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Old 03-17-2014, 10:03 PM   #1561
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Temple of Doom is better than Last Crusade.
upon revisiting both, agreed.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:18 PM   #1562
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Temple of doom is gimmicky garbage with horrible sidekicks, almost unwatchable.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:26 PM   #1563
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Temple of doom is gimmicky garbage with horrible sidekicks, almost unwatchable.
Disagree. Granted I saw it at a press screening a week before it opened and I was, I think, 10 years old (meaning it is burned in as a GREAT childhood memory), but I _LOVE_ Temple of Doom. It's everything that the first one was not. Love interest was a u-turn from Marion, having a non-Sallah side kick was great - new land, new adventure. And it it just goes ALL KINDS of crazy adventure in the final act. If I wasn't at work, I'd watch it right now.

It's biggest crime is it is the anti-Raiders. Last Crusade tried to go back to the well and it just felt like Raiders at 50% power for me. I'd rather have seen something new.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:35 PM   #1564
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I saw Temple and Last Crusade in the theaters as well during their initial runs. Kate Capshaw, Short Round, Sankara Stones and Mola Ram are all equally awful. As soon as Indy gets on the plane in Temple, the movie becomes awful in my opinion (not Crystal Skull awful, that's a whole different kind). Crusade had better moments imo.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:38 PM   #1565
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I saw Temple and Last Crusade in the theaters as well during their initial runs. Kate Capshaw, Short Round Sankara Stones and Mola Ram are all equally awful. As soon as Indy gets on the plane in Temple, the movie becomes awful in my opinion (not Crystal Skull awful, that's a whole different kind). Crusade had better moments imo.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:55 PM   #1566
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You definitely did not drink the blood of Kali.
No, but I did find Sivalinga, and bring back.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:22 AM   #1567
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Disagree. Granted I saw it at a press screening a week before it opened and I was, I think, 10 years old (meaning it is burned in as a GREAT childhood memory), but I _LOVE_ Temple of Doom. It's everything that the first one was not. Love interest was a u-turn from Marion, having a non-Sallah side kick was great - new land, new adventure. And it it just goes ALL KINDS of crazy adventure in the final act. If I wasn't at work, I'd watch it right now.

It's biggest crime is it is the anti-Raiders. Last Crusade tried to go back to the well and it just felt like Raiders at 50% power for me. I'd rather have seen something new.
I saw Temple of Doom at the theatre as a kid and like dit but as an adult, its pathetic.
To me Last Crusade is like Raiders at 150%
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I saw Temple of Doom at the theatre as a kid and like dit but as an adult, its pathetic.
To me Last Crusade is like Raiders at 150%
I disagree. Raiders is a perfect movie. Last Crusade is entertaining, but flawed.
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I disagree. Raiders is a perfect movie. Last Crusade is entertaining, but flawed.
Raiders IS a perfect movie. We agree there.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:42 AM   #1570
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Temple of Doom is better than Last Crusade.

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I'll lend my voice in support of this. Temple gets better each time I watch it. Crusade seems to get a little less impressive with each viewing. It's like a collection of entertaining moments, that somehow never quite pulls together and ends up being sort of unsatisfying when it's all over.

Temple was actually the first Indy movie I saw, on VHS.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:44 AM   #1571
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I'll chime in to support Temple as well. Particularly over Crusade.

Yes, Short-Round and Kate Capshaw were annoying. But all the action sequences were top-notch, especially the mine cart chase.

But, Crusade made Indy to more of a buffoon with the revelations of his Daddy issues and the idea that he took his name from the family dog. And the Pro-Reagan, conservative subtext that runs through the first two films comes front and center in this one and that always rubbed me the wrong way.

As much as people like to blast Crystal Skull for "ruining" Indy, I always felt that Crusade did more damage.

But, I will give Crusade props for the tank chase. That was pretty sweet.
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Making Brody and Sallah oafish in Crusade didn't help.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:11 AM   #1574
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Temple gets better each time I watch it.
I agree as well.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:24 PM   #1575
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Yeah I find I like Crusade less and less every time I watch it. Raiders is no doubt the best of the series, but I definitely enjoy Temple of Doom much more. The film grabs your attention right away (which raiders also does) but I think the action is more even throughout Temple of Doom. And the scene in the temple in the last act of the film is honestly, super fucked up. My roommate who had never seen the film (who is an adult btw, watching it for the first time) was like "wow Spielberg. That was DARK." Neither Raiders nor Crusade really go "there" the way Temple of Doom does.

It's funny, now that I think of it, when it comes to 80s trilogies I almost always enjoy the 2nd one more. I love Back to the Future, but I've definitely watched Back to the Future Part II more. Part III for me is like Crusade. And with Star Wars, same deal. I've seen Empire like a million times more than A New Hope (although I believe that's probably pretty common) but I like A New Hope more than Jedi.

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