PDA

View Full Version : Sleepaway Camp Survival Kit Packaging Being Changed.......


Agent Z
09-12-2002, 07:28 PM
From SleepawayCampMovies.com (http://www.angelfire.com/ma/jhvideo/sleepawayfront.html) , comes this update on the SLEEPAWAY CAMP Survival Kit dvd boxsets:

"If you currently have a SLEEPAWAY CAMP SURVIVAL KIT in your posession, you know you've got your hands on a Collector's item! But NOW, The value has just gone up!! Due to an issue with the AMERICAN RED CROSS All future SURVIVAL KITS will no longer be able to display the RED CROSS logo!! Anchor Bay will be releasing new packaging very soon for all future SURVIVAL KITS... SO, If you have one of the original SETS, You already have a Collector's item! And if you don't, go out and get one before they're all gone!"

Jog
09-12-2002, 08:19 PM
Can't have the Red Cross associated with Sleepaway Camp... imagine all the wacky mixups!

DefJeff
09-12-2002, 09:12 PM
damn, now even tho i dont like these movies and i wont watch em, i still gotta buy this, cuz it will bother me if i dont :)

oh well, at least that gives me a reason to keep it sealed :)

moogong
09-12-2002, 09:52 PM
Good thing I got this while Best Buys still has 'em. The BB in my area is out of the Survival Kits already. I guess they wont be getting any more until the package change takes place.

Shannafey
09-12-2002, 09:56 PM
I was just in my BB and they had a lot on the shelf.

Agent Z
09-12-2002, 10:20 PM
Maybe NOW Anchor Bay will take my idea to create a little camp backpack with dvds stuffed inside..........hmmmmmmmmm (massaging his chin in thought ala Homer Simpson)........

moogong
09-12-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Shannafey
I was just in my BB and they had a lot on the shelf.

I guess stock depends on the area and how well horror titles sell in that location. The BB near me does not get half the selection that the one 75 miles away does. There was only about 7 or 8 Survival Kits on the shelf the day they came out.

mcchrist
09-12-2002, 11:26 PM
There's a bunch of them around here, I personally could care less, but I'm sure I might snag a couple for ebay fodder.

thrashard76
09-13-2002, 02:30 AM
It looks like I'll have to be hitting the stores soon to find a copy of this before they sell out. I don't think AB was planning a limited run on this box set but I guess this is one way to make something more limited and sell more copies. ;)

Egg_Shen
09-13-2002, 05:01 AM
Well, I ordered the set just over a week ago, and it’s been on backorder from the start. I’m afraid I wont be getting the original, and there isn’t a Best Buy store anywhere near my area. Tough luck I suppose.

Agent Z
09-13-2002, 08:07 AM
The new artwork for the SLEEPAWAY CAMP Survival Kit dvd boxset: <img src="http://www.angelfire.com/ma/jhvideo/images/newsurvival2.jpg">

Courtesy of SleepawayCampMovies.com! Thanks Guys!

ScaryMovieFreak
09-13-2002, 12:43 PM
The Best Buy near me still has plenty of copies of this. I may pick another copy up, even though I already have one.

Gnaghi
09-13-2002, 01:24 PM
you would think the red cross would have better things to do than restrict the use of the logo... how long has it been in use for since the 1800s?

Fistfuck
09-13-2002, 10:43 PM
I hope they put the bare asses back in this one! :eek:

bigdaddyhorse
09-13-2002, 11:46 PM
More importantly, does anyone know if the new Best Buy boxes will still have the 4th disc?
If not, I'm gonna go buy every copy left here!

moogong
09-14-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by bigdaddyhorse
More importantly, does anyone know if the new Best Buy boxes will still have the 4th disc?
If not, I'm gonna go buy every copy left here!

I think it probably will still have the 4th disc. Honestly, that disc is overrated. I was glad to get it but after watching it...its no biggie.

KillerCannabis
09-14-2002, 02:41 AM
Sweet, now not only do I have the original art for the box set, but also the 4th bonus disc..... and all for under $25. That rocks.

DefJeff
09-14-2002, 07:05 AM
i picked one up today

one of the dudes that worked at the BB i got it from told me they have been flying out the door the past few days.

McBride_01
09-15-2002, 04:33 AM
Wow! I'm glad I got this one when I did then... I agree that it's a load of crap that Red Cross is even bothered about this.

moogong
09-15-2002, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by McBride_01
Wow! I'm glad I got this one when I did then... I agree that it's a load of crap that Red Cross is even bothered about this.

Well you know how it goes, EMTs might accidently grab a copy of the Sleepaway Camp box instead of a medical kit right before responding to an emergency call. I'm sure its happened already.

Fistfuck
09-15-2002, 09:27 PM
This is why I have a DVD connecting my head to my neck. Damn you Anchor Bay!

Suicide
09-15-2002, 10:25 PM
That 4th disc is overrated. I mean it's cool of Anchor Bay to include it, but was that seriously intended to be used in a movie? Good thing they abandoned it. You would think a slightly attractive girl who was willing to be in a crappy horror sequel would've been easy to come by, instead they get some fat broad with an enormous head.
Also I think they got the guy from the Troma trailers to do the voiceover on the trailer to this one.

Luna
09-16-2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by MISSIONCODEZ
And if you don't, go out and get one before they're all gone!"

ARGH!! Dammit to hell! I have to go out TODAY and see if my local Best Buy has anymore box sets. They had like, 10 or more of them last time I was there. *sob*

:(

Cujo108
09-16-2002, 10:08 PM
I already bought my Survival Kit at Best Buy the very first day it came out, so no rushing around for me. :p

bigdaddyhorse
09-17-2002, 06:05 AM
I agree the 4th disc is kinda crappy, but people want to see it anyway. I doubt I'll ever watch mine again, but being a dvd dork I had to have it.
Wiseman once say, "it is better to have and not want than to want and not have"

maybrick
09-17-2002, 05:05 PM
This all smells like a scam to me... like the Survival Kit wasn't doing as well as they hoped so they invented this little scandal to drum up some business. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the second version doesn't get released at all, or if it does, it might be that version that becomes the collector's item since it may be pressed in lower quantities. How many of these things were they expecting to release and how many had they already pressed before changing the artwork? Do they really think that there are enough people in the world that care about Sleepaway Camp, never mind the sequels, to pump these things out forever? That's the thing, you have to question when Anchor Bay or any other company claims that one of their products will become a "collector's item". It's the rarity and the demand that makes something a collector's item, not because the producers expect to be.
I say all this as a non-fan of Sleepaway Camp. Never cared for the series and no amount of keen business sense on Anchor Bay's part will get be to become otherwise. I don't mean to offend anyone who likes these movies, but let's face it, they're not classics of the genre like series such as Evil Dead, Halloween, or Romero's dead films, so is a box set of Sleepaway Camp films expected to garner even a quarter of the attention those those other films would?

Agent Z
09-17-2002, 05:41 PM
This all smells like a scam to me... like the Survival Kit wasn't doing as well as they hoped so they invented this little scandal to drum up some business. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the second version doesn't get released at all, or if it does, it might be that version that becomes the collector's item since it may be pressed in lower quantities. How many of these things were they expecting to release and how many had they already pressed before changing the artwork? Do they really think that there are enough people in the world that care about Sleepaway Camp, never mind the sequels, to pump these things out forever? That's the thing, you have to question when Anchor Bay or any other company claims that one of their products will become a "collector's item". It's the rarity and the demand that makes something a collector's item, not because the producers expect to be.

I can't stand the SLEEPAWAY CAMP sequels to save my own Life, but I also can't deny that the SLEEPAWAY CAMP boxset is one of this quarter's strongest sellers: Anchor Bay had to go back and press more copies than expected....and my initial shipment was 4 days late :mad: .....which was a first from AB. The SLEEPAWAY CAMP series is one of the strongest genre sellers across the board......and at one point, the boxset reached 148 on Amazon's sales' rankings....not bad for such an obscure film! The point being, even Anchor Bay wasn't ready for the demand for this boxset and the last thing AB needed was to change the package design to "drum up" some business. Also keep in mind that AB never claimed that this change in artwork would increase the collectibilty factor.....that assumption (probably dead-on btw) came from the fansites.

As a side note, everybody is discussing all the factors that might affect the increase in this boxset's future value to collectors.....how about the one feature of the boxset that might lower its value in the future: fanboy John Klyza's moderating duties on the commentaries for the sequels.......oooof!

bigdaddyhorse
09-19-2002, 05:26 AM
They had 10 copies still at Best Buy Tuesday, and I didn't grab any. Probably would've, but went to the mall and found a copy each of Universal's Dracula, Son/Daughter of D, and Mummy's Hand/Tomb so I couldn't spend no more.
If anyone wants one (Survival Kit) and can't get em where you are, cover postage and a $5 finder fee (+ the $26.49 it costs with tax) and I'll hook ya up. Not sure how long they'll be there, but the arrangement looked just like it did last week. E-mail if interested,
bigdaddyhorse420@yahoo.com
I'm verified through paypal and prefer them, credit card orders add 1.5% to split the fees.

Agent Z
09-24-2002, 10:15 AM
Well.....from www.sleepawaycampfilms.com (http://www.sleepawaycampfilms.com/) comes this latest update in the Red Cross Vs. AB front:

Red Cross getting brutal......... (http://www.sleepawaycampfilms.com/news_dvd.htm)

.....it's a wacky, wacky world.................

mutleyhyde
09-24-2002, 10:28 AM
Ha! The Red Crooks are gonna pursue legal action against any site that displays the original box art... I wonder how many eBay sellers that is gonna include.

Ridiculous.

DefJeff
09-24-2002, 08:29 PM
this is getting pretty ridiculous now

satan x
09-24-2002, 11:25 PM
If that is true it's disgraceful way to waste the money that is donated to them, surely to God they have more to do with their time.

Agent Z
08-28-2003, 09:06 AM
Here's a more thorough explanation for the Red Cross fiasco:

(courtesy of www.medialinenews.com)

"Packaging

Red Cross Invokes Logo Rights

by Joy Zaccaria


(Nov. 8, 2002) -- In August 2002 Anchor Bay Entertainment of Troy, MI released the three-DVD set of horror cult film phenomenon Sleepaway Camp and its sequels. Unbeknownst to Anchor Bay, the set’s original “red cross” packaging technically violated the Geneva Convention.

For 20,000 pieces, the design of the outer case originally sported a large red cross as the main graphic element. “Our package was intended to give the impression of being a first aid kit,” said Tom Bambard, senior brand manager of horror and sci-fi at Anchor Bay. “Then of course it had a big bloody handprint on it—like somebody at camp grabbed the first aid kit to save himself.”

The design of the package was done in-house at Anchor Bay. “We did a review of whether there were any trademarks associated with [the red cross logo] and we thought we had done a reasonable amount of due diligence in identifying any restrictions. We thought the red cross was a public domain image. That turned out not to be true,” said Bambard.

A representative of the Canadian Red Cross contacted Anchor Bay after finding the offending box in a retail store and informed the studio that the use of the red cross insignia was restricted by the Geneva Convention. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention adopted in 1950 reads: Civilian hospitals shall be marked by means of the emblem provided for in Article 38 of the Geneva Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field of August 12, 1949, but only if so authorized by the State. To avoid confusion for the wounded in a military action, Anchor Bay was politely yet sternly advised by the Red Cross to remove the logo from the DVD package. (The only company that uses it without Red Cross’ permission is Johnson and Johnson, which existed in 1906, prior to the signing of the Geneva Convention.) “We certainly took it seriously,” said Bambard. “We immediately communicated our willingness to repackage any existing product and make the necessary changes to all product going forward.”

Anchor Bay redesigned the package without the cross and instead put the words “Survival Kit” in a drippy blood font. An inner sliding case holds three DVD Alphas and a collector’s booklet.

The packages were produced by Tepel Brothers, a fellow Troy, MI firm that handles many packages for Anchor Bay. The discs were replicated at Crest National.

Roughly half of the discs were special editions exclusively for retail chain Best Buy that featured a bonus fourth disc and a slight packaging variation announcing the bonus with an extra blood splatter. “We used a matte finish on the basic package and then a high-gloss UV over the blood splatter and bloody hand print,” said Bambard. “It really looks like drying blood.” Best Buy approached Anchor Bay about the exclusive bonus fourth disc. “We knew Best Buy would do a significant volume of business to the Sleepaway Camp audience. It’s a good match. We get requests periodically by just about everybody. We try to accommodate them when we can. You don’t always have enough material. In some cases the exclusive package may have a different retail point. In this case it didn’t,” said Bambard.

The Best Buy bonus fourth disc had footage from the never finished Sleepaway Camp IV—The Survivor. “It was a project that died before it got finished,” said Bambard. “We had a bunch of the dailies and a trailer that had been edited together that had never been seen by anybody.”

Anchor Bay Entertainment

Andrew
08-28-2003, 09:12 AM
To avoid confusion for the wounded in a military action, Anchor Bay was politely yet sternly advised by the Red Cross to remove the logo from the DVD package. Classic!

Agent Z
08-28-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by AndrewBBD
Classic!

I know! It's ridiculous, surreal, and cool all at the same time....:lol: :) :glasses:

TobalRox
08-28-2003, 08:24 PM
Oh my god, I was shot... let's run to Media Play so I can get myself a first aid kit!!!!

dwatts
06-09-2004, 04:37 PM
What's the status of this? I asked because I wandered into a store yesterday, and hidden at the back of a shelf was one of the "red cross" sets. Is it really worth picking up as a collectable?

I ask because, while I wouldn't mind getting the films, they weren't on my "NOW" list. But if the box is really collectable, I might go pick it up. It's retailing (it's new) for $36.

speanroc
06-09-2004, 05:26 PM
What's the status of this? I asked because I wandered into a store yesterday, and hidden at the back of a shelf was one of the "red cross" sets. Is it really worth picking up as a collectable?

I ask because, while I wouldn't mind getting the films, they weren't on my "NOW" list. But if the box is really collectable, I might go pick it up. It's retailing (it's new) for $36.


grab it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Katatonia
06-09-2004, 05:30 PM
What's the status of this? I asked because I wandered into a store yesterday, and hidden at the back of a shelf was one of the "red cross" sets. Is it really worth picking up as a collectable?

I ask because, while I wouldn't mind getting the films, they weren't on my "NOW" list. But if the box is really collectable, I might go pick it up. It's retailing (it's new) for $36.

It's somewhat collectable if it's the original red cross box. It's even more collectable if it's the Best Buy version with the 4th bonus disc.

However...neither currently sells for more than around $25 on ebay.

wizzer
06-09-2004, 05:54 PM
got ours with the bonus fourth disc for 19 bucks.

bigdaddyhorse
06-09-2004, 06:36 PM
I ended up selling an extra copy and my personal copy on ebay last year. I got about $40 for the used one and $45 for the sealed extra.
Sounds like no one cares anymore, but you never kow with ebay. All you need is a hyped up listing and 2 bidders who can't stand to live without it. I f I saw another set with the "cross" cover I'd grab it, maybe not for $36 though, that's too steep and would kill any profit.
Now if you like the movies and want them, grab it for yourself as the cover is cool (the only cool thing about the set IMO, I just don't like the movies anymore).

x666x
06-09-2004, 10:21 PM
I own 3 copies of this box set with the Red Cross and 4th disc. I sold a bunch on Ebay a long time ago and did well. I am actually happy enough with the series to not even worry about getting rid of either of the 2 copies that I have still sealed.

After all these years, the first one did not hold up at all. It was the second one that impressed the hell out of me because it had significantly more blood. The third one would have qualified if AB reinserted the deleted blood scenes. Does anyone know why they didn't do this. As I work in a film/television environment, I am thinking of doing this myself soon enough.

dwatts
06-10-2004, 06:36 AM
Thanks people. Sadly, I'm still undecided. I checked the box again, and while this is not a Best Buy, it does have the fourth disc.

What's wrong with the first film? Are they horrible?

Atmims
06-10-2004, 06:56 AM
The first one is a cheesy classic. They get progressively worse after that. Part 2 has some fun in it, part 3 is a complete turd.

Deus Ex Machina
06-10-2004, 09:24 AM
I"m still glad I grabbed this set a week before it was released....red cross and fourth disc

fceurich39
09-05-2004, 03:17 AM
is the red cross version the one that has the 4th disc sleepaway campIV

Deus Ex Machina
09-05-2004, 03:25 AM
I think it's Best Buy/Futureshop one that have the fourth disc....the cover change was for legal reasons...

bigdaddyhorse
09-05-2004, 05:08 AM
I think it's Best Buy/Futureshop one that have the fourth disc....the cover change was for legal reasons...

Yep, you can still get the 4th disc at Best Buy to this day, but you can't get the Red Cross boxset anymore. All the old boxes 3 or 4 disc were Red Cross, now all have been changed.

RickMoe
09-05-2004, 06:19 PM
Yep, you can still get the 4th disc at Best Buy to this day, but you can't get the Red Cross boxset anymore. All the old boxes 3 or 4 disc were Red Cross, now all have been changed.

Yep. I haven't seen the ones with the 4th Bonus disc around for a while now, but the way you can tell if it's included in the set is on the side pannel of the box. In the upper corner, an additional blood-drop will be there with the words "Includes Bonus 4th DVD". Of course if you can still find this with the original Red-Cross cover, you're in luck.

Myron Breck
09-05-2004, 11:10 PM
I just bought the Box Set in question 2 days ago at BB and they still offer the bonus disc with the newer cover design. I can't imagine why anyone would shell out big bucks for a Red Cross logo, but that's just me. $23.99 was the perfect price.

HalloweeNightJW
09-06-2004, 04:20 PM
I just bought the Box Set in question 2 days ago at BB and they still offer the bonus disc with the newer cover design. I can't imagine why anyone would shell out big bucks for a Red Cross logo, but that's just me. $23.99 was the perfect price.

That is a great price considering the footage from Sleepaway Camp IV is pretty unwatchable and is likely to induce sleep, and the first Sleepaway Camp is edited.

fceurich39
09-07-2004, 12:37 AM
That is a great price considering the footage from Sleepaway Camp IV is pretty unwatchable and is likely to induce sleep, and the first Sleepaway Camp is edited.
i too am going to buy this tomorrow at best buy they still have one left

and also i have found the red cross version at my borders video store so i may have a look at that one as well

Myron Breck
09-08-2004, 07:16 PM
That is a great price considering the footage from Sleepaway Camp IV is pretty unwatchable and is likely to induce sleep, and the first Sleepaway Camp is edited.
True, but the edits are so minor that, for once, I'm not too annoyed by them. I've seen the unedited Legacy version (more unwatchable than the clips from Part IV) and was not impressed.

PMcG_6
09-08-2004, 08:15 PM
I originally got mine at BB with the Red Cross and the 4th disc. Lost it in a fire then re-purchased through DDDVD. Still had the Red Cross but no 4th disc. Didn't care though. Material on it wasn't memorable.