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Old 02-14-2009, 08:23 AM   #211
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Old 02-14-2009, 06:52 PM   #212
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I don't think Don has any rights to screen the footage though. This certainly goes well beyond fair use. Yes he owns the physical footage but that does not include any rights to distribute what is someone else's intellectual property.

So you can give Don all the money you want for a restoration but you're not going to see a frame of it until the rights owners say so. Someone, I'm sure, can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:29 PM   #213
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I don't think Don has any rights to screen the footage though. This certainly goes well beyond fair use. Yes he owns the physical footage but that does not include any rights to distribute what is someone else's intellectual property.

So you can give Don all the money you want for a restoration but you're not going to see a frame of it until the rights owners say so. Someone, I'm sure, can correct me if I'm wrong.
I could invite all the "investors" over to my house to watch it all, though... I'd most definitely need a bigger house. Haha!
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:43 PM   #214
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Assuming you go so far as to set up a Paypal account, get everything transferred, buy a bigger house AND show the footage, I have one further question:

Will there be pie?
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:00 AM   #215
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I could invite all the "investors" over to my house to watch it all, though... I'd most definitely need a bigger house. Haha!
Wouldn't you also need to send out screener DVDs to your investors so that they're able to see the progress of their investment? Clearly they have a right to see where all their had earned money's going!
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:42 AM   #216
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ArrowBeach... We have all the negative trims, outtakes and bloopers from the original negatives...

The negatives that we have are all the shots that were NEVER used... all the outtakes, different shots/scenes, deleted stuff and bloopers. We basically have all the camera negatives for all the scenes shot for the entire film. There is a camera negative for HALLOWEEN that the studio has... but our negatives are all the material that was discarded and not edited into the finished feature, so we would have scenes, shots and alternate takes that no one has seen in 30+ years.

After getting the materials, I called editor Tommy Lee Wallace, and he told me all kinds of stuff that didn't make it into the movie and, he says, we probably have it all. Like, in the "clothesline" sequence, for example... Carpenter shot it a totally different way at first and didn't like the way it came out, so he shot it again differently and that's the way it appears in the film. We probably have the original version. Also, Wallace, says, contrary to both the novelization and the scripts that are available... they DIDN'T have Michael live originally. They killed him... for good... Only a few days after shooting wrapped, over some beers, did Carpenter decide to reshoot the ending and have him live. Wallace was floored at the prospect of us possibly having the original "Michael dies" ending in all our boxes.

So, we possibly have a treasure trove of unseen material.
wow...i think there would be a HUGE interest in seeing all this!!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:31 AM   #217
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:40 AM   #218
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Perhaps they didn't like being asked so many questions. Haha. The same thing happened at the 'old' retro slashers board. I asked them if they could release Night Warning, and they tried telling me it wasn't a slasher. Then someone got behind me, and we started begging...then they left the board...lol...and two months later, Night Warning is announced for DVD. >.> A small price to pay, I say.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:01 AM   #219
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ArrowBeach... We have all the negative trims, outtakes and bloopers from the original negatives...

The negatives that we have are all the shots that were NEVER used... all the outtakes, different shots/scenes, deleted stuff and bloopers. We basically have all the camera negatives for all the scenes shot for the entire film. There is a camera negative for HALLOWEEN that the studio has... but our negatives are all the material that was discarded and not edited into the finished feature, so we would have scenes, shots and alternate takes that no one has seen in 30+ years.

After getting the materials, I called editor Tommy Lee Wallace, and he told me all kinds of stuff that didn't make it into the movie and, he says, we probably have it all. Like, in the "clothesline" sequence, for example... Carpenter shot it a totally different way at first and didn't like the way it came out, so he shot it again differently and that's the way it appears in the film. We probably have the original version. Also, Wallace, says, contrary to both the novelization and the scripts that are available... they DIDN'T have Michael live originally. They killed him... for good... Only a few days after shooting wrapped, over some beers, did Carpenter decide to reshoot the ending and have him live. Wallace was floored at the prospect of us possibly having the original "Michael dies" ending in all our boxes.

So, we possibly have a treasure trove of unseen material.
I'm just wondering why, then Don, have you not investigated it further to see what you've got? Make some splices, throw it up on a 35mm projector after hours and do some poor man's telecine on it just to check out what the positive would look like. This is potential holy grail footage here, I can't understand why you haven't pushed to explore it further after all this time.
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I'm just wondering why, then Don, have you not investigated it further to see what you've got? Make some splices, throw it up on a 35mm projector after hours and do some poor man's telecine on it just to check out what the positive would look like. This is potential holy grail footage here, I can't understand why you haven't pushed to explore it further after all this time.
I don't think you can project a negative, and he probably wouldnt want to run the negative in any old projector even if he could. Best he make friends with a dude in a post house and have him do a cheap real telecine after hours like I did.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:31 AM   #221
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Perhaps they didn't like being asked so many questions. Haha. The same thing happened at the 'old' retro slashers board. I asked them if they could release Night Warning, and they tried telling me it wasn't a slasher. Then someone got behind me, and we started begging...then they left the board...lol...and two months later, Night Warning is announced for DVD. >.> A small price to pay, I say.
I actually have to agree that it's not a slasher. Terrific film, but to me, it just doesn't fit the slasher archetype.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:59 AM   #223
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I don't think you can project a negative, and he probably wouldnt want to run the negative in any old projector even if he could. Best he make friends with a dude in a post house and have him do a cheap real telecine after hours like I did.
I wouldn't run it through a projector because I wouldn't want to ruin anything. It's negative, not print material.

But, running it in a post house would take hours and hours of time (we're talking thousands of feet of film here, folks) and I don't want to pay out of pocket to look at it. There's prep, cleaning, splicing, logging and transferring involved. Wanna send me a check for a few grand and come on over? Then we'll reach in those boxes like we're bobbing for apples and pull random stuff out and look! I did grab a tiny reel and ship it to LA when I was doing a transfer last year, just to look at it, and it was a blooper with Nancy Loomis and Kyle Richards in the laundry room. Nancy is stuck in the window and Kyle didn't quite know how she was supposed to act to help the actress get "unstuck" from the window, so she just tries, fails, turns to the camera and shrugs.







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Old 02-20-2009, 01:43 AM   #225
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Seriously, If I were Paris Hilton rich I would cut that check for restoration in a heartbeat. I'm not kidding.
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