Friday the 13th: A New Beginning

11-09-2002, 01:38 AM

I've only ever seen the Pan-and-Scan version on VHS, and am considering buying a copy of the DVD. I have just one question:

There's a scene involving a gorgeous redhead who's impaled from under the top bunk of the bunk-bed she's decided to nap on. Unfortunately, we don't see the knife come up through her chest like we did with what's-her-name from Friday the 13th: Part 3. Does the widescreen show enough of the scene that we see the knife in Part 5?

Thanks.

rxfiend · 11-09-2002, 01:56 AM

if i'm not mistaken, the movie was filmed open matte, thus meaning black bars were placed on the full frame for the widescreen (you actually see more on the VHS).

11-09-2002, 02:29 AM

I think this, like a lot of F13 death scenes, was trimmed by the MPAA. I don't think you'll see a knife go through her chest regardless of whether it's widescreen or not.

The good ol' imdb has a great list of the cuts made:
http://us.imdb.com/AlternateVersions?0089173

I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but there is a rumour going around that the (legit) F13 HK VCDs contain uncut, or at least less-cut versions of the films. The VCD of the original film is put out by Warner and generally considered to be fully uncut, the others are done by Paramount which would lead me to beleive they'd be the same old cut versions, but one person whose info is usually reliable says they contain "more gore than I've seen before".

Honestly, I don't hold out too much hope for parts 2 onwards, but I'm thinking of buying the VCD of Part 5 anyway in the not too distant future. Just out of curiosity.

11-09-2002, 03:08 AM

From what I just read of that link you referred me to, I would love to get my hands on that VCD myself.

As far as I'm concerned, every movie in this franchise, after part 2, is nothing more than a showcase of how many different ways the FX department can come up with to kill off a bunch of stupid teens. In fact, immediately after watching part 2 after it's release on VHS, I conclude that the only reason I would ever want to see another entry into would be to watch all of the wonderfully creative deaths.

It irritates me to know end that the powers that be could be so arrogant as to argue that the movies themselves have enough of a plot that there's no need to "offend" audiences with all the violence. That's the whole point of a slasher flick. There is no plot, just violence.

Grrr...

I hate this... now I feel a moral imperitive to try and locate the VCD, if it exists.

EDIT: I just found this while doing a Google search for "Friday the 13th VCD":

http://www.blockbuster.com.hk/Main/m...ils.php?id=960

Now, I'm curious to know how uncut it is.

rxfiend · 11-09-2002, 04:22 AM

i have the (original) Friday the 13th VCD (which you can get for $10 at pokerindustries.com) and it is uncut. it only restores about 10 seconds to the film, but the extended Kevin Bacon death makes it worth it! i believe there are 3 other scenes that are extended.

11-09-2002, 07:05 AM

It appears there is truth to the rumors. I found this while doing a Google search for the phrase, "Robin's machete scene":

http://www.voorheeslair.dreamwater.net/cuts5.html

Fistfuck · 11-09-2002, 08:57 AM

I think I maybe the only one in the world, but I enjoyed F13 5. I mean why not, it has tons of great deaths, tons of nudity, and is probably the most "80s" of all the F13s.

11-09-2002, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyghtfall
Now, I'm curious to know how uncut it is.

I'm going to get it with my next DVDShelf order, so I'll let you know how it is then if you like. Though, that probably won't be for a few weeks (since their shipping is expensive, I prefer to order a lot of things at once).

It's been a while since I've seen Part 5, but if it really is uncut I suppose it'd be very noticeable. And at least with that link you provided I've got some pics to go on.

KillerCannabis · 11-09-2002, 09:57 AM

I dont like F13th part 5 and theres only one reason why.... its not Jason. Sure, it may have great death scenes, a high body count and a great 80's feel, but I feel cheated the whole time knowing its not Jason behind the mask but some backwoods yokel.

Agent Z · 11-09-2002, 01:14 PM

Quote:

but I feel cheated the whole time knowing its not Jason behind the mask but some backwoods yokel.

hmmmm.........................I thought the "backwoods yokel" was the idiot on the motor scooter......

........Roy the paramedic didn't have that country bumpkin feel to his character......but your point in general is still taken, nonetheless......

Fistfuck · 11-11-2002, 01:57 AM

But Jason is barely in F13 and JGTH, and those are two of the best F13s.

mcchrist · 11-11-2002, 09:00 AM

Quote:

But Jason is barely in F13 and JGTH, and those are two of the best F13s.

Indeed. I mean, come on, its a guy in a mask killing people. Whether its Jason or not, I don't really give a crap, hell it could Madman Marz or George Hamilton for all I care.

11-11-2002, 12:59 PM

I'd heard that the part 5 DVD had a bit more gore than the original release, but I can't confirm it.

What the hell...

Favorite F13 films:

1 & Final Chapter (tie)
2
3
7
6
5
8 & 9 (tie)
X

rxfiend · 11-11-2002, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McBride_01
I'd heard that the part 5 DVD had a bit more gore than the original release, but I can't confirm it.

there's not.

11-13-2002, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcchrist
hell it could Madman Marz or George Hamilton for all I care.

I like Part 5, but frankly, if it were George Hamilton, it would make for a more interesting ending.

11-09-2002, 01:38 AM	#1
Nyghtfall Guest Posts: n/a	Friday the 13th: A New Beginning I've only ever seen the Pan-and-Scan version on VHS, and am considering buying a copy of the DVD. I have just one question: There's a scene involving a gorgeous redhead who's impaled from under the top bunk of the bunk-bed she's decided to nap on. Unfortunately, we don't see the knife come up through her chest like we did with what's-her-name from Friday the 13th: Part 3. Does the widescreen show enough of the scene that we see the knife in Part 5? Thanks.

11-09-2002, 01:56 AM	#2
rxfiend Joe Six-Pack Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern IN Posts: 4,060	if i'm not mistaken, the movie was filmed open matte, thus meaning black bars were placed on the full frame for the widescreen (you actually see more on the VHS). __________________ My web domain * Night Screams BLOG

11-09-2002, 03:08 AM	#4
Nyghtfall Guest Posts: n/a	From what I just read of that link you referred me to, I would love to get my hands on that VCD myself. As far as I'm concerned, every movie in this franchise, after part 2, is nothing more than a showcase of how many different ways the FX department can come up with to kill off a bunch of stupid teens. In fact, immediately after watching part 2 after it's release on VHS, I conclude that the only reason I would ever want to see another entry into would be to watch all of the wonderfully creative deaths. It irritates me to know end that the powers that be could be so arrogant as to argue that the movies themselves have enough of a plot that there's no need to "offend" audiences with all the violence. That's the whole point of a slasher flick. There is no plot, just violence. Grrr... I hate this... now I feel a moral imperitive to try and locate the VCD, if it exists. EDIT: I just found this while doing a Google search for "Friday the 13th VCD": http://www.blockbuster.com.hk/Main/m...ils.php?id=960 Now, I'm curious to know how uncut it is. Last edited by Nyghtfall; 11-09-2002 at 03:21 AM.

11-09-2002, 04:22 AM	#5
rxfiend Joe Six-Pack Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern IN Posts: 4,060	i have the (original) Friday the 13th VCD (which you can get for $10 at pokerindustries.com) and it is uncut. it only restores about 10 seconds to the film, but the extended Kevin Bacon death makes it worth it! i believe there are 3 other scenes that are extended. __________________ My web domain * Night Screams BLOG

11-09-2002, 07:05 AM	#6
Nyghtfall Guest Posts: n/a	It appears there is truth to the rumors. I found this while doing a Google search for the phrase, "Robin's machete scene": http://www.voorheeslair.dreamwater.net/cuts5.html Last edited by Nyghtfall; 11-09-2002 at 07:31 AM.

11-09-2002, 02:29 AM	#3
Bods Guest Posts: n/a	I think this, like a lot of F13 death scenes, was trimmed by the MPAA. I don't think you'll see a knife go through her chest regardless of whether it's widescreen or not. The good ol' imdb has a great list of the cuts made: http://us.imdb.com/AlternateVersions?0089173 I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but there is a rumour going around that the (legit) F13 HK VCDs contain uncut, or at least less-cut versions of the films. The VCD of the original film is put out by Warner and generally considered to be fully uncut, the others are done by Paramount which would lead me to beleive they'd be the same old cut versions, but one person whose info is usually reliable says they contain "more gore than I've seen before". Honestly, I don't hold out too much hope for parts 2 onwards, but I'm thinking of buying the VCD of Part 5 anyway in the not too distant future. Just out of curiosity.

11-09-2002, 08:57 AM	#7
Fistfuck Drama Queen Die-fanatic Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,753	I think I maybe the only one in the world, but I enjoyed F13 5. I mean why not, it has tons of great deaths, tons of nudity, and is probably the most "80s" of all the F13s. __________________ The only reason you hate vanilla is because your mother once shoved a **** up her **** and life is now like this, etc...* -Baggio

11-09-2002, 09:57 AM	#9
KillerCannabis Slow, Deep & Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: So Cal Posts: 5,606	I dont like F13th part 5 and theres only one reason why.... its not Jason. Sure, it may have great death scenes, a high body count and a great 80's feel, but I feel cheated the whole time knowing its not Jason behind the mask but some backwoods yokel.

11-11-2002, 01:57 AM	#11
Fistfuck Drama Queen Die-fanatic Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,753	But Jason is barely in F13 and JGTH, and those are two of the best F13s. __________________ The only reason you hate vanilla is because your mother once shoved a **** up her **** and life is now like this, etc...* -Baggio

11-11-2002, 12:59 PM	#13
McBride_01 Guest Posts: n/a	I'd heard that the part 5 DVD had a bit more gore than the original release, but I can't confirm it. What the hell... Favorite F13 films: 1 & Final Chapter (tie) 2 3 7 6 5 8 & 9 (tie) X

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