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Old 10-06-2009, 04:52 PM   #46
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You sure are taking Lady Gaga criticism seriously. Are you related?
No- I have a very tiny nose.

And actually, I'm not taking the criticism of her as a performer seriously. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, especially when it comes to music. No 2 people can be expected to share even remotely similar tastes. I'm just sick and tired of the brainless, superficial criticisms of every woman in music these days. She doesn't even have to open her mouth and people would automatically call her a slut and a man! That's just downright ignorant and hateful. And it's not even creative, as far as insults go. Still- people don't really know anything about her. She hasn't even had any time to do anything bad. Get in fights, get a DUI, say something political, have a sex-tape stolen, or be the escort of a man arrested because someone was shot at the club they were at.

And if the problem is she's too visible... just once- why doesn't someone blame the people shoving pop stars in our faces instead of the pop stars themselves? And the probably soon-to-be-famous "porn" comment pages ago, was stupid. It has nothing to do with Lady Gaga. Even if someone said that about Michelle Malkin, I'd say it wasn't a funny joke. (Shy of the "record contract" detail)



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Actually, your not as alone as you think, mi amigo. I actually HATE all forms of Metal as a music genre, myself, and was just never too into anything hard.
Oh, I like hard music (3 of my favorite groups are L7, Smashing Pumpkins, and Lords of Acid). Just not metal. Metal is, to me, the rock music equivalent of food gone bad. Kiss makes me want to puke. Twisted Sister are noise with no soul. "Pour Some Sugar on Me" is just skanky (as are most of the men in any metal band, take your pick) and serves better as an anthem for Diabetes. Bon Jovi are tuneless (they must all be partially deaf). And those are just the mainstream bands. I almost yearn for that music when the alternative is something like Cannibal Corpse. Or any number of those trashy underground metal bands, all from very silly sub-sub-genre names. That shit just gives me a headache. It's absolutely not music, it's just noise.

However... out of the garden of weeds that is metal (and pre-1990's industrial)... I think Metallica and Alice in Chains are 2 bands worth giving a reprieve to. Overall.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:54 PM   #47
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I find it a little strange people havnt heard of her too. I mean, I don't listen to the radio or watch TV either, but I surf the net. She's been all over youtube, msn, yahoo, the like. -Shrugs- Who knows.
Anyway, I dont love her, or hate her. Those options are too extreme. I think she's good, I didnt care for her at first, but then listened to some of her acoustic performances of her songs on youtube and was really impressed, she is actually a talented singer and musician, unlike 80% of the pop icons out there now, so props for that.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:53 PM   #48
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I just thought of another place you might hear some Lady Gaga music.

Strip Clubs.


Also , I'm not trying to offend , trust me. How do I put this? But Britney, Lady Gaga, etc... have a sizable gay following (besides the obvious young girl teens)

So that may be part of the reluctance to liking these types of pop stars.

Its just my humble theory. Hope not to offend. I'm not gay, but I enjoy this type of music from time to time. In fact I'm a big fan of Kylie Minogue , and we all know she a has a large following in the gay community. Doesn't bother me, I like her music, I could care less if someone was judgmental about this info or the fact that young teens like her music.

And for all you that are little behind in the current scene.

Treat yourself, take a look at Shakira's new video She Wolf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aEW_Z5Va5s



Get out more people!

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Old 10-06-2009, 06:04 PM   #49
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Also , I'm not trying to offend , trust me. How do I put this? But Britney, Lady Gaga, etc... have a sizable gay following (besides the obvious young girl teens).
How is that offensive? lol
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:08 PM   #50
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How is that offensive? lol
It not , but when you write something vs speaking one on one, sometimes the tone can be taken different ways.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:10 PM   #51
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After her (fake) cat fight with Madonna, I sure do like her a lot more
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:18 PM   #52
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Sorry can't say I've heard of her. The name is catchy.

..oh wait I just looked her up. My GF listens to that garbage all the time. I can't stand that Pop processed crap.

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Old 10-06-2009, 06:40 PM   #53
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I've no idea who she is, but even if I did I ceased being that passionate about music a long time ago. In high school and college I used to get really angry with bad pop music but that all changed around the time the Spice Girls came on the scene. None of that matters to me anymore.
Pretty much in the same boat. Never heard of the wench before, and don't see much need to after checking her out.

Its really sad how much (or, as time passes and I get more mired in the "it's all sounding like shit, so I don't give a shit" rut, how *little*) I hear now that sounds like a tired retread of the same pop/rock/soul I was listening to 10, 20, even 30 years ago. Not that I was heavy into grunge, but what the fuck has happened since in terms of creativity? Seems like grunge was the last attempt to do *anything* new, and now no one can figure out how to make music unless it involves blatently ripping off the sound of top 40 talent from decades past (or remixing it on a hip-hop album). And then patting themselves on the back for their "creativity" (if the mouth breathers declaring Kanye West a "musical genius" aren't Satan's demonic horde heralding the coming Apocalypse I don't know what the hell could be).

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I think Metallica and Alice in Chains are 2 bands worth giving a reprieve to.
Alice in Chains is one of the few metal (although more grunge, IMO) groups I have CDs of. There was some serious depth in Staley's and Cantrell's lyrics/vocals, and the music pushed beyond mindless head banging while defiantly standing firm in its foundations. Same with vintage Ozzy/Sabbath, and a few nods to Judas Priest, pretty much begins and ends my foray that direction. Most of the rest is just repetitive crap.

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I find it a little strange people havnt heard of her too. I mean, I don't listen to the radio or watch TV either, but I surf the net. She's been all over youtube, msn, yahoo, the like.
You pretty much summed up the how. Youtube is like having premium package cable, satellite dish, and international internet feed TV - thousands of choices yet almost every damn channel is the same half arsed reality TV show. When I surf the net, I try to look for something interesting, and that rarely means hitting the usual haunts that today's excuses for pop culture icons get their internet airtime.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:43 PM   #54
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I've heard her music but none of it really sticks with me. I love dance pop, but I'm underwhelmed by her music.
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:07 PM   #55
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Lady Gaga's grandmother lives in a small town near me-- Glendale, WV. There was an article in the local newspaper with the grandmother. Naturally Granny is proud of her little Gaga.

When I first got a good look at Gaga I thought I was 13 again and seeing Dale Bozzio from Missing Persons on MTV. At least you could listen to their music. They still get on the radio even today. I'm not too sure about Gaga's fame lasting 25 years later.
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #56
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You pretty much summed up the how. Youtube is like having premium package cable, satellite dish, and international internet feed TV - thousands of choices yet almost every damn channel is the same half arsed reality TV show. When I surf the net, I try to look for something interesting, and that rarely means hitting the usual haunts that today's excuses for pop culture icons get their internet airtime.
What are some of these interesting untapped sites you go to. Please share your finds.

P.S. - I could name about 100 pop culture icons that have zero internet influence.

And wasn't Alice in Chains just part of the alternative / grunge movement. They didn't invent it, right? So they are just repeating what others before started. So if that's ok, then bands / singers now sounding like of old is ok too imo. ... Neil Young ... cough...

Imagine if Motown just was one group/singer. Pretty boring huh. I'm glad that there are singers out there influenced by yesteryear sounds. Not to long ago we had Wolfmother bringing back that Black Sabbath type sound.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:07 PM   #57
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I like Gaga..for someone so famous,she seems very humble,and quick to shout out to her fans,never forgetting that it is they who brought her to the success level she currently enjoys.

Her get-ups (seemingly-ridiculous as they may be) are one-of-a-kind,(and I don't care what people say about that Irish performer no one heard of til now,there's only so may ways to create the effect of a planet orbiting your head,if that's the look you're going for).

She rolls with the inevitable jealous,vicious punches (comments suggesting hermaphroditism,transexuality,and overall ugliness,which would send most into the corner crying,or shaving their heads bald-Britney Spears,I'm talkin' to you!)...and her music is fun,rarely deeper than a dime,and catchy as all hell.

Like this type of music or not (I generally don't,you won't find Fergie,Christina Aguilera,or any of the usual pop tarts in my player)songs like "Boys,Boys Boys",
"Love Game" and "Money Honey" stick in your head,and get you moving.

My tastes range from classic David Bowie and The Cars,to The Crystal Method and REO Speedwagon,to The Pet Shop Boys,all the way to the occasional Rihana song,(LOVE Disturbia and its Grace Jones in Vamp vibe).

Talent is talent.When live,Gaga hits keys and sustains notes longer than most any female performer without annoying the absolute shit out of me before its over.When I decided to grab her CD after watching her perform,I was dismayed to find the disc had a processed,restrained feel so unlike her true stage persona. Her big hat/tea cup eccentricity off-stage only adds to the appeal,as far as I'm concerned. You have to have some serious confidence under your belt to sport some of those outfits.

It doesn't hurt that she has a great,curvaceous figure,better than most ladies in the business,and she can shake it.(In best Maddy from F13th:New Blood voice:"Hermaphrodite my ass!")
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:35 PM   #58
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No- I have a very tiny nose.

And actually, I'm not taking the criticism of her as a performer seriously. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, especially when it comes to music. No 2 people can be expected to share even remotely similar tastes. I'm just sick and tired of the brainless, superficial criticisms of every woman in music these days. She doesn't even have to open her mouth and people would automatically call her a slut and a man! That's just downright ignorant and hateful. And it's not even creative, as far as insults go. Still- people don't really know anything about her. She hasn't even had any time to do anything bad. Get in fights, get a DUI, say something political, have a sex-tape stolen, or be the escort of a man arrested because someone was shot at the club they were at.

And if the problem is she's too visible... just once- why doesn't someone blame the people shoving pop stars in our faces instead of the pop stars themselves? And the probably soon-to-be-famous "porn" comment pages ago, was stupid. It has nothing to do with Lady Gaga. Even if someone said that about Michelle Malkin, I'd say it wasn't a funny joke. (Shy of the "record contract" detail)




Oh, I like hard music (3 of my favorite groups are L7, Smashing Pumpkins, and Lords of Acid). Just not metal. Metal is, to me, the rock music equivalent of food gone bad. Kiss makes me want to puke. Twisted Sister are noise with no soul. "Pour Some Sugar on Me" is just skanky (as are most of the men in any metal band, take your pick) and serves better as an anthem for Diabetes. Bon Jovi are tuneless (they must all be partially deaf). And those are just the mainstream bands. I almost yearn for that music when the alternative is something like Cannibal Corpse. Or any number of those trashy underground metal bands, all from very silly sub-sub-genre names. That shit just gives me a headache. It's absolutely not music, it's just noise.

However... out of the garden of weeds that is metal (and pre-1990's industrial)... I think Metallica and Alice in Chains are 2 bands worth giving a reprieve to. Overall.
Metallica has sucked ass since 1989. That bald retard, Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins as hard music?? Please man you should go on tour with Henny Youngman and Rodney Dangerfield as a comedian.
As for any 'derogatory' comments about Lady Gaga: when you sing, if you can call it that, about riding a disco stick and perform with your ass hanging out you open yourself up for any criticism that comes your way real or satirical. There's plenty of talented females out there-Sarah Mclachlan, Sarah Brightman, Nelly Furtado, Feist and they succeed on talent, not looking like outcasts from the latest Hustler video. Lady Gaga=talentless crap. Don't even try to turn this into some bullshit, pseudo-feminist debate-shit is shit whether perpetrated by men or women.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:59 PM   #59
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I'll concede she's cute. But the music is dull.

As someone else said here, I'd much rather listen to Moloko/Roisin Murphy. For pop, it is far more interesting, innovative, and original.
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And wasn't Alice in Chains just part of the alternative / grunge movement.
Where the fuck did I say they invented grunge? Someone stated they despise metal but made an exception for AiC, and I concurred.

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So they are just repeating what others before started.
Well, since you went there, its because they *didn't* mire themselves in the same rute others started that I made the exception. Thought I stated that pretty clear. I can't say the same thing about just about anything I've heard on the music scene today, today's definition of going outside the box means perfoming rip offs in multiple genres, rather than trying anything different in one. I've little doubt that when the next generation writes the history of popular music, this decade will be regarded as a derivitive wasteland.

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I'm glad that there are singers out there influenced by yesteryear sounds.
As much as I like the horror genre, when it comes to music I'm not keen on tossing the contents of my wallet at people essentially practicing necrophilia. When telling the difference between a classics and modern pop station when turning on the radio (broadcast or sattelite) nowadays almost feels like you have to check the artists credits, something is wrong. There's "influenced", and then there's "wholesale copied sheet music from and slapped new lyrics down". Sometimes I wonder if even the liner notes in the CDs match. If I get the itch for yesteryear sounds, I'll probably go back to the source instead of a lukewarm retread performed with the creative inspiration of a pack of rhesus monkeys trying to jam to VH1.
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