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Agent Z
07-17-2002, 12:48 PM
Well, even though Manga's dvd release of THE CASTLE OF CAGLIOSTRO has been out for some time now, I just picked it up a few days ago to compare it to my old Streamline VHS (fullscreen) copy. And after two viewings of Manga's dvd version, I'm not quite so ready to retire my VHS copy just yet! Granted, the dvd is in widescreen and the colors are vibrant, but that is where the list of "pros" ends, and the scroll of "cons" begin. For starters, the original English dub has been replaced with a new one and, regardless of the reasoning behind creating a new dub, the new, sterile dub just can't compare to the original. Also, the inclusion of the original mono Japanese track seems like a bonus until one actually listens to it: the audio quality of the Japanese track here is simply AWFUL......drowned-out and muted.........you could submerge your speakers in a fishtank to get the same effect (No....don't try that!). And while the video has nice vibrant colors, it also has some grain (forgiveable) and cigarette burns (unforgiveable) in the print. In addition, the picture doesn't seem stabilized all the time and has an annoying jitter that is noticeable during the slow scenes in particular (1:16:16 ...the wedding scene...arrghh!).


The Bottom Line: If you don't have the original Streamline VHS copy and can't find a copy on ebay, then try renting the Manga dvd before buying it.....at a MSRP of $29.95 (I got mine for $19.00...still too much!)...I can't recommend buying it without a preview first, due to all the audio and video woes. Hopefully, THE CASTLE OF CAGLIOSTRO will get another, better treatment soon as most fans of anime want a definitive copy of this classic in their collection.

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Paff
07-17-2002, 06:24 PM
Hmm, yeah, I guess it could look and sound a little better, but if I'm not mistaken, isn't the Streamline VHS only available in English dub? I'm no snob, but I can't stand Anime in English. I'll watch it in Japanese with NO subtitles before I'd watch it in English.

Agent Z
07-17-2002, 07:47 PM
The Streamline VHS does indeed only offer the English dub. And while I hate dubbing in any form (animation or live-action), the original Japanese track(Dolby Digital 2.0) included in the Manga release is so muted and weak, that one might be tempted to just hit the mute button to get it over with.

There are other versions which I am looking into, including the Toho (Japanese track only) laserdisc. And the Buena Vista Japanese release, with complete film storyboards in synch with the soundtrack as a bonus!


Lupin III video formats (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/video/lupin/#e_dvd)

Hmmmmm.....maybe while I'm on a Lupin III kick, I should go ahead and place a bid on one of those rare Cliff Hanger arcade laser discs on ebay, that usually end up going for a couple hundred dollars.......:D

Cliff Hanger arcade laser game info (http://www.jmpc.com/Starcade/games/cliffHanger.htm)


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Cliff Hanger specs. (http://emustatus.rainemu.com/games/cliff.htm)

2D4EVER
07-17-2002, 08:07 PM
I always like subs better but some animes have great dubs. Such is the case with Castle of Cagliostro (and Photon:D). Lupin is one of my favorite characters ever. I think the DVD is alright. It's certainly watchable. Don't let anything hold you back from buying the DVD cause Cagliostro is a classic. One of the best Lupin movies imo. If there's a special edition coming to the US I'd definately get it but don't wait if you haven't even seen this great anime yet. This is just like the Wings of Honneamise debate. Yeah the DVD could have (and should have) been better but the anime is a classic.

Later all...

Paff
07-17-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by MISSIONCODEZ
There are other versions which I am looking into, including the Toho (Japanese track only) laserdisc. And the Buena Vista Japanese release, with complete film storyboards in synch with the soundtrack as a bonus

Great. All I need is someone else competing with me on E-Bay for Lupin LDs.

Actually, I've done quite well on E-bay, picking up several Lupin movies on laser:
The Legend of the Gold of Babylon (subtitled)
The Fuma Conspiracy (subtitled)
Die! Nostradamus (Japanese only, no subs)
Bye Bye Liberty (Japanese only, no subs)
Lupin TV Volume 3 (Japanese only, no subs)
Lupin TV Volume 4 (Japanese only, no subs)

I actually have a program to add subtitles to movies, and I have timed scripts for Nostradamus and Liberty. I just need a video card that will handle it.

Oh, and I did break my "No VHS, No dubs" rule to buy Lupin's Greatest Capers. That's a tape with 2 Lupin episodes, both directed by Hayao Miyazaki (Castle of Cagliostro, Kiki's Delivery Service, Nausicaa, Laputa, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away)

DVD Connoisseur
07-17-2002, 09:21 PM
...to visitors of that forum...

Junpei
07-17-2002, 09:52 PM
Not questioning your decision as a moderator, but Castle of Cagliostro isn't a horror film by any definition.

A great film, yes. A horror film? No.

DVD Connoisseur
07-17-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Junpei
Not questioning your decision as a moderator, but Castle of Cagliostro isn't a horror film by any definition.

A great film, yes. A horror film? No.

I'm 100% with you. As I've posted on the Metropolis thread "I know it ain't horror but it is Asian...as I'm trying to expand the Asian Horror section to encompass different genre, this is right at home over at that forum...."

I've already contacted Dave and am hopefully going to change the heading of this forum to encourage wider discussions on all things Asian (bullet ballet, manga, fantasy, etc)....