Silent Night, Bloody Night (Which version is the best one to buy?)

Matt89 · 08-21-2007, 09:09 AM

I really want to see this movie, but all I can find are crappy budget releases. Has it ever been "officially" released by a studio? And does anyone know the best version of this movie to buy? (Uncut, best image quality, etc etc). Thanks!

~Matt

08-21-2007, 03:16 PM

There is no official release of this title. From what I gather, the budget releases look about the same (terrible), so you'd be better off getting one of those. This film is quite underrated and eerie, though I admit I originally didn't give it much of a chance.

Katatonia · 08-21-2007, 04:19 PM

I don't think there is a "good version" currently on DVD. I've seen it on at least 3 different discs, and they all look about the same, poor quality.

I agree, I've always liked the film and would love to see a decent release...

eric_angelus · 08-21-2007, 05:32 PM

Yeah, all the budget discs pretty much look the same...like they were transfered from a print that had piece of sand paper run over it a few hundred times. The best looking I have actually seen is the ancient Paragon VHS, and even that looks pretty poor. I am hoping that maybe this may get released as part of the Elvira Movie Macabre collection, that print as I recall was decent.

Katatonia · 11-27-2009, 11:13 AM

I did a comparison between the Brentwood DVD version (Vault of Horror 10 Movie Set) and the Millcreek DVD version (Chilling Classics 50 Movie Pack), and here's what I found...

The Brentwood version runs at right over 81 minutes, and the Millcreek version runs slightly over 84 minutes. I've heard (unconfirmed) that the Millcreek came from an NTSC source, whereas most of the others (including Brentwood) come from the same PAL source, so that would explain the speed up with 2-3 minutes missing on the Brentwood DVD.

The Mill Creek version shows far more film speckles and dirt artifacts. It's also far brighter, but appears slightly cropped at the bottom of the frame compared to the Brentwood version.

The Brentwood version on the other hand is much darker and a little more blurry. It appears slightly cropped at the top of the frame compared to the Millcreek version.

Here's three screen comparisons I did between the two:

1. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom)

2. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom)

3. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom)

If anyone else has any other VHS/DVD versions of the film and wants to post some screencaps, feel free!

We really need a quality DVD release of this lost gem!!!

Mutilated Prey · 11-27-2009, 02:42 PM

What do you use for screen capture software? I just checked out my Diamond release and it looks almost identical to the Brentwood. It also runs 81:26.

Katatonia · 11-27-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutilated Prey

What do you use for screen capture software? I just checked out my Diamond release and it looks almost identical to the Brentwood. It also runs 81:26.

PowerDVD.

If the Diamond transfer looks similar to the Brentwood, it's probably one of the many that's originally sourced from PAL and thus has speed-up. The Mill Creek DVD definitely came sourced from different elements and appears to be from an NTSC source, thus running approx. 3 minutes longer.

bigdaddyhorse · 11-27-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katatonia

PowerDVD.

If the Diamond transfer looks similar to the Brentwood, it's probably one of the many that's originally sourced from PAL and thus has speed-up. The Mill Creek DVD definitely came sourced from different elements and appears to be from an NTSC source, thus running approx. 3 minutes longer.

I take it you didn't notice anything different content-wise when taking the screens?

When you take screens from powerdvd, do you get stretched sideways pics you have to fix before showing? I do, nearly everytime, and don't know why and fucking hate it. Other than that I love powerdvd.

Katatonia · 11-28-2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

I take it you didn't notice anything different content-wise when taking the screens?

When you take screens from powerdvd, do you get stretched sideways pics you have to fix before showing? I do, nearly everytime, and don't know why and fucking hate it. Other than that I love powerdvd.

No, I didn't notice anything content-wise that was different, but I didn't watch both versions fully through at the same time so I can't be sure. The Mill Creek version is definitely 3+ minutes longer for whatever reason however, that much is definite. I'm leaning towards the PAL/NTSC source.

In PowerDVD, you have to go into Configuration ----> Player ---> Advanced ---> Snapshot, and then modify the "Capture Aspect Ratio". If you choose a custom capture size, you'll need to check "Keep aspect ratio"

Nailwraps · 11-27-2009, 05:43 PM

I hope Code Red can secure the rights to this release then maybe a better release will be in order. Then again, this was release by Cannon Films and therefore is either with MGM or in public domain limbo.

Body Boy · 11-27-2009, 08:17 PM

Code Red would be a good company to release this. They're already done the public domain films Messiah of Evil and Devil Times Five, so another wouldn't hurt. Hehe. At least not for this film. A lot of PD flicks are terrible, but every once in a while, you find a film like Messiah or Bloody Night, and you wonder how a quality release does not exist.

snowbeast323 · 11-28-2009, 01:47 PM

The copy I have of this film is.....awful. Hard to see most of the time.
I just wish it had an offical release.....

CrazyFatEthel · 11-29-2009, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowbeast323

The copy I have of this film is.....awful. Hard to see most of the time.
I just wish it had an offical release.....

Ditto.

MisterTwister · 11-29-2009, 08:09 AM

I've always been interested in this one. Too bad there's no good release of it.

fceurich39 · 12-07-2009, 09:40 PM

i still have the old paragon vhs of this

08-21-2007, 09:09 AM	#1
Matt89 HackMaster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	Silent Night, Bloody Night (Which version is the best one to buy?) I really want to see this movie, but all I can find are crappy budget releases. Has it ever been "officially" released by a studio? And does anyone know the best version of this movie to buy? (Uncut, best image quality, etc etc). Thanks! ~Matt __________________ "If a man can bridge the gap between life and death ... I mean, if he can live on after his death, then maybe he was a great man." - James Dean

08-21-2007, 04:19 PM	#3
Katatonia Hellbound Heart Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 15,901	I don't think there is a "good version" currently on DVD. I've seen it on at least 3 different discs, and they all look about the same, poor quality. I agree, I've always liked the film and would love to see a decent release... __________________ "The machines are faster and the bombs are worse, as we're all sucked into this unholy curse." - Saint Vitus - War Is Our Destiny DVD Profiler Collection

08-21-2007, 05:32 PM	#4
eric_angelus Testacular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 1,906	Yeah, all the budget discs pretty much look the same...like they were transfered from a print that had piece of sand paper run over it a few hundred times. The best looking I have actually seen is the ancient Paragon VHS, and even that looks pretty poor. I am hoping that maybe this may get released as part of the Elvira Movie Macabre collection, that print as I recall was decent. __________________ "You gotta be quick...you gotta be quick with me...I'm from Erie, PA!" On Facebook The reason I'm in debt

11-27-2009, 11:13 AM	#5
Katatonia Hellbound Heart Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 15,901	I did a comparison between the Brentwood DVD version (Vault of Horror 10 Movie Set) and the Millcreek DVD version (Chilling Classics 50 Movie Pack), and here's what I found... The Brentwood version runs at right over 81 minutes, and the Millcreek version runs slightly over 84 minutes. I've heard (unconfirmed) that the Millcreek came from an NTSC source, whereas most of the others (including Brentwood) come from the same PAL source, so that would explain the speed up with 2-3 minutes missing on the Brentwood DVD. The Mill Creek version shows far more film speckles and dirt artifacts. It's also far brighter, but appears slightly cropped at the bottom of the frame compared to the Brentwood version. The Brentwood version on the other hand is much darker and a little more blurry. It appears slightly cropped at the top of the frame compared to the Millcreek version. Here's three screen comparisons I did between the two: 1. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom) 2. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom) 3. Mill Creek (top) and Brentwood (bottom) If anyone else has any other VHS/DVD versions of the film and wants to post some screencaps, feel free! We really need a quality DVD release of this lost gem!!! __________________ "The machines are faster and the bombs are worse, as we're all sucked into this unholy curse." - Saint Vitus - War Is Our Destiny DVD Profiler Collection Last edited by Katatonia; 11-27-2009 at 11:20 AM.

11-27-2009, 02:42 PM	#6
Mutilated Prey Soul Stealer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texarkana Posts: 5,079	What do you use for screen capture software? I just checked out my Diamond release and it looks almost identical to the Brentwood. It also runs 81:26. __________________

08-21-2007, 03:16 PM	#2
RyanPC Guest Posts: n/a	There is no official release of this title. From what I gather, the budget releases look about the same (terrible), so you'd be better off getting one of those. This film is quite underrated and eerie, though I admit I originally didn't give it much of a chance.

11-27-2009, 05:43 PM	#10
Nailwraps HackMaster Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,835	I hope Code Red can secure the rights to this release then maybe a better release will be in order. Then again, this was release by Cannon Films and therefore is either with MGM or in public domain limbo.

11-27-2009, 08:17 PM	#11
Body Boy HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Posts: 1,448	Code Red would be a good company to release this. They're already done the public domain films Messiah of Evil and Devil Times Five, so another wouldn't hurt. Hehe. At least not for this film. A lot of PD flicks are terrible, but every once in a while, you find a film like Messiah or Bloody Night, and you wonder how a quality release does not exist. __________________ www.oh-the-horror.com... ...DVD Collection (most of it)

11-28-2009, 01:47 PM	#12
snowbeast323 Maniac Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rhythm Nation 1814 Posts: 596	The copy I have of this film is.....awful. Hard to see most of the time. I just wish it had an offical release..... __________________ Don't be afraid, I'm gonna hurt you real good, baby.. Close your eyes, not your mind.....let me into your soul.... La Toya Jackson fan and proud!

11-29-2009, 08:09 AM	#14
MisterTwister Maniac Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Wales, FL Posts: 912	I've always been interested in this one. Too bad there's no good release of it.

12-07-2009, 09:40 PM	#15
fceurich39 HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ira's Toys store Posts: 7,597	i still have the old paragon vhs of this __________________ check out my dvds at http://fceurich39.dvdaf.com/ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=352855310

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