Amityville bullshit or Not?

Ash28M · 04-06-2005, 05:46 PM

I'm probably leaning towards it being at least for the most part an over active imagination by George Lutz but seeing the emotion in his eyes, talking about it at Horror Find weekend a couple of years ago. Has at least givin me a more open mind about it.

Here is a link to some good FAQ about the Hoax theory

http://www.amityvillefaq.com/hoax.html#confess

The funny thing to me is that if all this Ghost stuff is garbage. Then why would there be a law in place in most States Including New York that makes it illegal to Sell a house and not tell the new owners that the House is haunted.

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"stigmatized" property laws

Ghosts bedeviled the other major legal case on stigmatized property.
Helen Ackley had boasted about the presence of spirits in her 18-room
Victorian house in Nyack, N. Y., publicizing it in local newspapers and
writing about it in Reader's Digest. But when she agreed to sell the
place in 1989 to a New York City couple, Mrs. Ackley neglected to
mention the ghosts.
When the buyers learned about the alleged haunting before closing on
the deal, they wanted to back out. Calling the sale "a most unnatural
bargain," a New York state appellate court said the seller had to
disclose the reputed presence of the ghosts. The court canceled the
contract and returned most of the buyers' deposit because "the most
meticulous inspection would not have revealed the presence of
poltergeists at the premises or unearthed the property's ghoulish
reputation."

Agent Z · 04-06-2005, 07:01 PM

I have really become interested in this topic as of late. It could have something to do with the remake coming around the corner and all those new shiny boxsets at Best Buy with the documentaries/featurettes on their bonus discs.

I need to do more research before I grab two pennies out of my pocket and throw them into the bucket. Thanks for bringing it back up and for making me remember the earlier thread on this subject.

HAEMORRHAGE · 04-06-2005, 07:09 PM

The hoax is the reason that Part II is my favorite. It's true to the story, well, the original story (you know, the DeFeo murders) before the hoax ..... and well, the first half of the movie anyways, haha.

04-06-2005, 07:15 PM

Yeah cause lord knows I can't stand the Texas Chainsaw Massacre cause it was advertised as a true story and it's not....

04-07-2005, 03:29 AM

This whole Amityville thing is total bullshit. George Lutz was probably drunk off his ass and most likely taking some pretty strong drugs as well. The only true thing about the whole thing is that Ronald DeFeo killed his family while high on coke. But to say the house was actually haunted? Bullshit.

steve_p · 04-07-2005, 03:36 AM

You act as if this movie was ever good. I think the only good Amityville is the 2 one Burt Young aka. Paulie from Rocky

Ash28M · 04-07-2005, 03:41 AM

I like the first Amityville. I never understood why it got so much slack. It's underrated IMO.

adric · 04-07-2005, 03:54 AM

im not much to believe in haunted houses or ghosts, so i think it was a hoax.

steve_p · 04-07-2005, 04:03 AM

how do you watch horror then I mean haunted houses and ghosts are like most of the movies.

rxfiend · 04-07-2005, 04:14 AM

i believe some of it happened, but probably not to the extent that they claimed. I believe there are ghosts out there. However, i'm not gonna try to convert any skeptics, because if you're not gonna believe, i doubt anything would ever change your mind.

indiephantom · 04-07-2005, 04:17 AM

I don't think it's true or a hoax...I just think the Lutzes imagined a lot of it, or were just easily spooked. Paranoia, delusions, etc. They may believe it.

steve_p · 04-07-2005, 04:34 AM

lets just face it the Lutzes were tripping balls and seen some shit that wigged them out .Thats the true story that will be 8.50 I solved it.

adric · 04-07-2005, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve_p

how do you watch horror then I mean haunted houses and ghosts are like most of the movies.

im not saying im not entertained by the notion, but i also dont believe im gonna get possessed by satan or be bit by a vampire either.

steve_p · 04-07-2005, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adric

im not saying im not entertained by the notion, but i also dont believe im gonna get possessed by satan or be bit by a vampire either.

Come on what about the The Exorcist.

dmeister · 04-07-2005, 07:16 AM

It's actually well-documented bullshit. And the current owners seem to like the house just fine. Anson wrote a great book, though.

dmeister

04-06-2005, 05:46 PM	#1
Ash28M HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mississauga, ON, Canada Posts: 5,648	Amityville bullshit or Not? I'm probably leaning towards it being at least for the most part an over active imagination by George Lutz but seeing the emotion in his eyes, talking about it at Horror Find weekend a couple of years ago. Has at least givin me a more open mind about it. Here is a link to some good FAQ about the Hoax theory http://www.amityvillefaq.com/hoax.html#confess The funny thing to me is that if all this Ghost stuff is garbage. Then why would there be a law in place in most States Including New York that makes it illegal to Sell a house and not tell the new owners that the House is haunted. ................................. "stigmatized" property laws Ghosts bedeviled the other major legal case on stigmatized property. Helen Ackley had boasted about the presence of spirits in her 18-room Victorian house in Nyack, N. Y., publicizing it in local newspapers and writing about it in Reader's Digest. But when she agreed to sell the place in 1989 to a New York City couple, Mrs. Ackley neglected to mention the ghosts. When the buyers learned about the alleged haunting before closing on the deal, they wanted to back out. Calling the sale "a most unnatural bargain," a New York state appellate court said the seller had to disclose the reputed presence of the ghosts. The court canceled the contract and returned most of the buyers' deposit because "the most meticulous inspection would not have revealed the presence of poltergeists at the premises or unearthed the property's ghoulish reputation." __________________ My Updated DVD/Blu-Ray Collection My Horror/Movie Reference Books

04-06-2005, 07:01 PM	#2
Agent Z "Get to the river... Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,499	I have really become interested in this topic as of late. It could have something to do with the remake coming around the corner and all those new shiny boxsets at Best Buy with the documentaries/featurettes on their bonus discs. I need to do more research before I grab two pennies out of my pocket and throw them into the bucket. Thanks for bringing it back up and for making me remember the earlier thread on this subject. __________________ ....and get some water for billy!"

04-06-2005, 07:09 PM	#3
HAEMORRHAGE If he dies, he dies Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Westcoast Amityville AKA Vegas Posts: 1,591	The hoax is the reason that Part II is my favorite. It's true to the story, well, the original story (you know, the DeFeo murders) before the hoax ..... and well, the first half of the movie anyways, haha. __________________ Guttural Secrete / My DVD's

04-07-2005, 03:36 AM	#6
steve_p Stalker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pittsburgh,PA Posts: 258	You act as if this movie was ever good. I think the only good Amityville is the 2 one Burt Young aka. Paulie from Rocky __________________ "Hey, this guy's not gonna leak all over my ice cream, is he?"

04-07-2005, 03:41 AM	#7
Ash28M HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mississauga, ON, Canada Posts: 5,648	I like the first Amityville. I never understood why it got so much slack. It's underrated IMO. __________________ My Updated DVD/Blu-Ray Collection My Horror/Movie Reference Books

04-06-2005, 07:15 PM	#4
IGotsNewShoes Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah cause lord knows I can't stand the Texas Chainsaw Massacre cause it was advertised as a true story and it's not....

04-07-2005, 03:29 AM	#5
VideoViolence Guest Posts: n/a	This whole Amityville thing is total bullshit. George Lutz was probably drunk off his ass and most likely taking some pretty strong drugs as well. The only true thing about the whole thing is that Ronald DeFeo killed his family while high on coke. But to say the house was actually haunted? Bullshit.

04-07-2005, 03:54 AM	#8
adric Maniac Join Date: May 2004 Location: D-Town Illinois Posts: 848	im not much to believe in haunted houses or ghosts, so i think it was a hoax. __________________ Peccar's Movie Collection Care to read my random ramblings?? my MySpace My Book of Faces

04-07-2005, 04:03 AM	#9
steve_p Stalker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pittsburgh,PA Posts: 258	how do you watch horror then I mean haunted houses and ghosts are like most of the movies. __________________ "Hey, this guy's not gonna leak all over my ice cream, is he?"

04-07-2005, 04:14 AM	#10
rxfiend Joe Six-Pack Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern IN Posts: 4,067	i believe some of it happened, but probably not to the extent that they claimed. I believe there are ghosts out there. However, i'm not gonna try to convert any skeptics, because if you're not gonna believe, i doubt anything would ever change your mind. __________________ My web domain * Budget DVD mini-reviews

04-07-2005, 04:17 AM	#11
indiephantom Horny Spirit Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ghost World Posts: 3,880	I don't think it's true or a hoax...I just think the Lutzes imagined a lot of it, or were just easily spooked. Paranoia, delusions, etc. They may believe it. __________________ My Collection 2011 2010 2009

04-07-2005, 04:34 AM	#12
steve_p Stalker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pittsburgh,PA Posts: 258	lets just face it the Lutzes were tripping balls and seen some shit that wigged them out .Thats the true story that will be 8.50 I solved it. __________________ "Hey, this guy's not gonna leak all over my ice cream, is he?"

04-07-2005, 07:16 AM	#15
dmeister Maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 956	It's actually well-documented bullshit. And the current owners seem to like the house just fine. Anson wrote a great book, though. dmeister

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