David Gordon Green to remake Suspiria

[The Chaostar]

Here's the link.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/03/05/...ntos-suspiria/

Now, Gordon Green is a good director. And a very interesting choice. To be honest, I prefer a director of the "arty" kind to direct a remake of Suspiria, much more than the modern-style butchers of the american horror of today. I mean, Greenaway would be a great choice. Scorsese too... ooh, never mind. Green is a good choice. I wonder what he will bring to the story.

[spawningblue]

I think this is one film that will be really hard to remake, as the first film wasn't really about the plot, but more about the stylish colours and direction.

[Spit]

I agree with spawningblue, this is one of the hardest remakes I've ever heard of.

Some of the things in the article make me a little suspicious like, calling Suspiria a
"low budget Italian 70’s gore movie."
Suspiria is hardly a 'gorefest' even for '77 standards.

"I would love to get every geek that loves torture porn and every old lady in line to see ‘Phantom of the Opera’ to come and have this insane experience.",
Wtf does Suspiria have to do with torture porn? Maybe this guy rented Bloodsucking Freaks by accident. Now don't get me wrong, I am a geek that loves torture porn, but this in not the correct venue. I would hate to see a beautiful film like this one ruined by some tromask antics.

finally, he goes on
"it’s not exactly a perfect film"
From this a the previous remarks It sounds like this guy is looking to 'fix' the film rather then pay homage too it, like it deserves.

I I'm very weary of this remake, and think it will just introduce a mutilated version of a film I love to an audience that will only understand pointless violent gimmicks and CGI tacked on by Greens version.

[Spit]

Originally Posted by Spit

I agree with spawningblue, this is one of the hardest remakes I've ever heard of.

Some of the things in the article make me a little suspicious like, calling Suspiria a
"low budget Italian 70’s gore movie."
Suspiria is hardly a 'gorefest' even for '77 standards.

"I would love to get every geek that loves torture porn and every old lady in line to see ‘Phantom of the Opera’ to come and have this insane experience.",
Wtf does Suspiria have to do with torture porn? Maybe this guy rented Bloodsucking Freaks by accident. Now don't get me wrong, I am a geek that loves torture porn, but this in not the correct venue. I would hate to see a beautiful film like this one ruined by some tromask antics.

finally, he goes on
"it’s not exactly a perfect film"
From this a the previous remarks It sounds like this guy is looking to 'fix' the film rather then pay homage too it, like it deserves.

I I'm very weary of this remake, and think it will just introduce a mutilated version of a film I love to an audience that will only understand pointless violent gimmicks and CGI tacked on by Greens version.

As soon as I saw the new thread about, I immediately starting thinking about my doubts about this guy directing. Then satans-sadists gave the link to this old thread and I totally don't remember posting the above almost exactly 4 years ago but, my feelings about this remake haven't changed.

Though now the stakes are even higher for Green, because any remake of this film will probably be compared Black Swan.

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Black Swan's overrated.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by DVD-fanatic-9

Black Swan's overrated.

Agreed. I like the movie and everything but can't say I love it. Saw it in theatres, but haven't had the urge to watch my Blu Ray that I picked up months ago.

[The Chaostar]

Green is a very serious filmmaker. His first film (George Washington) was released on dvd by Criterion and that says something about his talent. I think that when he reffers to torture porn he talks about the decadance of modern horror. And he is right. I think that he loves that Suspiria ain't perfect (and plot-wise it aint - even if it is my favorite film of all time, I can see that myself)...

I don't think he will use CGI, its not like him... But then again, who knows.

[bwana the clown]

Originally Posted by The Chaostar

His first film (George Washington) was released on dvd by Criterion and that says something about his talent.

Then again, didn't Criterion also do a release of Armageddon?

[KR~!]

Originally Posted by bwana the clown

Then again, didn't Criterion also do a release of Armageddon?

and a few other crappy big budget Hollywood pictures

[The Chaostar]

Originally Posted by bwana the clown

Then again, didn't Criterion also do a release of Armageddon?

I frankly understood this. Bay did changed the structure of the Blockbuster, as we knew it - for better or worse.

I mentioned Malick earlier, didn't I?...

[dwatts]

Well, the narrative of the film is easy to discern, so I don't know why it would be difficult to remake. Of course, it was the over-the-top stylization that makes the film standout (which extends right into the lighting, music, and execution of the gore scenes). So does this guy want to try to replicate that, or not? I'm hoping not. I don't need someone pandering to Argento's 70's magic - it can't be successfully redone.

We'll need someone with their own vision - which will no doubt upset the purists, but they'll have to live with it. This will have to be a commercial film, so I expect the narrative to be sorted out and brought more to the fore.

We shouldn't forget that this isn't a movie for Suspiria fans. It'll hope they join in the fun, but it'll be a film looking for a new audience, a modern audience.

Frankly the biggest challenge will be the music, how the hell do you top that?

[17thJuggalo]

You folks should know by now that there is simply no hope for any remakes being worth watching. When was the last remake that was actually worth watching in the horror genre? 2004 maybe?

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Originally Posted by 17thJuggalo

When was the last remake that was actually worth watching in the horror genre? 2004 maybe?

More like 1986.

[Mazurka Macabre]

For the most part I don't think Suspiria would be hard to remake successfully. The reason? Most of it is pretty hilariously dreadful. The acting, the set design, the plot, many of the effects (THE BAT!), etc.

Argento was stylish, but in a distinctly unrestrained and Italian sort of way. Although the visuals of the film are brilliant, they are brilliant despite being amateurish and heavy-handed. I think translating Argento's Suspiria into a less garish, but still stylized and colorful, world is entirely possible. (I think the big downfall of Mother of Tears was that it didn't live up to this expectation---that it be a refined version of Suspiria and Inferno that would strike the ideal balance between the Argento opulence of old and the contemporary desire for realistic and convincing visuals.) A film that retains the art house dream structure and a strong, symbolic visual style - and that takes itself seriously - could be a huge success in a horror landscape that is oversaturated with the bleak, the sordid, the industrial, and the realistic.

Originally Posted by dwatts

Well, the narrative of the film is easy to discern, so I don't know why it would be difficult to remake. [...] Frankly the biggest challenge will be the music, how the hell do you top that?

I agree entirely. Don't over-think or complicate the narrative and the movie will be fine. The big deal will be the music. If they have a traditional, lackluster horror score it will be something that critics and Suspiria fans will lament. What they have to do is find a compelling musician and have that person create a score that is a work of art that runs parallel to the film, like Goblin's soundtrack for the original.

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Originally Posted by Mazurka Macabre

Most of it is pretty hilariously dreadful. The acting

You know, I've heard this before. And it's bullshit. Pure, utter bullshit. Daniel did a great job when he got up and yelled at Miss Tanner. Olga was great. Sara was great. Madame Blanc was great. Marc (?) was great. Frank was great. Milius was great. Albert was great. The old ladies chopping meat were great.

And something else- I'm getting pretty goddamned sick and tired of certain people around here (2 that I can count, but that's enough with me) criticizing the acting of great horror movies like Dawn of the Dead, Suspiria, and others by the traditional standards of acting. Horror is not a traditional genre. It always changes, to fit the need of the person who wants to find the horror movie they're watching entertaining. Because horror is the one genre I've found where there is no justification needed for anyone to defend a movie they liked. This doesn't work for other genres. Horror is different and special. But in a way, that's beside the point. The point is- Suspiria works. The acting qualities you see don't hinder or hurt the film at all. And I don't appreciate your attitude that they do.

Originally Posted by Mazurka Macabre

the set design, the plot, many of the effects (THE BAT!), etc.

Effects - I'll give you.

The Plot - this is Argento, he can make anything work if he's in charge (read or listen to Alan Jones for more on that, how his lesser films have all been the result of other people tampering). The plot works and it works well. Because this is Argento. If you disagree, you are free to be completely wrong but think you're right.

The set design... no idea what you're talking about. And unlike criticisms you might have made about the plot and the acting, I would very much like to hear criticisms you have about the set design.

Originally Posted by Mazurka Macabre

Argento was stylish, but in a distinctly unrestrained and Italian sort of way. Although the visuals of the film are brilliant, they are brilliant despite being amateurish and heavy-handed.

Heavy-handed? Maybe compared to non-Italian films. But there's nothing amateurish about this film. Aside from the special effects.