soavis the church vs carpenters prince of darkness

12-11-2007, 10:06 PM

Both of these films deal with the reemergence and resurfacing of an ancient primal evil and the resulting contagion for the unlucky discoverers but imo soavis approach to this material is more solemn and effective for that reason. The inside of the chuch is so bizarre and foreboding that evil really seems to be at home in this environment. carpenters film had the green swirling liquid that was evil personified but it was very superficial compared to soavis film imo. comments?

12-11-2007, 10:17 PM

I love The Church. It has some very interesting camera work.
Both movies capture a surreal feeling of dread. I actually prefer POD.I like how Prince of Darkness utilizes science in its plot. Science and religion are used together to uncover the supernatural-evil. This way even if you aren't christian, catholic or whatnot theres no excuse of "I don't believe in God". In this film science helps prove the devil is real.

It gets better and better with ever viewing. It's by far one of my favorite movies.

dwatts · 12-11-2007, 10:34 PM

The Church.

wago70 · 12-12-2007, 12:11 AM

Prince Of Darkness

Ash28M · 12-12-2007, 12:42 AM

The Church

DrHerbertWest · 12-12-2007, 02:01 AM

The Church put me to sleep. Twice.

I haven't seen Prince Of Darkness yet but I'd really like to.

zompirejoe · 12-12-2007, 02:24 AM

Extremely tough call. THE CHURCH is great but PRINCE OF DARKNESS wins out.

Katatonia · 12-12-2007, 10:32 AM

I really love both movies, but I'd have to go with Prince of Darkness.

BoredSeal · 12-12-2007, 06:55 PM

I love both movies very much, but I prefer John Carpenter´s Donald Pleasence vs Green liquid.

maybrick · 12-12-2007, 07:03 PM

The Church I would need to see again. Haven't seen it since Anchor Bay released it on DVD and I don't remember much about it other than it wasn't as good as Demons.

Prince of Darkness on the other hand is an underappreciated masterpiece. I didn't care for it either the first time I watched it but it grows on me more and more every single time. I love it. Who knows, maybe The Church would be the same way if I gave it a second chance. I've been meaning to, but just haven't gotten around to it.

Paff · 12-12-2007, 08:19 PM

Prince of Darkness has never "worked" for me. I've tried, seeing as how some people here often refer to it as "underrated", "masterpiece", "grows on you", etc. I think part of the problem is that I TRY to like it. That never works. I think some night I'll just have it in the player, and suddenly it will all hit me. I hope so, at least.

The Church is dumb, but in a Euro-dumb kind of way, thus making it a lot of fun. In other words, style over substance, randomness in the plot, but altogether endearing. Actually, I dig it a lot.

Maybe there's a double feature in my near future...

The Chaostar · 12-13-2007, 01:26 AM

Excellent poll! Great choice of films, really!

It was tough. But Carpenter has many great films in his CV so I happily went with La Chiesa.
Why?
Well... Prince hasn't got a GOBLIN/KEITH EMERSON/PHILLIP GLASS soundtrack.

DVD-fanatic-9 · 12-15-2007, 05:46 PM

Haven't seen Prince of Darkness yet. The Church was really stupid and the special effects were horrible.

12-15-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chaostar

Excellent poll! Great choice of films, really!

It was tough. But Carpenter has many great films in his CV so I happily went with La Chiesa.
Why?
Well... Prince hasn't got a GOBLIN/KEITH EMERSON/PHILLIP GLASS soundtrack.

Hell yeah! Gotta love that soundtrack!!

DeathDealer · 12-15-2007, 08:25 PM

The Church is brilliant. Prince of Darkness is very good.

12-11-2007, 10:06 PM	#1
blood vamp Guest Posts: n/a	soavis the church vs carpenters prince of darkness Both of these films deal with the reemergence and resurfacing of an ancient primal evil and the resulting contagion for the unlucky discoverers but imo soavis approach to this material is more solemn and effective for that reason. The inside of the chuch is so bizarre and foreboding that evil really seems to be at home in this environment. carpenters film had the green swirling liquid that was evil personified but it was very superficial compared to soavis film imo. comments?

12-12-2007, 12:42 AM	#5
Ash28M HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mississauga, ON, Canada Posts: 5,640	The Church __________________ My Updated DVD/Blu-Ray Collection My Horror/Movie Reference Books

12-12-2007, 02:01 AM	#6
DrHerbertWest For Your Health Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 4,007	The Church put me to sleep. Twice. I haven't seen Prince Of Darkness yet but I'd really like to. __________________ "Send more paramedics."

12-12-2007, 10:32 AM	#8
Katatonia Hellbound Heart Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 15,901	I really love both movies, but I'd have to go with Prince of Darkness. __________________ "The machines are faster and the bombs are worse, as we're all sucked into this unholy curse." - Saint Vitus - War Is Our Destiny DVD Profiler Collection

12-12-2007, 07:03 PM	#10
maybrick HackMaster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Keene, NH Posts: 8,624	The Church I would need to see again. Haven't seen it since Anchor Bay released it on DVD and I don't remember much about it other than it wasn't as good as Demons. Prince of Darkness on the other hand is an underappreciated masterpiece. I didn't care for it either the first time I watched it but it grows on me more and more every single time. I love it. Who knows, maybe The Church would be the same way if I gave it a second chance. I've been meaning to, but just haven't gotten around to it. __________________ "This is where we live, Shelly!"

12-11-2007, 10:17 PM	#2
Dbone Guest Posts: n/a	I love The Church. It has some very interesting camera work. Both movies capture a surreal feeling of dread. I actually prefer POD.I like how Prince of Darkness utilizes science in its plot. Science and religion are used together to uncover the supernatural-evil. This way even if you aren't christian, catholic or whatnot theres no excuse of "I don't believe in God". In this film science helps prove the devil is real. It gets better and better with ever viewing. It's by far one of my favorite movies.

12-11-2007, 10:34 PM	#3
dwatts HackMaster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crashed Posts: 16,580	The Church.

12-12-2007, 12:11 AM	#4
wago70 Robinson Crusoe on Mars Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Francisco - down by them two ol' sheds Posts: 2,980	Prince Of Darkness

12-12-2007, 02:24 AM	#7
zompirejoe Maniac Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ocean City, Maryland Posts: 815	Extremely tough call. THE CHURCH is great but PRINCE OF DARKNESS wins out.

12-12-2007, 06:55 PM	#9
BoredSeal Stalker Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 258	I love both movies very much, but I prefer John Carpenter´s Donald Pleasence vs Green liquid.

12-12-2007, 08:19 PM	#11
Paff Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,537	Prince of Darkness has never "worked" for me. I've tried, seeing as how some people here often refer to it as "underrated", "masterpiece", "grows on you", etc. I think part of the problem is that I TRY to like it. That never works. I think some night I'll just have it in the player, and suddenly it will all hit me. I hope so, at least. The Church is dumb, but in a Euro-dumb kind of way, thus making it a lot of fun. In other words, style over substance, randomness in the plot, but altogether endearing. Actually, I dig it a lot. Maybe there's a double feature in my near future... __________________ CINEMA PAFF - Your BB-Movie Showcase * * - The extra B is for BYOBB Paff's Laserdiscs

12-13-2007, 01:26 AM	#12
The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell-as Posts: 4,257	Excellent poll! Great choice of films, really! It was tough. But Carpenter has many great films in his CV so I happily went with La Chiesa. Why? Well... Prince hasn't got a GOBLIN/KEITH EMERSON/PHILLIP GLASS soundtrack. __________________ "Only on Horrordvds.com could a well intentioned get well thread turn into an infomercial about the propensity for testicular perspiration". There Is No Freedom, Wake Up.

12-15-2007, 05:46 PM	#13
DVD-fanatic-9 Thinking Cannot Hurt You Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,446	Haven't seen Prince of Darkness yet. The Church was really stupid and the special effects were horrible. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/therachelmaddowshow Just 'cuz, you should be reading it. Don't Buy Puppies Online or at a Pet Store, Do NOT Support This

12-15-2007, 08:25 PM	#15
DeathDealer I Inhale Horror Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Your Mind Posts: 2,118	The Church is brilliant. Prince of Darkness is very good. __________________ Peace Out My Dvd CollectioN Top 6 Directors Of All Time (No Order) - 1. Quentin Tarantino (America) 2. Dario Argento (Italy) 3. Takashi Miike (Japan) 4. Ingmar Bergman (Sweden) 5. Akira Kurosawa (Japan) 6. Martin Scorsese (America)

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