Tim Burton is...

rhett · 12-08-2007, 09:25 PM

SWEENEY TODD is coming out soon, and already Burton has won a best director honor from the National Board of Review. Is he merely cannibalizing the themes of German Expressionism for the masses, or is he a bona fide artist worth canonizing? One of the best, one of the worst, somewhere in between...you decide.

dwatts · 12-08-2007, 09:35 PM

In between. I've seen clips from Sweeney Todd and shall be giving it a wide berth.

Ash J. Williams · 12-08-2007, 09:40 PM

Crap crap crap. Voted for the wrong damned thing. Meant to vote the top one, voted the one that's just barely not the top one.

12-08-2007, 10:23 PM

Hit and miss

maybrick · 12-08-2007, 10:32 PM

He's great, but I've kind of lost faith in him since PLANET OF THE APES. He's been rather hit and miss ever since.

KR~! · 12-08-2007, 11:44 PM

Hit and miss

his hits are true gems, but his misses are unwatchable

othervoice1 · 12-09-2007, 01:06 AM

Overall I would say "A great, visionary filmmaker" compared to most of hollywood- He does have some bad ones so it was between this and the Hit and Miss choice

DVD-fanatic-9 · 12-09-2007, 02:18 AM

Oh, fuck that poll result (no offense to anyone). Every filmmaker is hit and miss. But Tim Burton stands out from the crowd. Everyone knows it. And that's because he is a filmmaker with vision. Whether we always like it or not.

Spit · 12-09-2007, 02:21 AM

The downfall of Tim Burton has been a sad one...Everything was all fine and dandy till about '99. Did something tramatic happen to the guy? Or did just just wake up one morning and say to himself " hmm..I'm out of good ideas, oh well I guess I'll go remake Planet of the Apes'?

DVD-fanatic-9 · 12-09-2007, 02:22 AM

So you think his decision to remake Planet of the Apes destroyed him? What- were you obsessed with the original movie(s)?

Spit · 12-09-2007, 02:29 AM

He had a really good run of hits Beetle Juice, Batman, Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, Ed Wood, Mars Attacks... Honestly I wasnt really a fan of Sleepy Hollow, but it was alright.... I havent liked anything hes done after Sleepy Hollow. Burton just sort of 'fell off'.

adric · 12-09-2007, 02:30 AM

hes hit and miss, but hate both batman's. i hate him but like most his movies. i do believe he is pompous and over rated though.

othervoice1 · 12-09-2007, 02:37 AM

The Corpse Bride was released in 2005 I believe and I loved it- wasnt the masterpiece that Nightmare before Christmas was - but it wasnt far behind IMO

maybrick · 12-09-2007, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVD-fanatic-9

So you think his decision to remake Planet of the Apes destroyed him? What- were you obsessed with the original movie(s)?

You don't have to be an obsessive fanboy of the original Apes series to realize that that was the point where Burton "jumped the shark". From start to finish, it was simply and utterly an awful, AWFUL movie. Plus on top of that, it didn't even feel like Burton's work. It positively screamed of studio intervention and "sellout".

The Chaostar · 12-09-2007, 04:53 AM

Was great up until Planet.

He's not crazy anymore. He's a normal person filming crazy things. That is not the same thing.

View Poll Results: Tim Burton is...
A great, visionary filmmaker	35	31.53%
Good, but too self-consciously strange	22	19.82%
Hit and miss	40	36.04%
Below average, I only like one or two of his films	8	7.21%
A pompous, esoteric hack	6	5.41%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

12-08-2007, 09:25 PM	#1
rhett Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 8,874	Tim Burton is... SWEENEY TODD is coming out soon, and already Burton has won a best director honor from the National Board of Review. Is he merely cannibalizing the themes of German Expressionism for the masses, or is he a bona fide artist worth canonizing? One of the best, one of the worst, somewhere in between...you decide. __________________ "It's a good scream...it's a good scream..."

12-08-2007, 09:40 PM	#3
Ash J. Williams Maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 630	Crap crap crap. Voted for the wrong damned thing. Meant to vote the top one, voted the one that's just barely not the top one. __________________ www.justpressplay.net - SaulB

12-08-2007, 10:32 PM	#5
maybrick HackMaster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Keene, NH Posts: 8,623	He's great, but I've kind of lost faith in him since PLANET OF THE APES. He's been rather hit and miss ever since. __________________ "This is where we live, Shelly!"

12-08-2007, 11:44 PM	#6
KR~! The Apocalyptic Kid Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In Hel's Womb Posts: 5,462	Hit and miss his hits are true gems, but his misses are unwatchable __________________ We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe. - Johann von Goethe

12-08-2007, 09:35 PM	#2
dwatts HackMaster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crashed Posts: 16,580	In between. I've seen clips from Sweeney Todd and shall be giving it a wide berth.

12-08-2007, 10:23 PM	#4
Vlachio Guest Posts: n/a	Hit and miss

12-09-2007, 01:06 AM	#7
othervoice1 HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,385	Overall I would say "A great, visionary filmmaker" compared to most of hollywood- He does have some bad ones so it was between this and the Hit and Miss choice __________________ 'Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love... the clarity of hatred... and the ecstasy of grief.' Angel Passion

12-09-2007, 02:18 AM	#8
DVD-fanatic-9 Thinking Cannot Hurt You Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,446	Oh, fuck that poll result (no offense to anyone). Every filmmaker is hit and miss. But Tim Burton stands out from the crowd. Everyone knows it. And that's because he is a filmmaker with vision. Whether we always like it or not. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/therachelmaddowshow Just 'cuz, you should be reading it. Don't Buy Puppies Online or at a Pet Store, Do NOT Support This

12-09-2007, 02:21 AM	#9
Spit HackMaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Ice Planet Hoth (aka WY) Posts: 1,047	The downfall of Tim Burton has been a sad one...Everything was all fine and dandy till about '99. Did something tramatic happen to the guy? Or did just just wake up one morning and say to himself " hmm..I'm out of good ideas, oh well I guess I'll go remake Planet of the Apes'? __________________ It wasn't my fault! It was the Percodan! - Krusty the Clown When your a drug addict, its important to pace yourself -Bill What I watched 2 years ago, What I watched last year, What I've been watching This Year last.fm is my latest addiction: teufel999 I also tumblr: cobraarcade.tumblr.com

12-09-2007, 02:22 AM	#10
DVD-fanatic-9 Thinking Cannot Hurt You Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,446	So you think his decision to remake Planet of the Apes destroyed him? What- were you obsessed with the original movie(s)? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/therachelmaddowshow Just 'cuz, you should be reading it. Don't Buy Puppies Online or at a Pet Store, Do NOT Support This

12-09-2007, 02:29 AM	#11
Spit HackMaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Ice Planet Hoth (aka WY) Posts: 1,047	He had a really good run of hits Beetle Juice, Batman, Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, Ed Wood, Mars Attacks... Honestly I wasnt really a fan of Sleepy Hollow, but it was alright.... I havent liked anything hes done after Sleepy Hollow. Burton just sort of 'fell off'. __________________ It wasn't my fault! It was the Percodan! - Krusty the Clown When your a drug addict, its important to pace yourself -Bill What I watched 2 years ago, What I watched last year, What I've been watching This Year last.fm is my latest addiction: teufel999 I also tumblr: cobraarcade.tumblr.com

12-09-2007, 02:30 AM	#12
adric Maniac Join Date: May 2004 Location: D-Town Illinois Posts: 848	hes hit and miss, but hate both batman's. i hate him but like most his movies. i do believe he is pompous and over rated though. __________________ Peccar's Movie Collection Care to read my random ramblings?? my MySpace My Book of Faces Last edited by adric; 12-09-2007 at 02:33 AM.

12-09-2007, 02:37 AM	#13
othervoice1 HackMaster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,385	The Corpse Bride was released in 2005 I believe and I loved it- wasnt the masterpiece that Nightmare before Christmas was - but it wasnt far behind IMO __________________ 'Passion is the source of our finest moments. The joy of love... the clarity of hatred... and the ecstasy of grief.' Angel Passion

12-09-2007, 04:53 AM	#15
The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell-as Posts: 4,257	Was great up until Planet. He's not crazy anymore. He's a normal person filming crazy things. That is not the same thing. __________________ "Only on Horrordvds.com could a well intentioned get well thread turn into an infomercial about the propensity for testicular perspiration". There Is No Freedom, Wake Up.

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