Rate the Hellraiser franchise. - Page 2

KamuiX · 10-06-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DVD-fanatic-9

How many horror films have you seen?

Countless...you know a film is shit when you don't even like it when you're an early teenager completely obsessed with horror films. It makes Pinhead look like a joke by trying to make him into a new slasher superstar, and the new Cenobites are hilariously bad. The film is really more of a disgrace to the franchise IMO than the DTV flicks, which at least keep Pinhead in the role he's supposed to be.

rxfiend · 10-06-2007, 12:31 PM

1. Hellbound
2. Hellraiser
3. Hellseeker
4. Inferno
5. Deader
6. Bloodline
7. Hell on Earth
8. Hellworld

That being said, I enjoy the whole Hellraiser series. It's the only franchise in which I can say that.

BoredSeal · 10-06-2007, 06:42 PM

Hellraiser
Hellraiser 2

Hellraiser 3: Hell on Earth is only decent non-Barker sequel.

I enjoyed Hellraiser: Inferno, but I don't think about it as part of Hellraiser mythology. They put Pinhead for few last minutes as some idiotic explanation of everything what happened to main character before and I hate that - except this, it was decent flick.

Hellraiser: Bloodline was not good enough for me, but at least it kept with mythology.

And other sequels? Total shit. Curses on Dimension Films (or whoever owns the franchise now), they destroyed anything that Barker created with their stupid sequels. I hope they will end in hell and their pain will be legendary even there.

Agent Z · 10-06-2007, 07:56 PM

Holy Moly, I didn't even know there were that many Hellraiser films?!

I won't vote, as I have only seen the first two, but I love what I have seen up to this point at least.

10-06-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KamuiX

Countless...you know a film is shit when you don't even like it when you're an early teenager completely obsessed with horror films. It makes Pinhead look like a joke by trying to make him into a new slasher superstar, and the new Cenobites are hilariously bad. The film is really more of a disgrace to the franchise IMO than the DTV flicks, which at least keep Pinhead in the role he's supposed to be.

Possible spoilers:
I thought the film portrayed the Pinhead character in an interesting light. Where the character was refined and controlled in the first two films, the third shows Pinhead stripped of his humanity and driven solely by his demonic nature. Instead of the cold, impartial arbiter of whatever evil game the box is supposed to represent, we have the murderer and sadist that is left behind when Pinhead's "soul" is ripped away. Perhaps I'm putting too much thought into what doesn't seem to be a very intelligent movie in the first place...

The new cenobites are beyond stupid, though.

Mark Relford · 10-06-2007, 11:55 PM

1. Hellraiser

2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II

3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth- No love for CD Head?

This is a fun sequel even though Pinhead's reduced to a campy Freddy wannabe. His backstory is a nice touch.

4. Hellraiser: Bloodlines- This sequel is a mess. The original director left(?) and Dimension got the asshat responsible for Halloween 6 & Phantoms to salvage anything worthwhile. Some of the new cenobites are cool, but that's very faint praise.

5. Hellraiser: Hellseeker

6. Hellraiser: Inferno- A poor man's Bad Lieutenant mixed with the Hellraiser mythos. This sequel was very laughable. Wasn't there a scene with kickboxing demons?

7. Hellraiser: Hellworld- I fell asleep on this one. I remember the kids going to Lance "I'll do anything for a paycheck." Henriksen's mansion, but that's about it.

Never saw Deader. Lucky for me!

allmessedup · 10-08-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shithead

First 2 only ones worth watching IMO.

Yep. I never even liked the third one--hated the whole concept of the Cenobites being in our world--that removed everything that made the first two films great.

I've seen one of the later installments, and don't remember which one or anything else about it other than that it sucked. Never bothered with any others.

10-15-2007, 08:45 PM

1. Hellraiser
2. Hellbound
3. Hellworld
4. Inferno
5. Hellseeker
6. Hell On Earth
7. Bloodline
8. Deader

I actually liked Hellworld alot... it was different... and twisted.
I despised Deader tho... it was terrible... And I was not a fan of Bloodline either!

zompirejoe · 10-15-2007, 09:52 PM

1.Hellraiser
2. Hellraiser 2
3. Hellraiser 4
4. Hellraiser 3

The rest of them can suck it.......

_pi_ · 11-28-2007, 08:10 PM

I've been watching the post-Hellbound sequels to Hellraiser for the past few days. Hellraiser 3 was the only one I'd seen before and I was quite surprised to discover it was even worse than I had remembered. Really awful. Completely inept filmmaking. I was very surprised with Bloodline, which was actually pretty good and suspenseful at times. I'd like to see the original cut. And even though it was cheesy, I did like that the film was set in the past, present and future. Nice touch.

After that, things get progressively worse. In fact, I bet none of the subsequent sequels (except for Hellseeker) were written as Hellraiser movies, rather that they were existing scripts that were rewritten to incorporate Hellraiser motifs. That goes especially to Hellworld, which is just a completely different movie with Pinhead making a cameo appearance.

I thought Inferno was ok, nothing special. Hellseeker was worse, but still watchable. Deader was just a complete waste of time and unutterably boring. I am only rating Hellraiser 3 higher because it was more "fun" (that's not really the right word, though ...), but those two are definitely the nadirs of the series. Because of how awful Deader was, I almost gave up on Hellworld before I even started watching it, and for the first 20 minutes or so, I thought it was going to suck even harder than Deader. I mean, teenagers? Self-referential post-modern dialogue? Rick Bota directing again?

Thankfully I kept watching, only because I wanted to see what the hell Lance Henriksen was doing in the film, and I ended up liking it quite a lot. I mean, if you take all the Pinhead/Cenobite stuff out, this is quite an enjoyable little slasher movie. It's not without flaws and I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone, but it's fun nevertheless. And it's got some cool deaths and bloodspurts.

So I would rank the franchise as follows:

Hellraiser
Hellbound
Bloodline
Hellworld
Inferno
Hellseeker
Hell on Earth
Deader

fattyjoe37 · 06-07-2012, 11:49 PM

I just watched the OG Hellraiser series (1-8, with Doug Bradley as Pinhead) for the first time. I had seen I & II about a decade ago when I first was getting into DVDs, but didn't like them enough to continue the series. Overall I'd say that this series isn't as bad as I'd been led to believe based on reviews. Although the first is the only one that I'd consider a really good movie (I enjoyed it much more this time than I did on first viewing), the majority of the sequels are decent. I'd been hearing for years about how everything after 2 was a major turd and I was surprised to find myself being entertained by most of them and not hating any except for Hellworld. I still enjoy the classic 3 80s franchises more (Friday, Nightmare, Halloween), but this series can stand a little below them and not have to hang out with the Amityville and Howling series at the bottom of the barrel.

My ranking of the franchise would go:
1. Hellraiser
2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II
3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth
4. Hellraiser: Hellseeker
5. Hellraiser: Inferno
6. Hellraiser: Deader
7. Hellraiser: Bloodline
8. Hellraiser: Hellworld

Cooperkill · 06-08-2012, 04:16 AM

These I like:

Hellraiser
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth
Hellbound: Hellraiser II
Hellraiser: Inferno

These I don't:

Hellraiser: Deader
Hellraiser: Hellseeker
Hellraiser: Hellworld
Hellraiser: Bloodline
Hellraiser: Revelations

Am I the only one who's seen Revelations? I envy all of you. It's horrible.

Body Boy · 06-08-2012, 07:09 AM

Well Cooper, most of these posts were made BEFORE Revelations.

I've only seen 5 of them, and I'd rate them as so:

1. Hellraiser - love
2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II - love
3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - entertaining
4. Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - dumb, but some good scenes
5. Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - fucking hated it; awful

I think that I am going to watch Inferno now. Just because I should be finishing this series.

startide · 06-08-2012, 07:42 AM

There are nine Hellraiser films? OMG. I was tapped out after the first, I don't think I could stomach another eight...

JGrendel · 06-08-2012, 08:57 AM

Hellraiser
Hellbound: Hellraiser II
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth
Hellraiser: Bloodline
Hellraiser: Inferno
Hellraiser: Hellseeker
Hellraiser: Deader
Hellraiser: Hellworld
Hellraiser: Revelations

10-06-2007, 12:31 PM	#17
rxfiend Joe Six-Pack Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern IN Posts: 4,054	1. Hellbound 2. Hellraiser 3. Hellseeker 4. Inferno 5. Deader 6. Bloodline 7. Hell on Earth 8. Hellworld That being said, I enjoy the whole Hellraiser series. It's the only franchise in which I can say that. __________________ My web domain * Night Screams BLOG

10-06-2007, 07:56 PM	#19
Agent Z "Get to the river... Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,499	Holy Moly, I didn't even know there were that many Hellraiser films?! I won't vote, as I have only seen the first two, but I love what I have seen up to this point at least. __________________ ....and get some water for billy!"

10-06-2007, 11:55 PM	#21
Mark Relford Chairman of the Bored Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Indy Posts: 2,610	The viewer wept. 1. Hellraiser 2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II 3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth- No love for CD Head? This is a fun sequel even though Pinhead's reduced to a campy Freddy wannabe. His backstory is a nice touch. 4. Hellraiser: Bloodlines- This sequel is a mess. The original director left(?) and Dimension got the asshat responsible for Halloween 6 & Phantoms to salvage anything worthwhile. Some of the new cenobites are cool, but that's very faint praise. 5. Hellraiser: Hellseeker 6. Hellraiser: Inferno- A poor man's Bad Lieutenant mixed with the Hellraiser mythos. This sequel was very laughable. Wasn't there a scene with kickboxing demons? 7. Hellraiser: Hellworld- I fell asleep on this one. I remember the kids going to Lance "I'll do anything for a paycheck." Henriksen's mansion, but that's about it. Never saw Deader. Lucky for me! __________________ "Have you ever had an Egyptian feast?"

11-28-2007, 08:10 PM	#25
_pi_ Peace, bitch Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Iceland Posts: 2,620	I've been watching the post-Hellbound sequels to Hellraiser for the past few days. Hellraiser 3 was the only one I'd seen before and I was quite surprised to discover it was even worse than I had remembered. Really awful. Completely inept filmmaking. I was very surprised with Bloodline, which was actually pretty good and suspenseful at times. I'd like to see the original cut. And even though it was cheesy, I did like that the film was set in the past, present and future. Nice touch. After that, things get progressively worse. In fact, I bet none of the subsequent sequels (except for Hellseeker) were written as Hellraiser movies, rather that they were existing scripts that were rewritten to incorporate Hellraiser motifs. That goes especially to Hellworld, which is just a completely different movie with Pinhead making a cameo appearance. I thought Inferno was ok, nothing special. Hellseeker was worse, but still watchable. Deader was just a complete waste of time and unutterably boring. I am only rating Hellraiser 3 higher because it was more "fun" (that's not really the right word, though ...), but those two are definitely the nadirs of the series. Because of how awful Deader was, I almost gave up on Hellworld before I even started watching it, and for the first 20 minutes or so, I thought it was going to suck even harder than Deader. I mean, teenagers? Self-referential post-modern dialogue? Rick Bota directing again? Thankfully I kept watching, only because I wanted to see what the hell Lance Henriksen was doing in the film, and I ended up liking it quite a lot. I mean, if you take all the Pinhead/Cenobite stuff out, this is quite an enjoyable little slasher movie. It's not without flaws and I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone, but it's fun nevertheless. And it's got some cool deaths and bloodspurts. So I would rank the franchise as follows: Hellraiser Hellbound Bloodline Hellworld Inferno Hellseeker Hell on Earth Deader __________________ "Compared to her I'm just some bland, flappy hausfrau." Baby, there ain't nothing good about this goodbye.

06-07-2012, 11:49 PM	#26
fattyjoe37 HackMaster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: WA Posts: 1,501	I just watched the OG Hellraiser series (1-8, with Doug Bradley as Pinhead) for the first time. I had seen I & II about a decade ago when I first was getting into DVDs, but didn't like them enough to continue the series. Overall I'd say that this series isn't as bad as I'd been led to believe based on reviews. Although the first is the only one that I'd consider a really good movie (I enjoyed it much more this time than I did on first viewing), the majority of the sequels are decent. I'd been hearing for years about how everything after 2 was a major turd and I was surprised to find myself being entertained by most of them and not hating any except for Hellworld. I still enjoy the classic 3 80s franchises more (Friday, Nightmare, Halloween), but this series can stand a little below them and not have to hang out with the Amityville and Howling series at the bottom of the barrel. My ranking of the franchise would go: 1. Hellraiser 2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II 3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth 4. Hellraiser: Hellseeker 5. Hellraiser: Inferno 6. Hellraiser: Deader 7. Hellraiser: Bloodline 8. Hellraiser: Hellworld __________________ Sader Ridge: A Feature Length Horror Film A Visitor in the Night: A Short Horror Film My DVD Collection

10-06-2007, 06:42 PM	#18
BoredSeal Stalker Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 258	Hellraiser Hellraiser 2 Hellraiser 3: Hell on Earth is only decent non-Barker sequel. I enjoyed Hellraiser: Inferno, but I don't think about it as part of Hellraiser mythology. They put Pinhead for few last minutes as some idiotic explanation of everything what happened to main character before and I hate that - except this, it was decent flick. Hellraiser: Bloodline was not good enough for me, but at least it kept with mythology. And other sequels? Total shit. Curses on Dimension Films (or whoever owns the franchise now), they destroyed anything that Barker created with their stupid sequels. I hope they will end in hell and their pain will be legendary even there.

10-15-2007, 08:45 PM	#23
jsonthegreat Guest Posts: n/a	1. Hellraiser 2. Hellbound 3. Hellworld 4. Inferno 5. Hellseeker 6. Hell On Earth 7. Bloodline 8. Deader I actually liked Hellworld alot... it was different... and twisted. I despised Deader tho... it was terrible... And I was not a fan of Bloodline either!

10-15-2007, 09:52 PM	#24
zompirejoe Maniac Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ocean City, Maryland Posts: 815	1.Hellraiser 2. Hellraiser 2 3. Hellraiser 4 4. Hellraiser 3 The rest of them can suck it.......

06-08-2012, 04:16 AM	#27
Cooperkill Victim Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 137	These I like: Hellraiser Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth Hellbound: Hellraiser II Hellraiser: Inferno These I don't: Hellraiser: Deader Hellraiser: Hellseeker Hellraiser: Hellworld Hellraiser: Bloodline Hellraiser: Revelations Am I the only one who's seen Revelations? I envy all of you. It's horrible. __________________ http://www.splattercritic.com

06-08-2012, 07:09 AM	#28
Body Boy HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Posts: 1,448	Well Cooper, most of these posts were made BEFORE Revelations. I've only seen 5 of them, and I'd rate them as so: 1. Hellraiser - love 2. Hellbound: Hellraiser II - love 3. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - entertaining 4. Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - dumb, but some good scenes 5. Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - fucking hated it; awful I think that I am going to watch Inferno now. Just because I should be finishing this series. __________________ www.oh-the-horror.com... ...DVD Collection (most of it)

06-08-2012, 07:42 AM	#29
startide Stalker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Hamilton High Posts: 319	There are nine Hellraiser films? OMG. I was tapped out after the first, I don't think I could stomach another eight...

06-08-2012, 08:57 AM	#30
JGrendel HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Olds Alberta Canada Posts: 1,877	Hellraiser Hellbound: Hellraiser II Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth Hellraiser: Bloodline Hellraiser: Inferno Hellraiser: Hellseeker Hellraiser: Deader Hellraiser: Hellworld Hellraiser: Revelations

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