Argento's Phenomena - best version? - Page 2

11-18-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Plumage

Creepers is the Dario Argento approved cut of Phenomena.

I believe you are wrong. Creepers is a basterdized version of Phenomena (originally released in the U.S.), with alot of cuts. Phenomena is the Argento approved version (released by Anchor Bay etc.), and the long integral version is just a longer version of Phenomena. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong please.

Crystal Plumage · 11-18-2004, 08:05 PM

Any version missing any scenes is cut IMHO.
Why is the supposedly uncut version of A-Film called Creepers anyway?
Just to confuse us?

dwatts · 11-18-2004, 08:17 PM

Yeah, I disagree with the idea that any version with mising scenes is cut. I want what the Director wanted me to have. Sometimes they change their minds, mostly not. But if they did change their mind, then that's the most legitimate version for me.

11-18-2004, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Plumage

Any version missing any scenes is cut IMHO.
Why is the supposedly uncut version of A-Film called Creepers anyway?
Just to confuse us?

I really don't know why A-Film calls their version Creepers, it's the same version as Anchor Bay's. Maybe they needed another title to avoid confusion because there allready was another Dutch DVD available under the Phenomena title (the integral version). But of course it's still confusing because Creepers usually refers to another version than the one they released

MorallySound · 11-18-2004, 08:44 PM

The only version I have seen is the Creepers one, and I bought it long long ago at a video store sale. And yeah, I can tell its been cut. It runs at only 85-90 mins. I bought it like four years before the invention of DVD.

01-01-2005, 01:06 PM

I was browsing eBay and apparently Legacy has released Creepers on DVD in Region 1. Fullscreen as far as I can tell and in the $5.99 area. I still don't believe that Anchor Bay's version of Phenomena is what Dario wanted. Someone made that claim on another message board ages ago and it's become accepted as fact. Phenomena was released theatrically in Italy at 116 minutes... which is why the DVD is 116 minutes. The violence is not all in tact and all of the minor cuts (which seem to be for running time alone) leave all of the transitions very awkward. I wouldn't even call them minor. Some of the things the characters do in these small cuts are truer to Argento's style than the random trimming done to the Anchor Bay version. I'd like to see Blue Underground release it (and get a hold of the full English track because it does exist...), but who the hell knows with them?

fceurich39 · 02-17-2005, 04:10 PM

This Movie Sounds Interesting I May Have To Pick It Up Since I Always Found The Coverbox For Creepers Cool But Know I Hear This Version Is Better Called Phenomina

Semerrill · 02-17-2005, 04:48 PM

i have the italian version of phenomena and its called the hard integral,i think its the best one untill they start speaking italian in some scenes.Bought it for 11.99 at exploited

BloodMan · 02-18-2005, 12:18 AM

There is also an Italian Language version of the Integral version at Xploited, but it costs like 30 bucks or something.

Semerrill · 02-19-2005, 02:30 PM

is the germany se dragon edition pf phenomena still availble and what is dragons website

Crystal Plumage · 02-19-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semerrill

is the germany se dragon edition pf phenomena still availble and what is dragons website

I guess you mean this one:
http://www.medienhandel.at/gDFEDVD29.htm ?
It's available here: https://www.medienhandel.at/index2.htm
Shipping and handling is a bit expensive though.
If you need some translation I can be of assistance if you like.

Dragon do not have a website.

Semerrill · 02-19-2005, 03:40 PM

no not that one its a dragon release where it is 2 disc

fceurich39 · 02-20-2005, 01:48 AM

Will Be Getting The Anchor Bay Version

Semerrill · 02-24-2005, 12:46 AM

does anyone have a copy of the dragon 2 disc thatthey would sell or trade

old-boo-radley · 08-02-2005, 02:35 AM

Anyone know if the Creepers DVD from Legacy is cut? Or did they just rip from the AB DVD? They have it at Wal-Mart for $3.99 and I'd get it if it was uncut.

11-18-2004, 08:44 PM	#20
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02-17-2005, 04:48 PM	#23
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02-18-2005, 12:18 AM	#24
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02-19-2005, 03:40 PM	#27
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11-18-2004, 08:17 PM	#18
dwatts HackMaster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crashed Posts: 16,580	Yeah, I disagree with the idea that any version with mising scenes is cut. I want what the Director wanted me to have. Sometimes they change their minds, mostly not. But if they did change their mind, then that's the most legitimate version for me.

01-01-2005, 01:06 PM	#21
Mattster Guest Posts: n/a	I was browsing eBay and apparently Legacy has released Creepers on DVD in Region 1. Fullscreen as far as I can tell and in the $5.99 area. I still don't believe that Anchor Bay's version of Phenomena is what Dario wanted. Someone made that claim on another message board ages ago and it's become accepted as fact. Phenomena was released theatrically in Italy at 116 minutes... which is why the DVD is 116 minutes. The violence is not all in tact and all of the minor cuts (which seem to be for running time alone) leave all of the transitions very awkward. I wouldn't even call them minor. Some of the things the characters do in these small cuts are truer to Argento's style than the random trimming done to the Anchor Bay version. I'd like to see Blue Underground release it (and get a hold of the full English track because it does exist...), but who the hell knows with them?

02-17-2005, 04:10 PM	#22
fceurich39 HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ira's Toys store Posts: 7,661	This Movie Sounds Interesting I May Have To Pick It Up Since I Always Found The Coverbox For Creepers Cool But Know I Hear This Version Is Better Called Phenomina

02-20-2005, 01:48 AM	#28
fceurich39 HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ira's Toys store Posts: 7,661	Will Be Getting The Anchor Bay Version

02-24-2005, 12:46 AM	#29
Semerrill Maniac Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tampa florida Posts: 703	does anyone have a copy of the dragon 2 disc thatthey would sell or trade __________________ the boy with the thorn in his side Semerrill's DVDs

08-02-2005, 02:35 AM	#30
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