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Old 11-15-2010, 06:39 PM   #706
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Shout Factory has asked for the info not to spread. This is the company that has been kind enough to release (or re-release) gems like this on DVD. Do you really want to piss them off?

No, you don't.
Some of you are lucky enough to have this cool bit of knowledge. Kudos to you. It would be nice if you (and others) wouldn't get so touchy when people gently pry for a little of what you know. This is a pretty interesting story so try to be more patient and understanding.

Shout Factory didn't release these films because they like us. They are a company that plans on making money. Whether we piss them off has no bearing on future releases. Most of us paid money for our copy of SPM so we aren't indebted to Shout either. That said, I respect your decision to keep quite and would do the same. But I'd love to hear what the story is and desperately hope someone spills the beans.

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Old 11-16-2010, 03:13 AM   #707
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I understand why those keeping their mouths shut have done so. i've been asked to sit on things before too. But I don't think anyone's been out of line in trying to get to the bottom of the story. I mean look at all the venom directed at code red on these boards. we haven't seen anything even remotely close to that. It's just people who know that a secrets being kept, and they want in on it. Until people start calling the men and women behind Shout! Factory nasty names, I think people are within the bounds of decent conduct.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:04 AM   #708
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I understand why those keeping their mouths shut have done so. i've been asked to sit on things before too. But I don't think anyone's been out of line in trying to get to the bottom of the story. I mean look at all the venom directed at code red on these boards. we haven't seen anything even remotely close to that. It's just people who know that a secrets being kept, and they want in on it. Until people start calling the men and women behind Shout! Factory nasty names, I think people are within the bounds of decent conduct.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:52 AM   #709
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Hopefully this will clear up some air on the commentary issue. While it's still vague as the person that told me (not a member here) asked me not to air it out, and it's not my place anyway, I think this gives some more info other than there were "issues and circumstances beyond out control", which is all Shout! is willing to say.

The story behind the commentaries is basically just the same old Hollywood bullshit you've heard about on film sets. Old grudges and bad blood are the main reasons. Even if that hurdle had been overcome, this would have been ultimately recalled/edited as somehow a release wasn't signed by one of the people that has been edited out, so the original batch of discs probably shouldn't have even been pressed. I'm guessing that little legal snafu slipped between the cracks and was realized a bit too late after the first batch of discs had gone into production.

And that's really all I fell okay saying without being given the okay. I don't think this paints anyone involved in a bad light, but it gives some idea as to why it had to be done.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:21 PM   #710
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I understand why those keeping their mouths shut have done so. i've been asked to sit on things before too.
As I also understand. It happens often that I got some inside also because of my good relations with some dvd label owner, but I never reveal anything unless I got the ok to do so. It's just a question of credibility and trust, those relations are important and loosing a friend because you want to wrote an exclusivity on your blog (or a forum in this case) doesn't worth it.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:45 PM   #711
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What's the point of talking about it if no one's gonna spill the beans, With every extra post on the topic dangling the carrott longer. Let's just keep on topic in relation to SF's releases, Seems the sensible thing to do or YOU COULD JUST ******' TELL US
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:46 PM   #712
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What's the point of talking about it if no one's gonna spill the beans, With every extra post on the topic dangling the carrott longer. Let's just keep on topic in relation to SF's releases, Seems the sensible thing to do or YOU COULD JUST ******' TELL US
so much for subtlety
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:01 PM   #713
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What I find most disappointing about this is that no one outside this forum is talking about it. I’ve been regularly googling this issue since it arose and have found less than a handful of mentions. SPM is “the slasher” from my youth and looking at forums over the past couple of years its clearly recognized by most fans of the genre. So why is it that only a dozen people have mentioned that the commentaries are chopped to pieces? I know one explanation might be that very few people actually listen to commentaries. But I’m starting to get the feeling that SPM might not be as popular as I always believed and maybe sales are far from impressive. bummer
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:43 PM   #714
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What I find most disappointing about this is that no one outside this forum is talking about it. I?ve been regularly googling this issue since it arose and have found less than a handful of mentions. SPM is ?the slasher? from my youth and looking at forums over the past couple of years its clearly recognized by most fans of the genre. So why is it that only a dozen people have mentioned that the commentaries are chopped to pieces? I know one explanation might be that very few people actually listen to commentaries. But I?m starting to get the feeling that SPM might not be as popular as I always believed and maybe sales are far from impressive. bummer
Like you said, maybe few people actually listen to commentaries.

Also, I think this title is still very obscure to many people.
I also grew up in the era of slasher and have seen a bunch but don?t forget that when many people hear about slashers only the mainstream ones are mentioned.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:15 PM   #715
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All I can even begin to guess at is that with the budget being so low, and the popularity of the title upon its video release, it's probably a pay dispute. That helps me sleep better at night thinking it has to do with money so I can lay it to rest.

I bought a 2nd copy through Shout! Factory's website to get the uncut commentary, having never even seen the sequel. That being said, SPM part Deux was so horrible, I seriously doubt I will ever even listen to the commentary. The movie made me want to gouge my eyes out with a hot poker. I'd rather have hooks stuck through my manboobs and hung from jungle trees by natives than sit through it again.

I think most people could agree, the movie hits a low point in one particular scene involving music... I don't want to give it away, but I was ready to take the disc out and break it.
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That being said, SPM part Deux was so horrible, I seriously doubt I will ever even listen to the commentary. The movie made me want to gouge my eyes out with a hot poker. I'd rather have hooks stuck through my manboobs and hung from jungle trees by natives than sit through it again.

I think most people could agree, the movie hits a low point in one particular scene involving music... I don't want to give it away, but I was ready to take the disc out and break it.
Nope, couldn't disagree more. You need a sense of humor, my man. SPM2 >>> SPM1 in every way
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:54 AM   #717
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All I can even begin to guess at is that with the budget being so low, and the popularity of the title upon its video release, it's probably a pay dispute. That helps me sleep better at night thinking it has to do with money so I can lay it to rest.

I bought a 2nd copy through Shout! Factory's website to get the uncut commentary, having never even seen the sequel. That being said, SPM part Deux was so horrible, I seriously doubt I will ever even listen to the commentary. The movie made me want to gouge my eyes out with a hot poker. I'd rather have hooks stuck through my manboobs and hung from jungle trees by natives than sit through it again.

I think most people could agree, the movie hits a low point in one particular scene involving music... I don't want to give it away, but I was ready to take the disc out and break it.
Yeah SPM 2 isn't a "good" movie, yet I really like it. Cheesy as hell the way I like 'em and I happen to be quite a Juliette Cummins fan!
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:13 AM   #718
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Yeah SPM 2 isn't a "good" movie, yet I really like it. Cheesy as hell the way I like 'em and I happen to be quite a Juliette Cummins fan!
Definitely. Yeah it's a goofy movie, but it's been one of my favorites since first seeing it in the late-80's. The old VHS of mine used to get a lot of repeat viewings.

I love the atmosphere of the film, the 80's soundtrack, the characters, the driller killer's one-liners, etc..
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:32 AM   #719
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Definitely. Yeah it's a goofy movie, but it's been one of my favorites since first seeing it in the late-80's. The old VHS of mine used to get a lot of repeat viewings.

I love the atmosphere of the film, the 80's soundtrack, the characters, the driller killer's one-liners, etc..
Agreed 100%. Love the killer's one liners and 50's rockabilly look. I guess being a child of the 80's helps me appreciate it more.
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