Argento's Sleepless?

DefJeff · 11-14-2002, 06:55 AM

ive never seen this movie and i really want tooooooooo

but ive been holding off on the disc thats out now

anyone know if there is any chance of us seeing a better Region 1 NTSC version of this disc or should i just go out and get the Artisan one ?

11-14-2002, 06:57 AM

I highly doubt there'll be a better US disc in a long time. I don't imagine Artisan would let a company like AB put their own version out.

DefJeff · 11-14-2002, 07:08 AM

thats pretty much what i was thinking too... i just needed to hear someone else say it

JW77 · 11-14-2002, 08:00 AM

I'd really like to know what Artisan was thinking. Pan and scan an Argento film?

I mean, why? Isn't the primary target audience for Argento movies pretty much the film-geeks who demand OAR? Do they think the only people who would be interested in the movie are drones who wander into the video store looking for something else?

DefJeff · 11-14-2002, 08:21 AM

yea man, you basically took the words right outta my mouth

11-14-2002, 10:08 AM

I think they were thinking, "this is another horror film that most people won't buy. we'll put it out cheap as possible, sell it to blockbuster, and concentrate on the important pictures, that may actually make us some real money."

hell ya! · 11-14-2002, 01:36 PM

Just get the disc now, I can't believe i am going to say this but watching it in P&S was not all that bad. Ya it sucks but i was still able to enjoy the movie(great movie btw). At least its uncut.

11-14-2002, 02:02 PM

The Medusa version of NonHoSonno rules. AWESOME picture quality, gorgeous! I loved the movie, it definately washed the bad taste on Phantom of the Opera out of my mouth!

Shannafey · 11-14-2002, 02:45 PM

Def, Most Blockbusters have the Artisan disc or tape for rental if you want to check it out.

11-14-2002, 05:00 PM

I picked up the 2-DVD UK version as soon as it was released! it was the best £14.99 I ever spent!

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Disc 1: Theatrical trailer, Making of Sleepless, Dario Argento biography and filmography, Production stills gallery.

Disc 2: 'An Eye For Horror' documentary (60 mins). Features clips from various Argento films and includes interviews with Dario, John Carpenter, George Romero, Alice Cooper, Keith Emerson, Daria Nicolodi, Asia Argento, Lamberto Bava, and others, Stills gallery.

another reason to be 'all region - ntsc/pal' capable

AND, I just read this at the www.bbc.co.uk website:

"...It is also worth noting that unlike the cut German and US discs, the UK version is completely uncut."

strange... the UK version is listed as being 117min. and so is the U.S. version.
isn't a PAL DVD that is the SAME LENGTH as a NTSC DVD supposed to be shorter in running time because of the conversion rate difference? so does this mean that even though the running times of both PAL & NTSC discs are the same, the PAL is actually LONGER, therefore confirming the UNCUT claim?

11-14-2002, 07:11 PM

Quote:

strange... the UK version is listed as being 117min. and so is the U.S. version.
isn't a PAL DVD that is the SAME LENGTH as a NTSC DVD supposed to be shorter in running time because of the conversion rate difference? so does this mean that even though the running times of both PAL & NTSC discs are the same, the PAL is actually LONGER, therefore confirming the UNCUT claim?

Correct.

There's also an uncut Italian DVD where the Italian dubbing replaces the poor English dubbing (but you lose Von Sydow's performance). I think it has a DTS soundtrack too.

Paff · 11-14-2002, 07:31 PM

Also, I believe the VHS copy from Artisan is heavily cut. I've seen the Artisan DVD, and it looks intact (minus the horrible pan-and-scan of course). I could be wrong about that, but the Artisan DVD contains the extremely graphic violence, so it's hard to imagine that there are even more violent scenes that have been removed. You never know though...

I'd buy that UK version in a second, but the PAL conversion on my player sucks big time. I may still buy it anyway, just to have a good copy for when I eventually get a better player.

But if you haven't seen Sleepless yet, you should get a copy one way or another. Best version are the imports naturally, if you can convert PAL properly. While the Artisan release should be a last resort, it's better than not seeing the film at all.

11-14-2002, 10:34 PM

Artisan DVD is uncut, but the VHS is snipped to shreds. I have the disc, and it's not THAT bad. I mean it's like a good VHS.

Plus that EYE FOR HORROR documentary sucks. I payed $15 for the Image disc and was quite disappointed.

zombi3 · 11-14-2002, 10:42 PM

I thought Eye For Horror was pretty cool. It had some decent interviews. I was surprised to see an interview with my old film teacher Maitland McDonagh on that disc.

dwatts · 11-14-2002, 10:52 PM

When in the US I boycotted the Artisan disc. I wiated until I could get the UK MIA disc - which is PAL, but region 0 (despite what the box art says).

Talking about bad dubbing on an italian film is a bit like contemplating why grass is green.

11-14-2002, 06:55 AM	#1
DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hamden, CT Posts: 3,112	Argento's Sleepless? ive never seen this movie and i really want tooooooooo but ive been holding off on the disc thats out now anyone know if there is any chance of us seeing a better Region 1 NTSC version of this disc or should i just go out and get the Artisan one ? __________________ Thrash explains TWIN PEAKS!: <thrashard76> its the ultimate tribute to Italian cinema, no real plot but fun just the same My Growing DVD Collection

11-14-2002, 07:08 AM	#3
DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hamden, CT Posts: 3,112	thats pretty much what i was thinking too... i just needed to hear someone else say it __________________ Thrash explains TWIN PEAKS!: <thrashard76> its the ultimate tribute to Italian cinema, no real plot but fun just the same My Growing DVD Collection

11-14-2002, 08:00 AM	#4
JW77 Support Halliburton Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Korova Milk Bar Posts: 2,369	I'd really like to know what Artisan was thinking. Pan and scan an Argento film? I mean, why? Isn't the primary target audience for Argento movies pretty much the film-geeks who demand OAR? Do they think the only people who would be interested in the movie are drones who wander into the video store looking for something else? __________________ "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others." -- Harry J. Anslinger, first commissioner of the United States Bureau of Narcotics

11-14-2002, 08:21 AM	#5
DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hamden, CT Posts: 3,112	yea man, you basically took the words right outta my mouth __________________ Thrash explains TWIN PEAKS!: <thrashard76> its the ultimate tribute to Italian cinema, no real plot but fun just the same My Growing DVD Collection

11-14-2002, 01:36 PM	#7
hell ya! ~Go ahead, make my day~ Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ontario, CANADA Posts: 3,568	Just get the disc now, I can't believe i am going to say this but watching it in P&S was not all that bad. Ya it sucks but i was still able to enjoy the movie(great movie btw). At least its uncut. __________________ ~MY DVD COLLECTION~ "Devil on the left An angel on the right There's no mistake Who I'll be with tonight" DANZIG

11-14-2002, 06:57 AM	#2
Werner Von Wallenrod Guest Posts: n/a	I highly doubt there'll be a better US disc in a long time. I don't imagine Artisan would let a company like AB put their own version out.

11-14-2002, 10:08 AM	#6
Werner Von Wallenrod Guest Posts: n/a	I think they were thinking, "this is another horror film that most people won't buy. we'll put it out cheap as possible, sell it to blockbuster, and concentrate on the important pictures, that may actually make us some real money."

11-14-2002, 02:02 PM	#8
nlogax Guest Posts: n/a	The Medusa version of NonHoSonno rules. AWESOME picture quality, gorgeous! I loved the movie, it definately washed the bad taste on Phantom of the Opera out of my mouth!

11-14-2002, 02:45 PM	#9
Shannafey Don't Monkey With Me! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: South Florida, But Far from the Hell that is Miami Posts: 6,370	Def, Most Blockbusters have the Artisan disc or tape for rental if you want to check it out.

11-14-2002, 05:00 PM	#10
bloodthirsty Guest Posts: n/a	I picked up the 2-DVD UK version as soon as it was released! it was the best £14.99 I ever spent! <IMG SRC="http://imagehosting.auctiondiner.com/image.php3?imgID=1504661"> Disc 1: Theatrical trailer, Making of Sleepless, Dario Argento biography and filmography, Production stills gallery. Disc 2: 'An Eye For Horror' documentary (60 mins). Features clips from various Argento films and includes interviews with Dario, John Carpenter, George Romero, Alice Cooper, Keith Emerson, Daria Nicolodi, Asia Argento, Lamberto Bava, and others, Stills gallery. another reason to be 'all region - ntsc/pal' capable AND, I just read this at the www.bbc.co.uk website: "...It is also worth noting that unlike the cut German and US discs, the UK version is completely uncut." strange... the UK version is listed as being 117min. and so is the U.S. version. isn't a PAL DVD that is the SAME LENGTH as a NTSC DVD supposed to be shorter in running time because of the conversion rate difference? so does this mean that even though the running times of both PAL & NTSC discs are the same, the PAL is actually LONGER, therefore confirming the UNCUT claim? Last edited by bloodthirsty; 11-14-2002 at 05:18 PM.

11-14-2002, 07:31 PM	#12
Paff Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,536	Also, I believe the VHS copy from Artisan is heavily cut. I've seen the Artisan DVD, and it looks intact (minus the horrible pan-and-scan of course). I could be wrong about that, but the Artisan DVD contains the extremely graphic violence, so it's hard to imagine that there are even more violent scenes that have been removed. You never know though... I'd buy that UK version in a second, but the PAL conversion on my player sucks big time. I may still buy it anyway, just to have a good copy for when I eventually get a better player. But if you haven't seen Sleepless yet, you should get a copy one way or another. Best version are the imports naturally, if you can convert PAL properly. While the Artisan release should be a last resort, it's better than not seeing the film at all. __________________ CINEMA PAFF - Your BB-Movie Showcase * * - The extra B is for BYOBB Paff's Laserdiscs

11-14-2002, 10:34 PM	#13
Andrew Guest Posts: n/a	Artisan DVD is uncut, but the VHS is snipped to shreds. I have the disc, and it's not THAT bad. I mean it's like a good VHS. Plus that EYE FOR HORROR documentary sucks. I payed $15 for the Image disc and was quite disappointed.

11-14-2002, 10:42 PM	#14
zombi3 Pure Evil Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Shit Creek Posts: 2,216	I thought Eye For Horror was pretty cool. It had some decent interviews. I was surprised to see an interview with my old film teacher Maitland McDonagh on that disc. __________________ "Two great perils endanger the well-being of our community - the cave dwellers hungering for our flesh and city dwellers out to enslave us."

11-14-2002, 10:52 PM	#15
dwatts HackMaster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crashed Posts: 16,580	When in the US I boycotted the Artisan disc. I wiated until I could get the UK MIA disc - which is PAL, but region 0 (despite what the box art says). Talking about bad dubbing on an italian film is a bit like contemplating why grass is green.

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