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MISFITZ
01-10-2003, 06:37 PM
Maybe this is old news to everyone. I haven't been following the updates, but i had a link to this interview on Kelly R from Destiny's Child who will be in FREDDY vs JASON.

Nice touch of her to say she never watched the films when she was small. (and she never mentions if she has seen them yet, she's still very young) But whatver... I wasn't too excited about this film, .. but here's an interesting article for those who wanna read more info on it.

INTERVIEW ON THE SET WITH JASON and FREDDY (http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/movie_house/fvj_feature_021114/?epiNum=12)

MISFITZ
01-10-2003, 06:42 PM
Other key notes from the interview...

Take that, mix-it all up with a little bit of "Matrix"-style wirework (!) and something-or-other involving demons, and there just may be a little something in "Freddy vs. Jason" for everybody.



And since we all know Kelly Rowland is black, she'll be doing her 'black' thang in the film too... I guess for comedy relief like in 13 ghosts...

And of course, there's also Kelly Rowland.
"My character, Kia, is really mouthy, [and there's] a scene in the movie where everybody is going to enjoy it," Rowland promised. "It's a part where me and Freddy have got some interaction going on. It's really cool."



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

zombi3
01-10-2003, 06:55 PM
That's the new thang - teeny pop stars in slasher flicks. I wouldn't mind too much if Jason (or Freddy) decapitated Destiny's Child within the first five minutes of the film and shoved her head square up her whiny ass, but I don't think that'll happen.:( Needless to say, my expectations of this film are now very low, but I'm sure I'll go out and see it anyway.

:fire: Destiny's Child!:fuck:

DefJeff
01-10-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by MISFITZ

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And of course, there's also Kelly Rowland.
"My character, Kia, is really mouthy, [and there's] a scene in the movie where everybody is going to enjoy it," Rowland promised. "It's a part where me and Freddy have got some interaction going on. It's really cool."

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And since we all know Kelly Rowland is black, she'll be doing her 'black' thang in the film too... I guess for comedy relief like in 13 ghosts...


yea man, this is not good news. the black wise ass role is really old. its always the lamest role in every "teen" targeted movie. i always root for them to die :evil:

mcchrist
01-10-2003, 09:42 PM
Retardeder and retardeder...

:fuck:

hell ya!
01-10-2003, 09:46 PM
Why can't singers do what they do best, SING. They sing not act but in Hollywood singing and acting is probably the same to them. :rolleyes:

:banana: :banana: :banana:

mcchrist
01-10-2003, 09:49 PM
Isn't Knowles in Destiny's Child? Her performance in Austin Powers made me want to kill people, and the movie itself didn't help anything either. So another one thinks she can act... I will not see FvsJ, this is stupid! :fire: :fire:

Suicide
01-10-2003, 09:57 PM
Ah, the loud annoying wisecracking black character. Weee! #1 on my list of most annoying out of place horror movie characters. I got physically angry at the character Misfitz mentioned from 13 Ghosts. Seriously I yelled at the screen several times during that miserable piece of crap, most of the time it was because of the wiseass black nanny.

I'm still mad they picked the ugly buck teeth girl from Destiny's Child, if you're gonna put a music star in your movie, at least put an attractive one in there. Where's that Christina Ricci looking chick from the Donnas when you need her? I don't mind people who starred on a tv show on the WB like most people seem to, just make this rapper/singer crap stop. Ah well, at least we got Katherine Isabelle and Monica Keena to look forward to.

I tell you what though, if this "Matrix style" crap at any point has Freddy jumping in the air and the movie stops and then the camera spins 360 degrees around him before the movie starts back up, I'm leaving.

mcchrist
01-10-2003, 10:00 PM
Everyone is excited to see this movie regardless, and yet at the same time it seems they all know its going to suck! Like a flock following the judas goat into the slaughterhouse... I'm staying away from this one.

Agent Z
01-10-2003, 10:24 PM
Take that, mix-it all up with a little bit of "Matrix"-style wirework (!) and something-or-other involving demons, and there just may be a little something in "Freddy vs. Jason" for everybody.

And if that is the case, then this is too bad. Movies today are becoming too homogenized, as the powers that be feel that they must appeal to as many audiences (read: buyers) as possible to generate box office.

victor
01-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by DefJeff
yea man, this is not good news. the black wise ass role is really old. its always the lamest role in every "teen" targeted movie. i always root for them to die :evil:

i generally abhor that role, too, but the black dude in return of the living dead was hilarious. the way he said the dirty f-word and the number of times he said it was stinkin hilarious...it sounded kinda like the BOCK sound a chicken makes, only with an F where the B is.... BOCK! BOCK! BOCK! BOCK YOU, MUTHABOCKA!

...sorry, got a little carried away.

Chucky P
01-11-2003, 12:17 AM
Usually the characters that mouth off to Freddy end up getting killed so that is one good reason to see this flick!

Shit! They should rename this flick Freddy gets bootylicious! :D

Paff
01-11-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Chris Phelps
. I got psychically angry at the character Misfitz mentioned from 13 Ghosts.

Does that mean you tried to mentally project your anger through the screen?

And just to show that I'm joking at your typo, here's a banana::banana:

Suicide
01-11-2003, 12:54 AM
Ah shit, I lost my train of thought there, I think I'll have to edit that so noone else notices that one:nervous:

chrishicks
01-11-2003, 04:25 AM
The thing I can't understand is this: why do they have to make all movies that feature a black person talk in that Snoop Dogg slang and other crap like that? I mean not every person talks like Busta Rymes and the like. Every time I hear of a new movie coming out with a black person I feel I have to go and look for the Websters Guide to Ghetto Talk.:rolleyes:

loud death
01-11-2003, 04:34 AM
it all makes me SICK!!!!
everything that could be really great ends up shity!
fuck this crap!!
i am so sick of this shit i don't know what to say.

they fucked up TCM,they fuck up this and half the halloween's with this gabage!
fuck all you damn hollywood pricks to hell!!!!!!!

chrishicks
01-11-2003, 04:48 AM
I think all movies should have 1 requirement before they hire an actor to be in a role for a remake or sequel. They must know the role. How many times do you see actors say "well I never saw the movie or movies but I think I can do a great job"? I remember hearing Fred Prinze Jr. talk about never seeing a Scooby Doo cartoon so had no idea who Fred was? Then go on to tell people that he did a great job of bringing the character to life. How could he tell that if he doesn't know the character? I seem to remember hearing Jessica Beil say she never saw TCM and didn't know what it was also. How can actors respect a role they know nothing about?

KillerCannabis
01-11-2003, 05:55 AM
Goddamn, do we really need any more info on this steamer to know its going to suck. Everyone should check out the new issue of Rue Morgue for a little article filled with even more examples of the sucking power this film will have.

zombi3
01-11-2003, 06:33 AM
Well if FvJ would have come out in 1988 when it was supposed to, it may have had a chance. But...we shall see.

Anyway, :fire: Destiny's Child, LL Cool J, Busta, Brandy, and Paramount (just for the hell of it!).:fuck:

WesReviews
01-11-2003, 08:30 AM
Okay...just what the hell is wrong with you people?

First of all, this news is a million years old.

Secondly, you guys call yourself horror fans, but I'm not the one that's about to let one tiny character stop me from seeing Freddy vs Jason. THE most-anticipated horror event in a long, long time.

About New Line casting a singer...how do you guys know she ISN'T playing a singer in the movie?

Much like Busta Rhymes in Halloween: Resurrection, I think this is a case of the "idea" that someone is in a film is worse than the actual execution. I came into H:R with the same mentality that you guys have regarding Kelly.

But you know what? Busta ended up being appropriate for that particular character. Should a better character have been written into the film? Of course, but he didn't upset me nearly as much as I had thought he was going to.

And about the "MTV crowd" argument...THESE MOVIES HAVE ALWAYS TARGETED THE MTV CROWD. Have you guys been living in a cave??? Why was there a Thriller-esque opening theme for Friday the 13th Part 3? Why did Elm Street 3 have dokken on the soundtrack? Why did Freddy do promos with Dokken ON MTV? Why did Elm Street 4 have a ton of pop/rock songs, many with videos on MTV? Why did Alice Cooper do a video for "He's Back: The Man Behind the Mask"? But of course, this whole "targeting the MTV crowd" thing...it's new. Never been done before. :rolleyes:

Sorry if i'm a little testy, but i just don't understand a lot of the reasoning going on. I have noticed that you guys don't know near the spoilers we know over at the official Friday board, so I guess I'd feel a little more uneasy/negative being in the dark as well. But take it from me, wild dogs won't keep me from seeing this one 10 times at the very least.

Also, word from one of the screenwriters is that the film was written extremely bloody and violent and that he himself has heard that Ronny Yu went even further than that on the actual set. Everyone involved is expecting the first cut to recieve an NC-17. They are even referring to this as "the bloodiest movie made since the 80's."

If FvsJ ends up sucking, I will at least have seen it and will fully admit that it sucks. But I, as well as every other person who claims to be a horror fan should give the filmmakers a chance. Ronny Yu is an impressive director, Fred Murphy is a great cinematographer, FvsJ is being shot 2:35:1, and the makeup people have done an incredible amount of research into the looks of each character, making sure they're faithful (and from the pics that have been released so far, they did an amazing job and will likely look even better in the finished film). The hard work that they've done to try to realize this long-awaited fan dream film is alone worth my price of admission.

If any of you were the horror fans you claim to be, it'd be worth yours as well.

Agent Z
01-11-2003, 08:55 AM
But you know what? Busta ended up being appropriate for that particular character. Should a better character have been written into the film? Of course, but he didn't upset me nearly as much as I had thought he was going to.

Wow......I respectfully disagree completely....and wonder if you saw the same final print that I had to groan with an audience at.



Why was there a Thriller-esque opening theme for Friday the 13th Part 3?

Huh?

WesReviews
01-11-2003, 09:11 AM
Wow......I respectfully disagree completely....and wonder if you saw the same final print that I had to groan with an audience at.
Busta had some groaners, to be sure. But honestly, Sean Patrick Thomas' character annoyed me to a much greater degree. And, it's not SPT that I hate, it's his stupid, unbelievable chef character that I can't stand. Busta, although a singer, must be viewed under the same microscope. Did Busta act as if he were reading from cue cards? No. His acting was surprisingly fluid. Was his character annoying and badly written? Yes. But that isn't Busta's fault. Just like whatever stupid things Kelly says in Freddy vs Jason won't be her fault, unless she ad-libs.

Huh?
I think the theme speaks for itself. Thriller-mania hits America, and the very next Friday the 13th movie has an opening theme, which is a pop music dance number with noticible beat similarities to the Jackson tune.

Gnaghi
01-11-2003, 10:17 AM
i saw some shit the other night on mtv with fvj... freddy did his little talk to the camera for mtv like the oldschool ones. they showed the kelly scene and it was HORRID! she was such a wise ass bitching sterotype shithead, much like 13 ghosts, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, to her. the only rewarding performance like that i know of is the girl in scary movie.

betterdan
01-11-2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by WesReviews
you guys call yourself horror fans, but I'm not the one that's about to let one tiny character stop me from seeing Freddy vs Jason. THE most-anticipated horror event in a long, long time.


Ummm and YOU call yourself a horror fan? Puuuhhlleeaassee:rolleyes:

The most anticipated horror event in a long time? Again Puuuhhlleeaassee:rolleyes: This is not even nor has it ever been highly anticipated by me, not by a long shot.

And finally as I have said before I have never seen elephant shit but some things you just know you don't want to see. Such as this movie.:D

mcchrist
01-11-2003, 10:31 AM
The most anticipated horror film ever? Granted, talk about this battle has been brewing since I was a lad in elementary school. Guess what? I got over it. Now the formula has changed and has been upgraded for a new audience who never knew or grew up with what Freddy & Jason had to offer anyway... Its like Hot Topic, I was walking by there the other day and out of the corner of my eye I saw a Headbanger's Ball shirt for sale. These shirts are being bought by high schoolers who are to young to even remember Headbanger's Ball... Same thing with FvsJ, I could really give a shit.

:sleepy:

Andrew
01-11-2003, 05:10 PM
I don't really see how not being excited about FREDDY VS. JASON would make anyone on this board less of a horror fan. But whatever.

I am quite sick of the stereotypical black girls in movies. I'm sure this'll be as bad or worse. But I'm still going to see the movie. I've been waiting for this forever. Not sure if I'll actually like it or not though...

jeffschmidt
01-12-2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by WesReviews
And about the "MTV crowd" argument...THESE MOVIES HAVE ALWAYS TARGETED THE MTV CROWD. Have you guys been living in a cave??? Why was there a Thriller-esque opening theme for Friday the 13th Part 3? Why did Elm Street 3 have dokken on the soundtrack? Why did Freddy do promos with Dokken ON MTV? Why did Elm Street 4 have a ton of pop/rock songs, many with videos on MTV? Why did Alice Cooper do a video for "He's Back: The Man Behind the Mask"? But of course, this whole "targeting the MTV crowd" thing...it's new. Never been done before. :rolleyes:

The thing about that is, the "MTV crowd" is a jillion times more stupid now than they were back when the things you mention above were happening. I don't think that's nostalgia talking, either. Seriously, 8-10 years ago, MTV was really pretty cool - now it's a bunch of weak-ass shows & almost no videos (M2's getting shitty, too...). So, yeah, back then the "MTV crowd" wasn't the bunch of dumbasses it is now.

rhett
01-13-2003, 04:49 AM
Has there really been a new horror film in the past two years that people on this board haven't cut down like there is no tomorrow? Yeah, modern films have lost the edge and greatness that the older ones have, but they are not nearly as bad as these boards make them seem. I can't believe all the scorn FvJ is taking. I mean, for most people this is two of modern horror's most prominent icons facing off in the spirit of those old Monster Movies, and yet everyone is cussing the film left and right.

This film probably wont compare with the original films in each respective series, but I still feel that it will be solid entertainment for horror fans. Come on guys, if we can't get excited for one of the biggest cult horror films of the last 25 years, then what can we get excited for?

betterdan
01-13-2003, 05:13 AM
Well I can get excited for older horror movies coming out on dvd. Is that good enough?;)

DefJeff
01-13-2003, 05:16 AM
HAHA thats exactly what i was gonna answer before i read your post betterdan :lol:

onebyone
01-13-2003, 08:55 AM
Before the Halloween Resurrection and the nightmare of Busta Rhymes, I wouldn't have cared in the least about this casting decision. Now though, I am worried. First they fire Kane Hodder for someone with poetic eyes and now this. Things are looking bad. :cry:

mcchrist
01-13-2003, 10:26 AM
Look, direct-to-video has become what drive-ins used to be. You think a movie like Dagon would ever hit the mainstream? No! Friday and Nightmare and Halloween were all born in an era that has been neglected and forgotten! Now the genre has been ressurected and repackaged to a generation I have nothing in common with, etc. The mainstream suffers from being subjected to pollitically correctedness, just like everything else. it comes out so bubble-gum and nice, I can't possibly seeing this film being anything but a failure because it represents everything I hate and that has been abandoned in cinema. There is no envelope, it has been superglued to the table! It can't be pushed anymore, so who's going to burn it?

My point is that I have great fears about this project... I honestly feel that I may be willing to declare the horror film dead as we know it after this. There is nothing to provide hope in any way, and I dread the outcome.

speanroc
01-13-2003, 03:05 PM
beonce knowles, i would smell it.

MISFITZ
01-13-2003, 05:32 PM
mcchrist is pretty much summing up my feelings on this whole thing as well.

Man, talking bad about this film does not make me less of a horror pimp. Just cuz i;m into horror, doesn't mean i let every bad idea go past me. I'm a horror pimp, not a sucker.

That's like saying there is going to be a new ALIEN film and this time the Aliens can talk and have families and rent movies and the film shows scenes of some Aliens skateboarding or playing football or something. If that pisses me off, i'm no longer a horror fan??? OH GAWD!!!!

I'm not ready to say horror is dead. There are some gems that have come out. The thing is they are in smaller and smaller numbers cuz these remakes and sequels take all the funding away from 'new' films.

Take for example LAKE PLACID. The concept is as old as dirt. YOu have a monster in the lake. And even then they just made it a big crocidile or alligator. But the film still was fun.

I think Jason X could have been a decent flick. But having them put 'JASON" in the film, ruined it for me. THrow in a new character or something and it would have changed the whole vibe of the film.


I agree with the whole DIRECT TO VIDEO being like DRIVE IN flicks. And even then, i think a lot of people haven't seen enough horror to judge others. There was a time when horror didn't have a 'hot new soundtrack' or whatever. It's purpose was to show sleazy death scenes and other shit on screen that made the majority of the world get offended. A black or a white person didn't matter in the film. Now a days, horro films are so 'predictable' that some kid who sees all the F13th films, feels he's a horror fan now. :bs: Parents think these films are cute. You longer have to watch these films on late night cable cuz they're so tame and predictable.

I dunno. I'm not at all one of those bastards who feels 'nothing will be as good as the old days'. But man. I'm just upset that sequels and remakes are getting so much money and attention than newer ideas and scripts.

WesReviews
01-13-2003, 10:31 PM
First they fire Kane Hodder for someone with poetic eyes and now this. Things are looking bad.
Well, in all the pics that have been released of jason so far, I have YET to see his eyes. His eyes are nowhere to be seen, and that's how it should be.

And why can't Jason be sympathetic? He started out that way. A retard who ends up drowning because all the "cool" older kids are having sex. You feel sorry for him. Then to have him see his mom get beheaded...truly sad. So, Jason is a sympathetic character. You almost want him to exact revenge on everyone who's harmed him. The fact that he kills anyone and everyone who dares to enter Crystal Lake, makes me believe that he considers it some kind of sacred ground for only he and his mother to dwell. That's not a mindless monster. He isn't a mindless monster. He has a purpose. Saying "if it's not kane, it's crap" ha! If anything, Kane ruined the already established character of Jason. Though, Kane can't accept the brunt of the blame. The writers of 7, 8, and 9 neglected to include anything of Jason's mother. Otherwise, i believe Kane could've played sympathetic.

With a one-dimensional character like Jason, they needed to bring back his purpose. Especially in a film where they have him going up against someone like Freddy Krueger.

From all accounts, the teaser trailer contained no Freddy one-liners, to my surprise. They are playing this one dark and completely straight. And about "political correctedness", McChrist... "How sweet, dark meat." Freddy's line to Kelly as he prepares to do her in. Not exactly something the NAACP would like, now is it?

mcchrist
01-14-2003, 03:57 AM
And about "political correctedness", McChrist... "How sweet, dark meat." Freddy's line to Kelly as he prepares to do her in. Not exactly something the NAACP would like, now is it?

:rolleyes:

Gimme a break, they can do better than that!