Craven - what happened?

I thought that the movie was disgusting and can't believe it got an "R" rating. They showed many times male's genitals and was disturbed that this movie is geared to the "teen" audience with this kind of crap in it. That's what porn movies are for, not movies made for this kind of audience. Everybody knows that teens will go and see this movie because of T&A alone but that's fine and dandy as long as you leave everything to the imagination and not actually show your privates. Just like Hollywood has been doing for decades. Never in an "R" rated movie have you ever seen a woman's ovaries or a guy's penis. And I certainly don't like the fact that they are planning a sequel... Can you imagine what they will show on this one?

Personally it scares me some of the content in movies these days and Scary Movie is one on the top of my list. I know for a fact that I would not want my daughter seeing this movie! Pretty much everything in this movie had to do with homosexual/something related to the penis jokes.

I know some of the stuff I said is borderline but it's the truth. And I was outraged with this "movie".

The reason people get into an outrage is because the movie is directed towards the "teen" audience and trust me you wouldn't like having your daughter see multiple penises in a single movie. When you go see a horror movie you expect to be scared, might see some blood, and might see some deaths. But that's what you expect to see! Just like in porn movies where you see male/female's privates and they have sex. That's all fine and dandy like I said because it's geared toward the adult audience. But in my opinion Scary Movie was very offensive and got off an "R" rating by luck. I would have had them cut that material then add it as an UNRATED version on a DVD or something but not showing it in theater's where kids are exposed to it. And nobody can tell me different because we all know to what kind of audience Scary Movie is geared towards to and it's sad they got away with it.

Originally posted by Se7en:
The reason people get into an outrage is because the movie is directed towards the "teen" audience and trust me you wouldn't like having your daughter see multiple penises in a single movie. When you go see a horror movie you expect to be scared, might see some blood, and might see some deaths. But that's what you expect to see! Just like in porn movies where you see male/female's privates and they have sex. That's all fine and dandy like I said because it's geared toward the adult audience. But in my opinion Scary Movie was very offensive and got off an "R" rating by luck. I would have had them cut that material then add it as an UNRATED version on a DVD or something but not showing it in theater's where kids are exposed to it. And nobody can tell me different because we all know to what kind of audience Scary Movie is geared towards to and it's sad they got away with it.

Actually I agree with most of your points. Yes it was geared towards a teenaged audience. Yes it was rated incorrectly and should have been NC-17. However, I dont understand your philosophy about the penis. I mean it's a penis. I got one, I assume you do too (unless your a chick, sorry, i don't know you personally) The penis is not scary, it's not freaky and its not shocking. It is kinda funky looking when you think about it though, and it got me into more trouble then i would care to admit to. But its part of life. Do you get offended when you see a pair of boobs on the screen? I have seen them in PG rated movies believe it or not. What is the difference. I saw Se7en the night before Christmas when I was wrapping presents. That movie shocked me a helluva lot more then Scary Movie did. I own both movies but I can go days without thinking about SM while Se7en's ending is something that will stick with me forever. Both movies are rated "R" and yes, Se7en has no penis in it, but I guess it was the first movie that shocked me in a long time. Penises come and go, Scary Movie wasn't the first movie to have one. Ever see Wild Things? Hollow Man? (Kevin Bacon showing his bacon) or Color of Night? (Bruce Willis showing Little Brucey) or Fight Club? (subliminal penis) or Any Given Sunday? (black penis) Its nothing new my friend. Matter of fact, I saw my first on-screen penis when i was 13. And i dont think it effected me at all. I am almost 20 and engaged to be married, and if my cat hadnt died monday i'ld probably be the happiest guy in the world right now. No offence but if you have a daughter who is old enough to go to the movies by herself she has probably already seen a penis, either on screen, in real life, or in Playgirl or a porno (not saying your daughter does this stuff but my first experiance with a Playboy was before I was even interested in girls, one of my friends on the playground had one, so I'm sure most normal middle-income kids are the same) Myself, I wouldnt mind what my kids saw on the screen, as long as they were mature enough to handle what they saw.

By the way, the senseless male nudity was part of the joke. ALl the useless T&A from the 80s that Scary Movie was parodying...get it? Instead of female nudity we got male nudity.

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<i>"You are all my children now!"</i>

Originally posted by Rock:

The last decent SCARY adult horror movie was THE EXORCIST III (okay guys, go ahead and rip me apart on this one)...

While I don't agree about what you said about Craven's old-school movies not being fun cause i think they Rock, as well as Scream. But i agree LHOTL sucked. I will back you up on The Exorcist III the movie just rockes rom start to finish and I am proud to own this on DVD. Superb acting and direction, a HIGHLY underrated movie

[Rock]

Thanks for backing me up on EXORCIST III Jasondog, but let me just clarify that I never thought LHOTL "sucked"...while I found it a depressing and ugly experience, it does possess a powerful, documentary-like intensity that keeps it above a LOT of today's crap...I'd gladly sit through it again before I'll ever watch another "horror" movie w/Jennifer Love-Hewitt or David Arquette in it again...

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Jasondog:
However, I dont understand your philosophy about the penis.

STATEMENT YANKED BY ADMIN - whether you're joking or not, that statement is uncalled for. Lets not start flame wars, guys.




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Exorcist III - now that was a good horror film. I fell asleep twice watching the Exorcist (and it was an evening viewing), but EIII really grabbed me. Brad Dourif was excellent. Blatty's direction was excellent. Acting in general was excellent. That stationary camera shot scene in the corridor with the nurse about to meet her fate was so well done.

I've been a big fan of this film since I first saw it. In fact, I can see why Blatty wanted all that culled footage but back in EI - the removed ending for EI actually follows in to EIII, with the start of the relationship with Kinderman and Father Dyer. I bet if Exorcist had been released in the form the Author wanted it (ie, the story that was not full of plot faults like the theatrical release), EIII would have gotten more positive attention. I have seen comments on EIII from idiot fans of EI like "Exorcist rocks, but Exorcist III sucks. Like, I mean, EIII makes out Dwyer and Kinderman out to be best friends, but in the first film, they never hardly spoke. And there were no little girls masturbating with crucifixes neither".

Of course, Exorcist III stands above on it's own merits, IMHO...

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Oh no, mother! Blood!

Originally posted by joltaddict:
STATEMENT YANKED BY ADMIN - whether you're joking or not, that statement is uncalled for. Lets not start flame wars, guys.

ummmm, i dont get it? Im not starting a flame war and i wasn't really joking i was posting a question within a statement. I have seen far worse posted on this board with downright vulgar words. What is wrong with my statement? I wont post it again, but i would like to know why it is "uncalled for?"

Wait never mind, you pulled someone elses statement, I misread that. But if someone wants to flame me I recommend it done to my e-mail address, notoriousaurus@aol.com instead of wasting serer space.

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by ADMIN :
STATEMENT YANKED BY ADMIN - whether you're joking or not, that statement is uncalled for.

My apologies, I crossed the line with that one. It won't happen again.

[joltaddict]

Originally posted by Jasondog:
if someone wants to flame me I recommend it done to my e-mail address...

It wasn't directed at you it was a very lame attempt at humor that I didn't realize would end up sounding like it did.

[mutleyhyde]

You see? That's the kind of community worth coming back to time and time again. C'mon, hugs, everyone!

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May the Hammer eternally bleed!
M. Hyde

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[Mark Relford]

Originally posted by Jasondog:
Se7en has no penis in it.

Actually it does. The gluttony victim in the morgue.


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"Have you ever had an Egyptian feast?"

"They're back from the grave and ready to party!"

[hojimoji]

And, the penis in Se7en is needlessly large as a tribute to the guy who played the victim. Fincher said they gave him a larger penis to make up for all the make-up prep he had to do. That's some funny stuff.


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Well i guess i am not the peni-phile I thought I was, I guess Se7en does have penis.

Glad to see, everything was all a misunderstanding about the joke though...although i do wish i was here to read it.