-19-2002, 09:54 PM
:D Excellent, ha, ha !. We've found them out !. Talk about recycling !.

rxfiend
06-23-2002, 04:38 PM
hey, the REAL F13th 7 cover has now appeared on cd universe:

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=4131579&cart=123050072&style=movie

much better than what was originally thought as the cover work.

DefJeff
06-23-2002, 04:42 PM
http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196428.jpg

still ugly, but better...i guess....

rhett
06-23-2002, 06:52 PM
Well, that is an improvement, but still a far cry from the original theatrical art. :(

Mark Relford
06-26-2002, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by MISSIONCODEZ
<img src="http://www.horror-asylum.com/media/posters/f13_5.jpg">

That's a cool cover for A New Beginning. Paramount should've used that one for the DVD. Hell, it beats the shit outta the original cover.

rxfiend
06-26-2002, 02:15 AM
some more Paramount dvd covers:

http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196493.jpg

http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196495.jpg

Andrew
06-26-2002, 02:30 AM
That MBV one is shit! AFD is good though, original video art (more or less) is always a plus.

Mark Relford
06-26-2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by rxfiend
http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196493.jpg

It looks like a Goose Bumps cover. The original Bloody Valentine cover was a classic.

hell ya!
06-26-2002, 03:36 AM
The cover art is not all that bad but it could be better.

rhett
06-26-2002, 08:35 AM
The cover for April Fool's Day looks pretty good. I am glad they stuck with manipulating the original art, but the red tint washes out the background characters somewhat. It would have been more effective if they used just the simple one sheet (what a surprise!) but this is definitely better than the others.

My Bloody Valentine looks pretty crappy and generic. I agree with Mark, the original art was classic, if anything I expected Paramount to stick with the original art on MBV over the other titles. Oh well, thank god for DVDcoverart.com

Here are a couple other covers. The Don't Look Now one is quite good, if you ask me.

http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196407.jpg http://cover2.cduniverse.com/MuzeVideoArt/196405.jpg

Andrew
06-26-2002, 05:28 PM
DON'T LOOK NOW looks good because it's (more or less) the originaly video art :).