Any news on Halloween 2 replacement disc??

[JGrendel]

Still not replacing mine

[Katatonia]

Originally Posted by JGrendel

Still not replacing mine

I'm not bothering with it either. It doesn't even seem like messing with the trouble of getting a replacement for just a credit change.

[X-human]

Originally Posted by Agentsusp

They used an old print from what looks like the mid 80s that didn't have Moustapha Akaad's production credit on it for whatever reason (even though he is credited on the packaging), people freaked out and claimed some weird conspiracy theory and made a stink out of nothing so they conceded and made a replacement disc.

I suspect they were either legally obligated to correct it or they didn't want to piss off the Akaads so they'd take their ball back and go home.

The reality is that if it was pretty much anyone else's name fucked up on the credits Universal wouldn't have given a rat's ass. They certainly wouldn't spend money to fix it. Goofed credits are often left untouched. And 99.99% of the fans don't give a shit if Akaad's name is there or not. So it's pretty clear why this got "corrected."

The way I look at it, this is the same family who told Don May Jr. to fuck off for not letting them get away with throwing out the existing negatives for Halloween. I wouldn't miss a thing if their names were wiped off every print for the entire Halloween franchise. Seems like that name credit is all they give a shit about.

Good god, the color timing is all fucked up on the original Halloween's Blu-ray. You don't see the Akaads demand Anchor Bay fix what's wrong with every frame of that landmark film. But their name is missing from a lesser sequel and suddenly we have to boycott it and demand replacements? Fuck that shit.

[chrismac87]

Originally Posted by X-human

The reality is that if it was pretty much anyone else's name fucked up on the credits Universal wouldn't have given a rat's ass. They certainly wouldn't spend money to fix it. Goofed credits are often left untouched. And 99.99% of the fans don't give a shit if Akaad's name is there or not. So it's pretty clear why this got "corrected."

99.99% didn't give a shit? I'd say they certainly did since I saw more people complaining about it when it happened, then those that weren't.

What I find so ironic about this whole situation is there are folks out there who did complain, and yes, they are on this board and replying to this thread with the response of not wanting to bother sending their disc in to be replaced for fear of losing a special feature or really just not wanting to be bothered at all. I'm not naming names, but y'all know who you are.

It's not just here though, so I'm not like singling this board out, it's all over. Seemed like a ton of people wanted it fixed, it got fixed, but now they have to do some work and wait a bit to get a fixed disc and they can't be bothered. Tad ironic if ya ask me.

Personally, never had much of an issue with the change myself - didn't see the need to boycott the release or put the head of Universal on a pike for all to see - it was obviously not something they did intentionally, I can't see them being malicious about it, and of course when folks started throwing racism and what not into the mix, it had to be fixed. It sucks too because Universal is one of the better companies for the horror genre to be a part of and even with a little flub like this one, they shouldn't have been given all the crap they were considering. But who am I to judge?

[Katatonia]

Originally Posted by chrismac87

What I find so ironic about this whole situation is there are folks out there who did complain, and yes, they are on this board and replying to this thread with the response of not wanting to bother sending their disc in to be replaced for fear of losing a special feature or really just not wanting to be bothered at all. I'm not naming names, but y'all know who you are.

It's not just here though, so I'm not like singling this board out, it's all over. Seemed like a ton of people wanted it fixed, it got fixed, but now they have to do some work and wait a bit to get a fixed disc and they can't be bothered. Tad ironic if ya ask me.

It's not just that some of us don't want to bother with the replacement, some of us honestly really don't care one way or the other about a single credit which does appear on the back cover anyway. I really never cared if Universal fixed it to begin with, and I certainly wasn't bitching about it beforehand.

[chrismac87]

Originally Posted by Katatonia

It's not just that some of us don't want to bother with the replacement, some of us honestly really don't care one way or the other about a single credit which does appear on the back cover anyway. I really never cared if Universal fixed it to begin with, and I certainly wasn't bitching about it beforehand.

Right and I fall into that category. I didn't give a shit either, the movie looked and sounded great, nothing was missing or altered to the point where it would deter from my enjoyment so I was happy.

Again that comment isn't aimed at anyone specifically, this isn't a witch hunt, and it's probably more so now that whoever is shrugging their shoulders now about the replacement disc, that was all up in arms before, probably realized it wasn't the mountain that the mole hill was. Ya dig?

[Katatonia]

Originally Posted by chrismac87

Ya dig?

I dug.

[X-human]

Originally Posted by chrismac87

It's not just here though, so I'm not like singling this board out, it's all over. Seemed like a ton of people wanted it fixed, it got fixed, but now they have to do some work and wait a bit to get a fixed disc and they can't be bothered. Tad ironic if ya ask me.

There's a difference between people being good natured and wanting to see things done right versus outrage at crimes against humanity. In general people would like to see name credits correct for any member of the cast/crew. The Akaads raised the most stink. If they hadn't then nobody really care. It's also easy to hate on a company like Universal (not without good reason). I'm not going to touch the race card on this one, but I'm sure it just boiled down to negligence on Universal's part.

Compare this to the Back to the Future debacle. Universal was negligent, slow to resolve some issues and ignored the rest. Then they went and made similar mistakes with BTTF on Blu-ray that they still haven't fixed! Yet they corrected the credits on b-movie faster than you can file legal proceeding.

Universal is one of the better companies for the horror genre to be a part of and even with a little flub like this one, they shouldn't have been given all the crap they were considering. But who am I to judge?

While Universal has a better catalog than most companies they only do right by fans when they have a Homer Simpson moment (look it up, it's in the dictionary). Universal shouldn't have been given crap on this when there's so much fucked up shit they do need to replace like the Spartacus Blu-ray for example. But let's not focus solely on Universal. What about the Halloween franchise in general? How about the color timing on the original (already mentioned) or the Akaad's own refusal to let fan see any of the unused footage (which Carpenter approves of doing). How about a Producer's Cut release? I'm sure if you pushed any of these concerns to the Akaads you'd either be ignored or berated. Yet they expect us to mob Universal with pitchforks and torches because they names slipped between the cracks on one single release after being right for decades.

Now that this has been fixed for them, very quickly might I add, how about we ask the Akaads for them to fix some REAL problems with the franchise? And don't give me shit about fans should be happy with what we got. We paid for what we got, just like any other fan base. The Akaads asked us to boycott on their behalf. Now it's time they did something for our behalf besides taking our money. Fix what they should have fixed long before their names were blinked from the world for a measly few seconds.

[ronnie21]

I just feel that the name change may be fixed. but something else will be screwed up..

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

Great news! The replacements disc is exactly the same with the exception of the correct credit!:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mov...2011-a-91.html

So now we can put this to rest; the replacements does include Terror In The Aisles (as I thought it would)!

There's nothing there stating Terror has the same runtime.
I doubt it's cut, but without runtimes or a sharp-eyed review, it could still be trimmed.

I forgot about all that shit with the first film's negatives and all the lost footage. For that I say fuck the Akkads. Yeah it technically is their film, but to deny film history these important finds is prue assholism. I now feel not bad one bit for not caring about this credit change. I think I said in the original thread I would be pissed if it was my family, hope that wasn't construed as bitching about it. It wasn't meant to be.

[evildeadfan123]

This is the first that I heard about this. Interesting. Myself, I'm just going to keep my present copy and not send it off to be replaced. Man, I guess some people don't have lives at all.

[JGrendel]

Originally Posted by X-human

There's a difference between people being good natured and wanting to see things done right versus outrage at crimes against humanity. In general people would like to see name credits correct for any member of the cast/crew. The Akaads raised the most stink. If they hadn't then nobody really care. It's also easy to hate on a company like Universal (not without good reason). I'm not going to touch the race card on this one, but I'm sure it just boiled down to negligence on Universal's part.

Compare this to the Back to the Future debacle. Universal was negligent, slow to resolve some issues and ignored the rest. Then they went and made similar mistakes with BTTF on Blu-ray that they still haven't fixed! Yet they corrected the credits on b-movie faster than you can file legal proceeding.





While Universal has a better catalog than most companies they only do right by fans when they have a Homer Simpson moment (look it up, it's in the dictionary). Universal shouldn't have been given crap on this when there's so much fucked up shit they do need to replace like the Spartacus Blu-ray for example. But let's not focus solely on Universal. What about the Halloween franchise in general? How about the color timing on the original (already mentioned) or the Akaad's own refusal to let fan see any of the unused footage (which Carpenter approves of doing). How about a Producer's Cut release? I'm sure if you pushed any of these concerns to the Akaads you'd either be ignored or berated. Yet they expect us to mob Universal with pitchforks and torches because they names slipped between the cracks on one single release after being right for decades.

Now that this has been fixed for them, very quickly might I add, how about we ask the Akaads for them to fix some REAL problems with the franchise? And don't give me shit about fans should be happy with what we got. We paid for what we got, just like any other fan base. The Akaads asked us to boycott on their behalf. Now it's time they did something for our behalf besides taking our money. Fix what they should have fixed long before their names were blinked from the world for a measly few seconds.

Couldn't have said it better myself X

[chrismac87]

Originally Posted by X-human

What about the Halloween franchise in general? How about the color timing on the original (already mentioned) or the Akaad's own refusal to let fan see any of the unused footage (which Carpenter approves of doing). How about a Producer's Cut release? I'm sure if you pushed any of these concerns to the Akaads you'd either be ignored or berated. Yet they expect us to mob Universal with pitchforks and torches because they names slipped between the cracks on one single release after being right for decades.

Now that this has been fixed for them, very quickly might I add, how about we ask the Akaads for them to fix some REAL problems with the franchise? And don't give me shit about fans should be happy with what we got. We paid for what we got, just like any other fan base. The Akaads asked us to boycott on their behalf. Now it's time they did something for our behalf besides taking our money. Fix what they should have fixed long before their names were blinked from the world for a measly few seconds.

This is SO beyond true. I remember when Malek was damning Universal for destroying the "integrity" of the franchise, saying it was blatant disrespect on his family's part etc. Well, hate to break it to ya sonny - oh yes, I went there - I don't think the series kept much "integrity" when you signed the paper to license a PORN spoof of the film now did it?

JUST sayin'.

[Demoni]

I found it really amusing the fact that, since the beginning, the majority of the people are talking about something regarding "Terror In The Aisles" without any confirmation.

Talking about Internet rumors...

[ronnie21]

now iam tempted to replace it.. how do you go about doing that anyway? do you have to send the disc itself. or the disc and case??