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Old 07-03-2009, 07:56 PM   #1
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Ghostbusters is the best film ever made, sorry Star Wars fans

Ghostbusters is 25 years old and, to celebrate, the whole world should just admit that it's better than Star Wars:
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For the simple truth of the matter is that Ghostbusters is the greatest film ever made — and yet, currently, the world is too scared to admit this. In 2009, if you stood up at a party and spoke factually — Ghostbusters should still be nominated for an Oscar every year, even now — that’s how good it is” — you would probably experience great feelings of squirminess, and embarrassment.

And that is because the generation before us has done an excellent propaganda job on installing Star Wars as the best film ever made, and we — their younger brothers and sisters — never realised how late in the day it was getting. If we’d realised a little sooner that 25 bleeding years had passed, we would have got a hustle on with shooting George Lucas’s overrated, po-faced bundle of space-tat out of the water. As it is, I think we all still thought it was, like, 1992 or something, and there was plenty of time to make the case for Ghostbusters, after we’d got over how good this new Blur album was.

So with the startling jolt of the quarter-century anniversary, the urgency of the task is now revealed. The Great Ghostbusters Campaign must start today.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6585424.ece

I almost put this under "Other movies," but then I realized we're talking ghosts here!

Anyways, while the article makes a pretty terrible argument, I have to agree with its conclusion. There are those that try to shove Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark down your throat as thee greatest films ever made, and I'm sick of it. Ghostbusters is brilliantly inspired; with a much better script, cast, crew, production design and premise.

A big gaff of the article is that comedy is the best format for "revealing exquisite and resonant truths about the human condition." There is far more honesty in the humor of human nature than any form of expression. This is how Greek theater began after all.

Ghostbusters isn't just a bunch of one liners either. It has a great story structure. Our lead characters must prove themselves with pure grit and determination against all odds. No "discovering destiny" crap of Star Wars where Luke is a loser who needs to be built up by others, or a hired gun already on top of his game going through the motions like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. No these characters are self realized. Built up by their own well earned success which is all portrayed in the film. No "Force" or dumb luck, no short cuts. These guys use their heads and fight their way to the top.

So I think we do need to send a message. Ghostbuster fans need not look up to Star Wars fans. No, instead we should look down at their misguided fandom. For as the article ask, which would you rather have? A light saber, or an proton pack?
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:10 PM   #2
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i really love both ghostbusters films and heck the new video game which is technically ghostbusters 3 is awesome the only downfall it is kinda short but yeah i love both movies i have the ghostbusters 1 and 2 dvd pack

i am tempted to get the blu-ray of the first film but i when i found out part 2 wasn't going to be released with part 1 blu-ray and part 2 would come out later down the road kinda pissed me off i am going to try and hold out until the 2nd film hits blu-
also i found a cool fan made trailer for the 3rd film check it out very well done i must say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whS_lTan8Ik
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:15 PM   #3
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Fceurich is right. I got both films, although I just like Part II, I LOVE the original seminal comedy classic that is Ghostbusters ( 1984) from Ivan Reitman and the gang. It's a great comedy/fantasy that, like Rock 'N Roll High School (1979), never falls to brighten me up and to liven up my deepest depression. I mean I TRUELY go back to being a very young tyke, who was salivating and waiting for Ghostbusters II (1989) and the original Tim Burton's Batman (1989) to hit theaters, and really wanting to see Ghostbusters II every-single-day, and the fine animated series The Real Ghostbusters was my tide over. The action figures were fine to play with as well. Dammit how I wish I kept my Ecto-1 (the car) toy! I remember seeing that in The Angry Video Game Nerd's review of the old games and wanting one off eBay right then & there.

I also love the original Star Wars trilogy 1979 - 1983), and I'll applaude George Lucas for re-releasing them in 1997 for us to be able to see them in multiplexes on the big screen, as I did. But in all honesty, Ghostbusters is a franchise I'm MUCH more of a fan of as well. I feel that Ghostbusters II should have been handled better and every two or so years, had the boys in grey who slugged it out with pretty pesky poltergeists stayed in better shape aside from Murray and Hudson, we chould have had a G3 and a G4 and a G5, ect every few summer's. It's a franchise with un-limited possabilites once one thinks about it. GBs had the power & ability to become a GREAT franchise, had Part II just been a little better and a nicer tag-on ending would have been shown and the right script from Aykroyd & Ramis came to pass on over at Columbia.

And the New York setting and all and with new characters they chould have added, it chould have become a GREAT franchise without just a so-so ho-hum sequel. By the way, I agree: The new game I picked up for the 360 is indeed underrated and it's mostly very well done. I almost shed tears, I gotta admit, after years of talks and delay once it was finally in my grubby little hands at a nearby GameStop. The only drawback is some cut scenes that were done in-house and not from the fine Terminal Reality team, has terrible, subpar lip synching, and as fceurich said, it is over all two levels two short. I believe they cut an entire level out of it before it was finished & shipped, the now much talked about 1991 Thanksgiving Day parade of New York City level, before they were done with it. Which is a shame, cause it falls about two full levels breif, even though you get to explore some awesome terroritories and all, and in praise of the game and it's makers, it never once feel's repetatie to me.

The music and voice over is spot on as well, and the game has an awesome sense of nostalgia & excitement of making YOU feel like the new rookie un-named Ghostbuster that you'll get a high from. Also, around my birthday time of last January, I picked up from TimeLife.com the Real Ghostbusters: Complete Series Collection. They had a 15% off offer I had seen on Fangoria.com that I chouldn't resist, and it was well worth it. If you grew up with the series and love the Ghostbusters, it's well worth owning, as it'll become a collectible one day. The firehouse packaging and the extra features/interviews rocks! It's a damn fine, wonderful collection to have. Too bad the re-vamped Extreme Ghostbusters with the new trainee's, wasn't really that good in the late '90s. I remember watching two episodes of that while still in school and thinking to myself "meh, I'd rather watch re-runs of the old school Real Ghostbusters myself".

Anyway, long live the franchise!

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Old 07-03-2009, 10:01 PM   #4
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I've never seen Star Wars, and never want to,.....but I love Ghostbusters, so all good in my book.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:16 PM   #6
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Fceurich is right. I got both films, although I just like Part II, I LOVE the original seminal comedy classic that is Ghostbusters ( 1984) from Ivan Reitman and the gang. It's a great comedy/fantasy that, like Rock 'N Roll High School (1979), never falls to brighten me up and to liven up my deepest depression. I mean I TRUELY go back to being a very young tyke, who was salivating and waiting for Ghostbusters II (1989) and the original Tim Burton's Batman (1989) to hit theaters, and really wanting to see Ghostbusters II every-single-day, and the fine animated series The Real Ghostbusters was my tide over. The action figures were fine to play with as well. Dammit how I wish I kept my Ecto-1 (the car) toy! I remember seeing that in The Angry Video Game Nerd's review of the old games and wanting one off eBay right then & there.

I also love the original Star Wars trilogy 1979 - 1983), and I'll applaude George Lucas for re-releasing them in 1997 for us to be able to see them in multiplexes on the big screen, as I did. But in all honesty, Ghostbusters is a franchise I'm MUCH more of a fan of as well. I feel that Ghostbusters II should have been handled better and every two or so years, had the boys in grey who slugged it out with pretty pesky poltergeists stayed in better shape aside from Murray and Hudson, we chould have had a G3 and a G4 and a G5, ect every few summer's. It's a franchise with un-limited possabilites once one thinks about it. GBs had the power & ability to become a GREAT franchise, had Part II just been a little better and a nicer tag-on ending would have been shown and the right script from Aykroyd & Ramis came to pass on over at Columbia.

And the New York setting and all and with new characters they chould have added, it chould have become a GREAT franchise without just a so-so ho-hum sequel. By the way, I agree: The new game I picked up for the 360 is indeed underrated and it's mostly very well done. I almost shed tears, I gotta admit, after years of talks and delay once it was finally in my grubby little hands at a nearby GameStop. The only drawback is some cut scenes that were done in-house and not from the fine Terminal Reality team, has terrible, subpar lip synching, and as fceurich said, it is over all two levels two short. I believe they cut an entire level out of it before it was finished & shipped, the now much talked about 1991 Thanksgiving Day parade of New York City level, before they were done with it. Which is a shame, cause it falls about two full levels breif, even though you get to explore some awesome terroritories and all, and in praise of the game and it's makers, it never once feel's repetatie to me.

The music and voice over is spot on as well, and the game has an awesome sense of nostalgia & excitement of making YOU feel like the new rookie un-named Ghostbuster that you'll get a high from. Also, around my birthday time of last January, I picked up from TimeLife.com the Real Ghostbusters: Complete Series Collection. They had a 15% off offer I had seen on Fangoria.com that I chouldn't resist, and it was well worth it. If you grew up with the series and love the Ghostbusters, it's well worth owning, as it'll become a collectible one day. The firehouse packaging and the extra features/interviews rocks! It's a damn fine, wonderful collection to have. Too bad the re-vamped Extreme Ghostbusters with the new trainee's, wasn't really that good in the late '90s. I remember watching two episodes of that while still in school and thinking to myself "meh, I'd rather watch re-runs of the old school Real Ghostbusters myself".

Anyway, long live the franchise!
yep there was a parade level and you also got to fight a ghost shark and the scalari brothers from part 2 in a level i sure hope these will be made DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT DLC i know all the store exclusive codes are dlc so they will be on xbox live eventually
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:41 PM   #7
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yep there was a parade level and you also got to fight a ghost shark and the scalari brothers from part 2 in a level i sure hope these will be made DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT DLC i know all the store exclusive codes are dlc so they will be on xbox live eventually
Yup. I got a DLC code from GameStop as well. I'm hoping that eventually they'll surface on X-Box Live, as I'm no doubt sure they will. I just they just ran out of disc space. Even still, the game as you know is well worth playing again, even though I feel the Enemy A.I. and the diffifulty level on some parts is totally whacked like many games, with some things seemingly too easy and over qith quickly, and some thigns just frustraingly hard and taking an addition three or more hours to toy with. But alas, that is part of the fun, ya know?

I'm currently goin' through the Tobin's Spirit Guide (the pause menu) to see how many Ghosts I can identify and find now. I got a lot of the bonus points just playin' through regularly, but now I wanna collect more. It's pretty addictive, and hopefully, they might even make another one.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:24 PM   #8
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I am in the minority that I never thought Ghostbusters was all that great. It was enjoyable but it never did much for me. The original three Star Wars flicks will always be special to me though - they are in that group of films I can watch over and over the rest of my life and still enjoy. The only one of the recent episodes 1-3 that I felt almost the same way about was 3, it fell more in line with the old ones while episode 1 and 2 were really kinda of blah. So I aint hatin on Ghostbusters, I just have never thought it was as great as some have and so this goes vice versa for those of you who feel the same way about Star Wars <:
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:31 PM   #9
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I don't get the point of comparing the two. Outside of being FX heavy, I don't see how they have anything in common - they're not even of the same genre!!!!

I'd rather read a true appreciation of Ghostbusters than an article that has to bash another film (and who aside from Star Wars fans consider it to be the best movie ever made?) just to prop the other film up.

Why doens't the writer ask this question: Will Ghostbusters ever become so popular and well liked that it will be considered cool and hip to bash it for decades on end?
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:40 PM   #10
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Is anyone that actually thinks Star Wars or Ghostbusters are the greatest films ever made even old enough to make such a claim with any authority? I mean, surely they're all like 10 years old.
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Is anyone that actually thinks Star Wars or Ghostbusters are the greatest films ever made even old enough to make such a claim with any authority? I mean, surely they're all like 10 years old.
Meh, well now, while NOT the greatest 35mm films of all time, both are prime examples of the art of overtly mainstream, wonderfully done and coming together as artists, to create somethin' that is gonna last. Mean while, an actual naming of the greatest films in history, rather they're directed by Hitchcock, DeMille or Welles and the like, or a fine mainland European autour, is certianly up for a more personal debate.

But Ghostbusters as a film is actually quie underrated. One of the best one-liner and best cast films of the last 30 years, reguardless of what anyone says. To each they're own.
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE Ghostbusters. I just watched it recently after playing through the new game and have an even higher appreciation for it now than I did when I was a lad. However... I LOVE the original Star Wars trilogy too. I really can't understand why people take such a hard stance against the Star Wars flicks, claiming they will "never see it" etc.... If you're not a Sci-fi fan, I can understand. But if you're just taking this stance to say you're taking a stance and to give Star Wars fans a hard time, you're cheating yourself out of some amazing films.

Still... I have to say I prefer Ghostbusters over Star Wars lol. It's a masterpiece.
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Is anyone that actually thinks Star Wars or Ghostbusters are the greatest films ever made even old enough to make such a claim with any authority? I mean, surely they're all like 10 years old.
I dont believe any of them are the best ever but still great movies that have held up over the years. My comments were more in the comparison of the two but not in comparison to any other movies.
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