Any Spaghetti Westerns to avoid?

Crystal Plumage · 06-29-2005, 05:17 PM

I'm really interested in Spaghetti Westerns lately.But there are so many available.
Especially in R2 there are really a lot.So my question is.Which are the worst.
And I mean: (for the film) direction,story/plot or acting.
And for the dvd:no English audio option or bad transfer (cropped/P&S) etc...
I basically know which are the must haves (Valerii,Corbucci,Castellari,Leone,Dallamano etc.) but which ones I can skip??
Thanks alot!

BloodMan · 06-29-2005, 09:07 PM

Kill and Pray... really boring... when whats his face comes into... pasolini I think, he just talks and talks for the longest time and he is quite boring. I didn't like it anyway.
There is a PAL release of Tepepa I think but it has english dubbing, but during the film, the english drops out and goes to Italian, (a total of about 15 minutes of dialogue is like this throughout the flick)this was because it was a recut release and the scenes that were originally left out were put back in. I've also heard there are no english subtitles., but it is widescreen.
A PAL release of The Big Gundown is available too, but alas, no english subtitles and no english audio track. Widescreen though.
There are some nice releases from Japan of some great Spaghetti Westerns... Navajo Joe, The Mercenary, Sabata series... but they cost about 50 bucks US each, which is crazy. Thats the only problem with them, they all have an english audio track and are widescreen.

allmessedup · 06-29-2005, 09:15 PM

I haven't seen them myself, but a lot of people seem to dislike all the various DJANGO sequels--the first film and the last one are the only good ones, and also the only ones to star Franco Nero. I think a lot of the sequels were other films that were retitled to capitalize on the success of DJANGO.

Crystal Plumage · 07-03-2005, 06:12 PM

I need more input!!

Really there are just too many crappy releases out there,I need to know which.
Perhaps there's a link for reviews or other things.I Googled but all I find is the common stuff (Leone mostly)
Or is it because most of you don't buy R2?In that case I should try another forum....
Thanks in advance!!

Jimbo · 07-03-2005, 09:17 PM

Can you list what you have? That will help me at least give you some suggestions as to what is good.

DeathDealer · 07-03-2005, 09:40 PM

I have:

Django
Texas Adios
Good Bad Ugly
Once Upon An Time In The West
Keoma
Four and the Apocolyse
Bullet For The General
Navajo Joe
Compernos
Death Rides A Horse
The Great Silence

And, they are all GREAT.

Crystal Plumage · 07-03-2005, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Can you list what you have? That will help me at least give you some suggestions as to what is good.

I only have a few at the moment:

The Good the Bad and the Ugly (original)
Once Upon A Time in the West
Run..Man..Run!
A Man Called Blade
Django
Kill..If You Live Shoot!
My Name Is Nobody

And I'm planning on buying these very soon:

Fistful Of Dollars SE
Fistful Of Dynamite SE
For A Few Dollars More SE
Good,Bad & Ugly SE
Any Gun Can Play
A Bullet For Sandoval
"Once Upon A Time In Italy" including:

Bullet For The General
Texas Adios
Four of the Apocalypse
Compañeros
Keoma

I'm not sure about Corbucci's The Great Silence,how is the DVD quality?

BloodMan · 07-03-2005, 10:06 PM

It looks good, Fantoma did a good job for that old film. (widescreen is like 1.66:1 I think) That is probably one of the best westerns I have ever seen actually. Different too...

Crystal Plumage · 07-03-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodMan

It looks good, Fantoma did a good job for that old film. (widescreen is like 1.66:1 I think) That is probably one of the best westerns I have ever seen actually. Different too...

Aparantly there is a newer French disc:
http://western.devildead.com/indexfi...n=2&FilmID=597
It looks better than the Fantoma disc (according to the comparison) but doesn't have an English audio option.

Crystal Plumage · 07-03-2005, 10:29 PM

I did some more searching and found out that these will get an MGM release in august:
Adios Sabata (1971)
Death Rides A Horse (1968)
Return of Sabata (1971)
Sabata (1970)

All in their correct aspect ratios.

Also Paramount Germany will release A Genius,Two Friends and A Dupe in a 2DVD set.
English and German audio.
This was produced by Sergio Leone so I guess it's good?Directed by Damiani (Bullet For The General)

Oh man...can't see the woods for the trees anymore

Criswell · 07-03-2005, 11:09 PM

Trinity is still my name............lame silly slapstick.

DeathDealer · 07-03-2005, 11:37 PM

Crustal Plumage, how do you think I got those some of those westerns?

I bought the once upon time in italy collection!!!!!

DeathDealer · 07-03-2005, 11:38 PM

Do you think there will be any features on the death rides a horse dvd?

BloodMan · 07-04-2005, 04:30 AM

It would be nice if there were... I hope so. I already have the CD soundtrack, but it would be a nice addition anyway if they released it with the soundtrack etc... Such a good soundtrack. Good movie too.

Erick H. · 07-04-2005, 07:54 AM

Just curious,anybody out there have FIVE MAN ARMY on dvd(not actually directed by an Italian,but scripted by Dario Argento) ? I'd heard of a recent dvd release and was wondering about the quality.

06-29-2005, 09:07 PM	#2
BloodMan Kill Time B4 It Kills You Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,432	Kill and Pray... really boring... when whats his face comes into... pasolini I think, he just talks and talks for the longest time and he is quite boring. I didn't like it anyway. There is a PAL release of Tepepa I think but it has english dubbing, but during the film, the english drops out and goes to Italian, (a total of about 15 minutes of dialogue is like this throughout the flick)this was because it was a recut release and the scenes that were originally left out were put back in. I've also heard there are no english subtitles., but it is widescreen. A PAL release of The Big Gundown is available too, but alas, no english subtitles and no english audio track. Widescreen though. There are some nice releases from Japan of some great Spaghetti Westerns... Navajo Joe, The Mercenary, Sabata series... but they cost about 50 bucks US each, which is crazy. Thats the only problem with them, they all have an english audio track and are widescreen. __________________ We Are Never Very Far From Those We Hate, For This Very Reason, We Shall Never Be Truly Close To Those We Love If I Don't Have The Right To Torture You, Why Then Do You Have The Right To Torture Me By Taking Away The Pleasure That I Could Get From Torturing You? Remember, one cannot make footprints in the sands of time by sitting on their butt, and who wants to leave butt prints in the sands of time?

07-03-2005, 09:40 PM	#6
DeathDealer I Inhale Horror Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Your Mind Posts: 2,118	I have: Django Texas Adios Good Bad Ugly Once Upon An Time In The West Keoma Four and the Apocolyse Bullet For The General Navajo Joe Compernos Death Rides A Horse The Great Silence And, they are all GREAT. __________________ Peace Out My Dvd CollectioN Top 6 Directors Of All Time (No Order) - 1. Quentin Tarantino (America) 2. Dario Argento (Italy) 3. Takashi Miike (Japan) 4. Ingmar Bergman (Sweden) 5. Akira Kurosawa (Japan) 6. Martin Scorsese (America) Last edited by DeathDealer; 07-03-2005 at 11:36 PM.

07-03-2005, 10:06 PM	#8
BloodMan Kill Time B4 It Kills You Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,432	It looks good, Fantoma did a good job for that old film. (widescreen is like 1.66:1 I think) That is probably one of the best westerns I have ever seen actually. Different too... __________________ We Are Never Very Far From Those We Hate, For This Very Reason, We Shall Never Be Truly Close To Those We Love If I Don't Have The Right To Torture You, Why Then Do You Have The Right To Torture Me By Taking Away The Pleasure That I Could Get From Torturing You? Remember, one cannot make footprints in the sands of time by sitting on their butt, and who wants to leave butt prints in the sands of time?

07-03-2005, 11:09 PM	#11
Criswell HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Outside your Bedroom Window. Posts: 1,234	Trinity is still my name............lame silly slapstick. __________________ Torture...Torture...It pleasures me...

07-03-2005, 11:37 PM	#12
DeathDealer I Inhale Horror Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Your Mind Posts: 2,118	Crustal Plumage, how do you think I got those some of those westerns? I bought the once upon time in italy collection!!!!! __________________ Peace Out My Dvd CollectioN Top 6 Directors Of All Time (No Order) - 1. Quentin Tarantino (America) 2. Dario Argento (Italy) 3. Takashi Miike (Japan) 4. Ingmar Bergman (Sweden) 5. Akira Kurosawa (Japan) 6. Martin Scorsese (America)

06-29-2005, 09:15 PM	#3
allmessedup It's beer time. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: House on the Park of the Edge Posts: 1,985	I haven't seen them myself, but a lot of people seem to dislike all the various DJANGO sequels--the first film and the last one are the only good ones, and also the only ones to star Franco Nero. I think a lot of the sequels were other films that were retitled to capitalize on the success of DJANGO.

07-03-2005, 09:17 PM	#5
Jimbo The Bloodstained Shadow Join Date: May 2003 Location: Castle of Blood Posts: 1,143	Can you list what you have? That will help me at least give you some suggestions as to what is good.

07-03-2005, 11:38 PM	#13
DeathDealer I Inhale Horror Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Your Mind Posts: 2,118	Do you think there will be any features on the death rides a horse dvd? __________________ Peace Out My Dvd CollectioN Top 6 Directors Of All Time (No Order) - 1. Quentin Tarantino (America) 2. Dario Argento (Italy) 3. Takashi Miike (Japan) 4. Ingmar Bergman (Sweden) 5. Akira Kurosawa (Japan) 6. Martin Scorsese (America)

07-04-2005, 04:30 AM	#14
BloodMan Kill Time B4 It Kills You Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,432	It would be nice if there were... I hope so. I already have the CD soundtrack, but it would be a nice addition anyway if they released it with the soundtrack etc... Such a good soundtrack. Good movie too. __________________ We Are Never Very Far From Those We Hate, For This Very Reason, We Shall Never Be Truly Close To Those We Love If I Don't Have The Right To Torture You, Why Then Do You Have The Right To Torture Me By Taking Away The Pleasure That I Could Get From Torturing You? Remember, one cannot make footprints in the sands of time by sitting on their butt, and who wants to leave butt prints in the sands of time?

07-04-2005, 07:54 AM	#15
Erick H. HackMaster Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,437	Just curious,anybody out there have FIVE MAN ARMY on dvd(not actually directed by an Italian,but scripted by Dario Argento) ? I'd heard of a recent dvd release and was wondering about the quality.

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