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Old 08-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #1111
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What the fuck is up with you guys? Since when is it a big deal if consumers want to voice their displeasure with a product being sold to them?? I honestly don't get the mentality of, "just be grateful it's even coming out". Why should anyone be grateful for a product they're not happy with? And if they're not happy with it, why not use a public forum to state their frustrations? Frankly, I've had with it fuckin' guys apologizing for companies, while said companies continually fuck consumers in the ass with shoddy products.
It's a problem when it's about nitpicking and never ever being satisfied. And not understanding that "shoddy products" are generally not shoddy at all. People go pretty far to release films on DVD and Blu for fans despite the money not generally being there to support their releases. You can vent on the downfalls of a release, but when people actually TEAR them apart constantly and call releases worse than shit when it's clear that said releases are actually quite a blessing in this day and age, that is what becomes absurd. A fullscreen VHS rip is one thing, but it's clear that these companies are trying to cater to fans and not just raping people through trickery. It's not about silencing critiques, it's about not being having impossible standards to meet.

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You didn't see me complain about a Death Valley/The Island double feature.
Then evidently we weren't talking about you!
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:04 PM   #1112
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What the fuck is up with you guys? Since when is it a big deal if consumers want to voice their displeasure with a product being sold to them?? I honestly don't get the mentality of, "just be grateful it's even coming out". Why should anyone be grateful for a product they're not happy with? And if they're not happy with it, why not use a public forum to state their frustrations? Frankly, I've had with it fuckin' guys apologizing for companies, while said companies continually fuck consumers in the ass with shoddy products.
Honestly, when you see who's posting, who even cares? It's best to ignore.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #1113
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What the fuck is up with you guys? Since when is it a big deal if consumers want to voice their displeasure with a product being sold to them?? I honestly don't get the mentality of, "just be grateful it's even coming out". Why should anyone be grateful for a product they're not happy with? And if they're not happy with it, why not use a public forum to state their frustrations? Frankly, I've had with it fuckin' guys apologizing for companies, while said companies continually fuck consumers in the ass with shoddy products.

You didn't see me complain about a Death Valley/The Island double feature. I'd rather spend $20 for two shitty movies bundled together, instead of $40 to get each of these shitty movies separately.
We're not talking about legit complaints like wrong soundtrack, pieces of film missing, not in OAR or obvious taped-from-VHS-master stuff, we're talking about the nambi pambi nitpick things. The independents I mentioned aren't perfect, but they're not out to "fuck the consumers in the ass with shoddy products" as you so eloquently put it. That would be a dumb business model.

Further more, do your homework and talk to somebody in the business...there are MANY reasons why some of these (mostly B films) films aren't 100% going to satisfy every customer. Budgets, access to materials (or lack of), bad film elements, costs to restore, cast & crew willing to participate for nothing or measly pay.

I, for one, am very grateful for the stuff we get (I never thought I'd see the day where Night School, Boogens, Mortuary and Death Valley would come out) but wish the negative Nancies would manage their expectations at times.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:54 PM   #1114
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Seriously. I love horror and the community, but FUCK! There are so many times I'm embarrassed to be a part of this population. Childish people who will never admit to it despite portraying the obvious symptoms. The whole reason these are coming out individually are because the fans complained about the double feature DVD! And now this is a problem because DVD and Blu are in the same package? Look, I am one of the people who find it tiresome to read CR's Bill continuously refer to his diminished profits and antics every... single... time he posts. It's irritating beyond comprehension. Yet he and so many others are still not the ones at major fault. Eccentric as he may be, he deserves to rant after the way people walk around entitled.

I apologize if this seems like an attack on some people as it's for a general group of people, but my God, time and time again, it's the same thing. Fans want this, fans want this. "Oh no! There was a miniscule white spec in the corner of a split-second shot in The Evil Dead and this is outrageous! This whole release is awful!" or "the Paramount rereleases of Friday the 13th sequels suck because despite going all out for extras, the hard-to-find uncut footage which I have no proof exists was not included. Therefore the decked out DVDs suck." ...

I say yay to individual DVD/Blu combo of a film!
Thank you (whoever you are) for backing me up on this. :-)
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:07 PM   #1115
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For those of you who are still DVD-only, I think you are going to appreciate these combo-packs once you eventually upgrade to blu-ray.

I love combo-packs. Even though I have a blu-ray player, I don't have one for every TV in my home.

It worked out perfectly for me. I have no interest in The Island, and I want Death Valley in hi-def. Couldn't be happier about how it turned out.

As for arguments over quality, I think the last place they belong is in the Shout Factory thread.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:25 PM   #1116
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other studios should take notes, shout factory is great. in terms of quality and using reverse artwork... and for bringing death valley to light.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:27 PM   #1117
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is it me?? or does halloween III have a really cool opening music piece there.. love tha t theme....
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:29 PM   #1118
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other studios should take notes, shout factory is great. in terms of quality and using reverse artwork... and for bringing death valley to light.
I agree. I love Shout Factory. I might not like combo packs but I'll still pick up Death Valley and The Island.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:49 PM   #1119
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is death valley being released separately??
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:08 AM   #1120
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Death Valley will only be available in a Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack.
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Old 08-25-2012, 01:07 AM   #1121
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cool, so it wont be attached to the ISLAND. like before. great news..
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:53 PM   #1122
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Some DVDTalk reviews:

Get A Life: The Complete Series
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56531/halloween-ii/

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season 1, Volume 1
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/55994...season-1-vol1/

Halloween II CE
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56531/halloween-ii/

Halloween III: Season Of The Witch CE
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56504...-of-the-witch/

Katatonia already posted the last 2 reviews in a different thread but being that this is a Shout! thread, they should be mentioned here (and the fact that I also got to post them up here in this thread. ).
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #1123
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I have to say, all this griping and complaining about two films being released separately instead of together is honestly trite.

There is zero point to complaining about a studio making the decision that both films would rather do better as stand alone releases than together and most of that came from those who liked both films. Neither one of them has a reputation for being bad, as a matter of fact both are pretty favorably reviewed by fans and critics alike. So what's the big deal?

What you don't want to spend $40 on two movies instead of $20? So don't buy them. Wait till they drop in price or get them through a third party seller in a few months and they'll more than likely be anywhere between $10-15 a piece so you might end up spending a little bit more than $20 but shit, you're complaining because we're getting something BETTER than what was planned?

And those complaining about Blu Ray/DVD combo packs - seriously??? Does the case take up more room because it has a DVD in it? Does it really bother you that you have a copy to loan out to a friend if they want to check the movie out? I mean seriously this complaint is the one that baffles me the most.

What is the big deal? You're still getting the Blu Ray and I can almost promise the price point would be the same if it didn't come with the DVD considering other Blu Ray releases are around the same price point so legitimately - what is your issue? You don't like that it comes with a DVD? Let me get you a tissue and a shoulder to cry on.

Seriously, be thankful we are getting these films on solid releases and not just thrown together on some shoddy double feature disc. Hell when releases are done as double features, people complain about that to.

You don't want to spend the money? Then don't! It's really that simple. If you want the film, well sorry, no hand outs here - go buy it and pay full price or shop around for deals. Even eBay has sellers that sell new release for sale prices so it's not like there's a shortage of places to buy these releases.

Some folks just need to get over it and move on.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:03 PM   #1124
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And those complaining about Blu Ray/DVD combo packs - seriously??? Does the case take up more room because it has a DVD in it? Does it really bother you that you have a copy to loan out to a friend if they want to check the movie out? I mean seriously this complaint is the one that baffles me the most.
You know that the complaint is about the extra cost. It sucks having to pay more for the additional format. $20 is too much to be charging these days.

FTR, I do exactly what you suggest, and wait for the price to drop. Deep Discount will have it on sale for the right price sooner or later.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:46 PM   #1125
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You know that the complaint is about the extra cost. It sucks having to pay more for the additional format. $20 is too much to be charging these days.

FTR, I do exactly what you suggest, and wait for the price to drop. Deep Discount will have it on sale for the right price sooner or later.
Okay, no offense but here's HALLOWEEN III - notice the price? Does it come with a DVD? Nope. So really, what's the issue again?

Okay so it's a special edition, but no specs have been confirmed for either of the other releases so they could have features making the price tag worth it as well.

I mean do we wanna talk how the VHS of both of these movies are selling for around $40 a piece? So $20 is too much to own them in a better format? I'm just trying to understand the logic here because the price point isn't really an issue, $20 is pretty standard for a Blu Ray, maybe $15 is the lowest I've seen for a new release of any title. So we're griping over $5?
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