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mutleyhyde
07-22-2002, 04:11 PM
http://ferncanyonpress.com/vampires/images/london.jpg
London After Midnight reconstruction article (http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/printedition/ny-ffreview2791327jul21.story)

Now don't get too excited; this is a reconstruction, not a restoration. Using the continuity script and images from over 200 stills (not one frame of actual film has been rediscovered since 1967, when a fire destroyed the last known copy), Rick Schmidlin is attempting to present, as much as possible, Tod Browning and Lon Chaneys' long lost film "London After Midnight" in it's complete narrative. (Schmidlin headed the 1998 restoration of Orson Welles' "Touch of Evil"). TCM is scheduling for a Halloween night airing. No actual film of the movie has been located, so I'm still pretty skeptical as to just how this is all gonna work out, but on the other hand, I'm hoping for the best. Simply put, Chaney and Browning rule.

Hellbilly
07-22-2002, 05:21 PM
Isn't this the flick with that guy who got this "extreme" grin??

mutleyhyde
07-22-2002, 05:39 PM
Good memory Billy, especially for a movie you, or any of us for that matter, have never seen. :)

http://www.wallyontheweb.com/images/vamp2.jpg http://www.wallyontheweb.com/chaneyvintagepics/card.jpg

Hellbilly
07-22-2002, 08:19 PM
Ha! I knew it! I remember that grinning dude from some old horror mag.
Thanks for the pic mut. :)

ZombieDrummer
07-22-2002, 10:45 PM
Where is this going to be shown???????????????????

Hellbilly
07-22-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by ZombieDrummer
Where is this going to be shown???????????????????
Halloween night on TCM.

mcchrist
07-22-2002, 11:38 PM
This fucking rocks, I am intrigued at how they will manage this!

dvdasia62
07-23-2002, 12:34 AM
I read about this a while back on dvdmaniacs and I'm really looking forward to seeing how it comes out. :)

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 03:12 AM
ZombieDrummer, TCM is Turner Classic Movies, a channel on cable television. I have no idea if you guys get that in your neck of the woods. If not, hopefully after it airs, it will get produced on dvd.

And maybe a little late here, but welcome to the forum! :)

Yowie
07-23-2002, 02:24 PM
Hyde, I'm curious of your opinion on this. I know you don't have the answer to it, but is it likely this movie has survived and a copy (or more copies) are laying around somewhere waiting to be found ?. I mean, what's the status on this movie, is it considered truly truly gone forever to the dusty plains in movie heaven ?. I suppose it is, since they've bothered to reconstruct it this way, will be interesting to see what they've done with it. It's not entirely impossible of course that perhaps some old deceased theater owner, or long retired projectionist, has it stashed away at home. It's always possible, I guess. It's just difficult to believe it's really gone, but then again, so are many other silent films. :(

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 03:58 PM
but...

Hey, you never know Yowie. I mean, think about it...

As WWII breaks out, a theater owner or film distributor's son goes to war, leaving his personal stash of even then vintage prints left to him by his old man in storage God knows where, unbeknownst to the sons wife, who while he's off to war, gives birth to their daughter. The theater owner's son never comes home, and his wife lives on, still not realizing what's in the basement, or the footlocker in the shed... or wherever. Of course, when the old lady dies, she leaves the house and it's contents to the daughter, who has moved on to bigger and better things, but wants to retain her childhood home, and so rents it out. Years pass and pass. The daughter has her own kids, who she in turn leaves the house. Tired of dealing with the upkeep on the old house, they decide to sell, and in the inspection of the property and fixing up prior to the proposed sale, they find the footlocker full of not only a copy of London After Midnight, but other lost, legendary treasures. Any number of variations on the theme are equally as possible, and while it hasn't yet happened with London, it has happened with other lost films, just as forlornly believed gone for all of eternity.

Personally, I think it's out there somewhere.

Now, of course, that's all fantasy and conjecture; no matter how possible such a scenario may be, the fact is that the film just hasn't shown up yet. Add to that the fact that if a can is ever found, we have to pray the film inside isn't deteriorated beyond use. Best not to dwell on that untill something actually turns up though. Now, I can't remember the rediscovered "lost" films I've read about in the past few years that I've been loosely following the silent era films, but I do know I've read about a few, so they're out there. I'll try to look around and find some of the success stories and post them here. In the meantime, a good source you may want to check out for yourself is The Silents Majority (http://www.silentsmajority.com/). Film Quarterly online also has a pretty informative but short article on lost films here. (http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1070/2_53/59210753/p1/article.jhtml?term=)


And again, as to this reconstruction, the more I think about it, the more I'm interested in, even excited, about seeing what they can accomplish.

Hyde (keepin' his fingers crossed) :)

dvdasia62
07-23-2002, 06:06 PM
Excellent post Hyde! Hey, wasn't Edison's 1910 version of "Frankenstein" with Charles Ogle thought lost for decades and decade and then it appeared?

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 06:34 PM
http://lrsmarketing.com/adventures/Frankenstein/title.jpg

Oof! I just did a brief search on Edison's Frankenstein, and there is a bunch of stuff about it out there! I just scanned over it, and it looks like it's in the process of being prepared for release. It's only 14 minutes long, but apparently, it is "found" and complete. Thanks for bringing it up, as I have actually not seen anything about it before (and they actually even have a bit on it at The Silents Majority). :) I'll check it out more thoroughly later - gotta crash now. ;)

But I leave you with a few links to keep you busy...

Edison's Frankenstein (1910): It's Alive! It's Alive! (http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/LostFilms/PreservationCorner/frankstn.htm)

Frankenstein (1910) (http://rhs.jack.k12.wv.us/sthrills/frank_10.htm)

"LOST" FRANKENSTEIN FILM FOUND (http://lrsmarketing.com/adventures/)


p.s., thanks for the props Asia http://www.horrordvds.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif

mcchrist
07-23-2002, 06:44 PM
http://www.horrordvds.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6258&highlight=frankenstein+1910

mutleyhyde
07-23-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by mcchrist
http://www.horrordvds.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6258&highlight=frankenstein+1910

Dayyaammm! You guy's have already been all over this! How'd I miss all that? Sheesh, I musta been on holiday.

Thanks McC!

mcchrist
07-23-2002, 07:01 PM
Dayyaammm! You guy's have already been all over this! How'd I miss all that? Sheesh, I musta been on holiday.

Thanks McC!

No prob.

dvdasia62
07-23-2002, 11:01 PM
Yes, thank you MC for that link, I didn't even notice it. A lot of good these glasses do me! :)

Yowie
07-24-2002, 01:01 PM
Hi Hyde, thanks for the two info links. That was actually a pretty good story you told there, I think it would make a good movie. Well, a short anyway. Silent, perhaps. Wouldn't be surprised though if Buster Keaton already filmed this one years ago, sounds like something he could've done. -He'd had to leave out the bit about the lost film, of course. The lost family locomotive, perhaps. ;)

ZombieDrummer
07-26-2002, 11:32 PM
Blimey i have tcm!!! i will be watching that!

mutleyhyde
07-27-2002, 12:23 AM
Very cool ZD. :) I don't though. :( I'll have to beg someone to tape it for me.