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View Poll Results: Rate/Comment On The Last House on the Left (1972)
10 13 15.48%
9.5 2 2.38%
9 11 13.10%
8.5 5 5.95%
8 11 13.10%
7.5 8 9.52%
7 9 10.71%
6.5 3 3.57%
6 3 3.57%
5.5 2 2.38%
5 7 8.33%
4.5 2 2.38%
4 3 3.57%
3.5 0 0%
3 1 1.19%
2.5 1 1.19%
2 0 0%
1.5 1 1.19%
1 2 2.38%
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:53 PM   #76
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7.5 from me.
It would be 9.5 if the cops were missing.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:56 PM   #77
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You maybe onto something. I don't know anything about people's heads. Much less my own. Could be a lot of things.

And Matt set me on the right path. Yes it features rape and revenge. But I still say that it's really different than the movies to come out after it. There would be no "rape/revenge" sub-genre of films had Last House not been successful. And it was still Wes's ambition to make it a horror film. That's where I see the difference being.
All I'm saying is don't sweat it, ya know? Matt, Mattapooh and I got in a long argument regarding the Beatles a few months back, but at the end of the day I'm fairly certain none of us lost sleep over it.

And opinion is never fact. Maybe there is "general consensus" but what do you care? If LHOTL is your flick then so be it. I think Armageddon is a great sci-fi movie. What do I care what anyone has to say about it.

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Old 01-31-2009, 11:51 PM   #78
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Maybe there is "general consensus" but what do you care?
Exactly. There are a lot of things that are general consensus that I disagree with. For example, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS constantly makes it onto scariest/best horror movie lists. I don't consider it a horror movie, but what can I do about it? Railing about it is pointless. My viewpoint is hopelessly outnumbered. You just have to learn to sit back, take a breath, and silently live with the fact that everybody else in the world is a freaking moron.
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All I'm saying is don't sweat it, ya know? Matt, Mattapooh and I got in a long argument regarding the Beatles a few months back, but at the end of the day I'm fairly certain none of us lost sleep over it.
Haha, yeah I don't really give a shit. It was an interesting debate because it didn't get out of hand. But, Misfits > Beatles? LOL come on....

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And opinion is never fact. Maybe there is "general consensus" but what do you care? If LHOTL is your flick then so be it. I think Armageddon is a great sci-fi movie. What do I care what anyone has to say about it.

Matt chimes in here about how he hates Michael Bay in 5... 4... 3... 2...
Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker, more like a Spielberg clone. Not that there's anything particularly wrong with Spielberg (other than his movies were much better about 20 years ago) but Spielberg's style is distinctive as his own. Michael Bay?? ....OUCH.

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There are a lot of things that are general consensus that I disagree with. For example, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS constantly makes it onto scariest/best horror movie lists. I don't consider it a horror movie, but what can I do about it? Railing about it is pointless. My viewpoint is hopelessly outnumbered. You just have to learn to sit back, take a breath, and silently live with the fact that everybody else in the world is a freaking moron.
Yeah I'm with you on this one, that's deatable too. I don't think it's horror either (same with Psycho and The Birds) but yeah I'm not gonna freak out over it. But that's just the thing with genre study.

There are even film critics and theorists who can't figure some things out because some genres/styles are so hard to define. Like Film Noir, it's very distinguishable, but very very hard to define. Is it a genre or is it a style? Well, that's up to your own interpretaton. Me personally I tend to lean towards the latter. Paul Schrader wrote a great essay about this issue in favor of it being a style but then again, that's just his interpretation. Other people may see things differently but that's just the beauty of having conversations like this. People are different and have different ideas and opinions. Sure I gave that Casablanca example, but that's a rare exception because there are few films that have (or ever will) achieve the status of that film, so you'd be almost wrong to go against it. (Notice how I said "almost" wrong? )

It's when the debates get out of hand that they're no longer fun. Sure there are things I don't agree with and some people say stuff on here that's absolutely ridiculous and at times it makes me angry. But like Angelman said before, it's not something I'm gonna lose sleep over.

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Not that there's anything particularly wrong with Spielberg (other than his movies were much better about 20 years ago) but Spielberg's style is distinctive as his own. Michael Bay?? ....OUCH. ~Matt
Schindler's List? Munich?

Okay, I will admit I haven;t seen Schindler's List, but it is supposed to be really good. Munich was amazing though. Great acting, script, direction, ect. Just an overall perfect movie.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:07 PM   #81
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Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker, more like a Spielberg clone. Not that there's anything particularly wrong with Spielberg (other than his movies were much better about 20 years ago) but Spielberg's style is distinctive as his own. Michael Bay?? ...OUCH.
Wow, I think I just lost all respect for you right there. You have the balls to attack the Friday the 13th films and Wes Craven with passion and vigor... But Michael Bay you let walk away SCOTTFREE?!!
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Schindler's List? Munich?

Okay, I will admit I haven;t seen Schindler's List, but it is supposed to be really good. Munich was amazing though. Great acting, script, direction, ect. Just an overall perfect movie.
Well what I meant was that his movies were more consistent 20 years ago. Schindler's List is a beautiful film, and Munich and Jurassic Park were pretty good too. He was just more consistent about 20 years ago.

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Wow, I think I just lost all respect for you right there. You have the balls to attack the Friday the 13th films and Wes Craven with passion and vigor... But Michael Bay you let walk away SCOTTFREE?!!
Oh Jesus FUCKING Christ, here we go again...

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Oh Jesus FUCKING Christ, here we go again...


Frankly, I'm as surprised as you that he has even heard of the word "respect" before.
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Frankly, I'm as surprised as you that he has even heard of the word "respect" before.
Honestly... But like, this is getting ridiculous.

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But what I love most is how he completely missed this:

Matt89: "Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker..."

That's letting him walk away scott free? I fully said he wasn't a good filmmaker and his movies weren't even "good". Whatever...

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But what I love most is how he completely missed this:

Matt89: "Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker..."

That's letting him walk away scott free? I fully said he wasn't a good filmmaker and his movies weren't even "good". Whatever...

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What happened to this being a thread about how much you enjoyed the film? Who cares what genre it is? I just watched the DVD after not seeing the film for over a decade and while it is well made overall it amazes me that 13 people actually said the film is a 10. To me a 10 would be a film that mesmerizes you throughout it's entirety. This film certainly does not. From the slow start to the ridiculous parody of the police officers (not to mention the incredibly dumb scene with the lady driving the truck full of chickens). I still gave the film a 6.
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But what I love most is how he completely missed this:

Matt89: "Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker..."

That's letting him walk away scott free? I fully said he wasn't a good filmmaker and his movies weren't even "good". Whatever...

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I like a lot of Michael Bay movies as well. What can I say, he nows how to blow shit up very well! But I agree, his movies aren't good at all, fun, but far from good. Did he do The Rock? Love that movie!
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Matt TOTALLY loves Michael Bay.

He is watching Bad Boys II right now.
Yeah man ALL the time LOL.

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But what I love most is how he completely missed this:

Matt89: "Actually, I think Armageddon is one of his better films. I mean there's a few of his movies I liked (Pearl Harbor, Transformers) but I wouldn't call them 'good' films. In general, he's a pretty generic filmmaker..."

That's letting him walk away scott free? I fully said he wasn't a good filmmaker and his movies weren't even "good". Whatever...
That's precisely my point. You think that's a criticism? Like I said before, you were much harsher on the Friday the 13th films (and their fans), and Wes Craven. Yet, Michael Bay is far more deserving of hate and disdain. And your opinion is that he's "generic"??!! He's a completely talentless hack!



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